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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: DC Grounding fault

Thomas Peacock
 

Not sure what type of AIS you have; however, my Raymarine AIS manual makes a big deal about NOT having your laptop connected to AC if you are running USB from your laptop to AIS. 


On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:22 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi  Bill,

Yes I have the AIS connected to the laptop via a Serial - USB cable. It would seem that the Serial-USB converter uses the cable shield as the -ve return, so unplugging either the charger or the AIS USB cable, the problem goes away.
I am going to install a small isolated power supply for the laptop, hopefully that will solve the issue permanently.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: DC Grounding fault

Alan Leslie
 

Hi  Bill,
Yes I have the AIS connected to the laptop via a Serial - USB cable. It would seem that the Serial-USB converter uses the cable shield as the -ve return, so unplugging either the charger or the AIS USB cable, the problem goes away.
I am going to install a small isolated power supply for the laptop, hopefully that will solve the issue permanently.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] ICW bridge clearance and depth report

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi John,

even from NZ that was interesting. In 2009 we sailed up the East Coast US from Florida to Maine so we considered and rejected the inland waterway as being to shallow and too low. Enjoyed reading of your experience.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 15 August 2017 at 04:24 "john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi All,

  I note that occasionally there is interest in visiting the inland waters of the US east coast, but there is concern over height and depth issues.   We wanted to visit the Pamlico Sound in North Carolina.  We initially looked at the Okracoke inlet however after calling the USCG station at Hatteras for a consult, we were warned that the reported depths are not accurate and are in fact much shallower.  Their patrol boat with a 4 ft draft touches bottom routinely. More phone calls for local knowledge reported we should be able to enter at Morehead City so that is where we tried.    I now report that a stock Super Maramu can enter the Pamlico Sound via Morehead City and the Core Creek section of the Intra-Coastal Waterway (ICW), narrative and details below.  

 

Bridge height was the only part of the entrance that required special planning.  Depth even at low tide was not a problem at any part of the trip.

 

We took the route through the 65ft fixed Morehead City Bridge/Newport River, not the Gallant Channel.  The new fixed 65ft Gallant Channel Bridge is under construction with a lot of scaffolding and barges and the channel is shallower and trickier to navigate than the main Newport River channel.

 

We arrived on Saturday, Aug 12, 2017 and anchored just inside the harbor to wait for the tide.  There is a spot to anchor just south of the main channel between red 22 and green 23 buoys.   There is a beach along the channel to picnic on.

We waited for the afternoon low tide which was to be 0.26 ft, and then approached the bridge.  That day there were a lot of thunderstorms and a constant 20 knot wind blowing right up the channel to the bridge.  The clearance marker on the starboard side of the adjacent railroad bridge was covered with growth making it difficult to see from a distance so we had to motor pretty much right up to it to see it.  We could not see water lower than the 66 ft mark.  According to local knowledge there should have been over 68 ft of clearance. With mast at 65.75ft and the wind pushing us into the bridge we decided to wait for the morning low tide and hope for more benign conditions.

 

Next morning, Sunday, August 13, 2017 , weather was perfect, light wind and a slightly lower tide predicted (0.01ft).  This time we could see water at the 67 ft mark barely showing.  We approched very slow and stopped about a foot from the bridge.  The Admiral eyeballed the mast with binoculars and reported it looked good, so we proceeded slowly.  The VHF whip antenna (2-3ft higher than masthead) touched each girder, but being flexible, just bent under.  It looked like we had a foot of clearance between the bridge and the instruments at the mast head. 

 

We then proceeded up the ICW at 6.2 kts to the Core Creek Bridge , also a 65 ft fixed span.  Maintaining 6.2 kts you will reach the Core Creek bridge at its lowest tide time. If you miss it there is space to anchor and wait off to the starboard side of the channel.

 

The height boards at Core Creek were easier to read and showed in excess of 67 ft.  We proceeded slowly as before.  The VHF antenna barely touched.  We then continued at 6.5 knots up Core Creek/Adams River to the Pamlico Sound . 

 

One caution is the power boaters who have zero respect for a sailboat passing under a bridge.  At both bridges we had large power boats moving fast try to run under the bridge at the same time with us.  The wake from these boats can erase your one ft of clearance. Additionally, half of the boaters did not have a radio turned on.

 

Second note is the tides can be affected by wind and rain events.  Watch the height boards before passing under the bridges, don’t assume the low tide will be sufficient.  67 ft showing on the boards was good for us.

 

At the moment we are tied up at a public marina in Washington , North Carolina , at the head of the Pamlico River .  As we docked a friendly Dutchman recognized the finest cruising boat ever made and came over to introduce himself.  He noted that Annie was the first Amel he has ever seen this far inland in America .   

 

Washington , NC , seems (after one night) like a very nice quiet town with a brand new waterfront municipal marina.  They have 50amp/240v service at the dock along with usual amenities. There is a place to anchor out, and a public dinghy dock. I have been told that the depth of the anchorage is 14 ft.  So far there have been no bugs to speak of.  There are restaurants along the waterfront and a West Marine store three blocks away.   Washington appears to be one of those small American towns that time forgot.  It is presently in a revitalization phase becoming a vacation spot for the Raleigh/Rocky Mount crowd.  While in the Pamlico we plan to check out Oriental, the “sailing capital” of North Carolina and also New Bern, supposedly a trendy an up and coming city both located on the Pamlico Sound. 

 

 

Summary:

 

SM #37, with original B&G instrument package at mast head and a 6 inch tall tricolor LED mounted on top of mast head.  VHF antenna also mounted on top of mast head.  Water tank at 800L and fuel tank full.  Emek solar arch mounted at stern.  Vessel was not carrying a dinghy or outboard for this passage.

 

Morehead City Bridge :  Predicted tide 0.01 ft, 67 ft barely showing on height board.

 

Core Creek Bridge : predicted tide 0.01 ft, in excess of 67 ft showing on the height board.

 

Pamlico River Channel:  followed the markers and we had 2-3 meters below keel  most of the way with a short stretch of 1 meter.

 

 

Depth under keel was sufficient at dead low tide.  Depth indicator read <1 meter for a few short stretches after the Morehead City bridge, but was 1 meter or greater through rest of  canal passage.  We never touched bottom.  Note the bottom here is mud/sand and fairly soft, so if one did touch it is not likely to damage a Super Maramu.



Regards,  John 


John Clark

SV Annie, SM 37

cruising Pamlico Sound USA


 


 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] winter liveaboard?

eric freedman
 

Hi Ryan,

You might ask the previous owner Frank, as to what he did to store the boat as It was here last winter.

The heating on the boat will not be sufficient to keep you warm this winter. It did not keep me warm in the late fall here in Huntington. I installed an Espar Heater, however I had the optional fresh air system and ducting installed when I had Kimberlite constructed.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 3:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] winter liveaboard?

 

 

Hi all,

I pains me to be thinking about winter already, but I need to plan ahead.  I'm going to be spending this winter in Boston, MA, USA aboard my new-to-me Super Maramu.  Does anyone have any tips for living aboard a SM in a cold climate?  I'm no stranger to living aboard in this climate in general, as I've spent the last 7 winters here aboard my old Gulfstar 37.  I'm looking for SM-specific tips and tricks, if anyone has any.

 

The weather here goes well below freezing at times in the winter; I've seen as low as -10F/-23C.  We also get lots of snow.  Despite this, the water rarely freezes and bubblers are not typically used.  It is standard practice here to shrinkwrap the boats in clear plastic, which keeps a lot of heat in and makes for a great greenhouse effect on a sunny day, not to mention keeping the snow off the boat.

 

Is the built-in electric heat on the SM sufficient for this climate, or will I have to install supplementary heating like I had on my old boat?  On that boat, I had an Espar forced-air diesel heater which did a great job.  I'd rather not have to install such a thing on my SM for several reasons, such as cost, not wanting to mess with the Amel design, and hoping to sail south in a year or two so I won't get the ROI.  If you did install extra heating, what type of system did you use?  Would you recommend it?

 

Is the SM fairly well insulated?  Has anyone had trouble with condensation?  I feel like the cored deck and cloth-lined lockers will offer pretty good insulation, but I'm also concerned about that cloth getting wet from condensation and molding.  I'm also surprised/amazed that all of the lockers have solid doors; most boats have ventilated lockers to prevent condensation even in summer.  But clearly Amel has solved this problem, so perhaps it will work in winter too.

 

Thanks,

Ryan

SM 233 Iteration (ex Monarae)

Boston, MA, USA

winter liveaboard?

Ryan Meador
 

Hi all,
I pains me to be thinking about winter already, but I need to plan ahead.  I'm going to be spending this winter in Boston, MA, USA aboard my new-to-me Super Maramu.  Does anyone have any tips for living aboard a SM in a cold climate?  I'm no stranger to living aboard in this climate in general, as I've spent the last 7 winters here aboard my old Gulfstar 37.  I'm looking for SM-specific tips and tricks, if anyone has any.

The weather here goes well below freezing at times in the winter; I've seen as low as -10F/-23C.  We also get lots of snow.  Despite this, the water rarely freezes and bubblers are not typically used.  It is standard practice here to shrinkwrap the boats in clear plastic, which keeps a lot of heat in and makes for a great greenhouse effect on a sunny day, not to mention keeping the snow off the boat.

Is the built-in electric heat on the SM sufficient for this climate, or will I have to install supplementary heating like I had on my old boat?  On that boat, I had an Espar forced-air diesel heater which did a great job.  I'd rather not have to install such a thing on my SM for several reasons, such as cost, not wanting to mess with the Amel design, and hoping to sail south in a year or two so I won't get the ROI.  If you did install extra heating, what type of system did you use?  Would you recommend it?

Is the SM fairly well insulated?  Has anyone had trouble with condensation?  I feel like the cored deck and cloth-lined lockers will offer pretty good insulation, but I'm also concerned about that cloth getting wet from condensation and molding.  I'm also surprised/amazed that all of the lockers have solid doors; most boats have ventilated lockers to prevent condensation even in summer.  But clearly Amel has solved this problem, so perhaps it will work in winter too.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration (ex Monarae)
Boston, MA, USA

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] ICW bridge clearance and depth report

Stephen Davis
 

Great report John! You are a braver man than I, but enjoy your inland expedition. 

Cheers,
Steve
Aloha SM72
Aruba

On Aug 14, 2017, at 11:24, john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi All,

  I note that occasionally there is interest in visiting the inland waters of the US east coast, but there is concern over height and depth issues.   We wanted to visit the Pamlico Sound in North Carolina.  We initially looked at the Okracoke inlet however after calling the USCG station at Hatteras for a consult, we were warned that the reported depths are not accurate and are in fact much shallower.  Their patrol boat with a 4 ft draft touches bottom routinely. More phone calls for local knowledge reported we should be able to enter at Morehead City so that is where we tried.    I now report that a stock Super Maramu can enter the Pamlico Sound via Morehead City and the Core Creek section of the Intra-Coastal Waterway (ICW), narrative and details below.  

 

Bridge height was the only part of the entrance that required special planning.  Depth even at low tide was not a problem at any part of the trip.

 

We took the route through the 65ft fixed Morehead City Bridge/Newport River, not the Gallant Channel.  The new fixed 65ft Gallant Channel Bridge is under construction with a lot of scaffolding and barges and the channel is shallower and trickier to navigate than the main Newport River channel.

 

We arrived on Saturday, Aug 12, 2017 and anchored just inside the harbor to wait for the tide.  There is a spot to anchor just south of the main channel between red 22 and green 23 buoys.   There is a beach along the channel to picnic on.

We waited for the afternoon low tide which was to be 0.26 ft, and then approached the bridge.  That day there were a lot of thunderstorms and a constant 20 knot wind blowing right up the channel to the bridge.  The clearance marker on the starboard side of the adjacent railroad bridge was covered with growth making it difficult to see from a distance so we had to motor pretty much right up to it to see it.  We could not see water lower than the 66 ft mark.  According to local knowledge there should have been over 68 ft of clearance. With mast at 65.75ft and the wind pushing us into the bridge we decided to wait for the morning low tide and hope for more benign conditions.

 

Next morning, Sunday, August 13, 2017 , weather was perfect, light wind and a slightly lower tide predicted (0.01ft).  This time we could see water at the 67 ft mark barely showing.  We approched very slow and stopped about a foot from the bridge.  The Admiral eyeballed the mast with binoculars and reported it looked good, so we proceeded slowly.  The VHF whip antenna (2-3ft higher than masthead) touched each girder, but being flexible, just bent under.  It looked like we had a foot of clearance between the bridge and the instruments at the mast head. 

 

We then proceeded up the ICW at 6.2 kts to the Core Creek Bridge , also a 65 ft fixed span.  Maintaining 6.2 kts you will reach the Core Creek bridge at its lowest tide time. If you miss it there is space to anchor and wait off to the starboard side of the channel.

 

The height boards at Core Creek were easier to read and showed in excess of 67 ft.  We proceeded slowly as before.  The VHF antenna barely touched.  We then continued at 6.5 knots up Core Creek/Adams River to the Pamlico Sound . 

 

One caution is the power boaters who have zero respect for a sailboat passing under a bridge.  At both bridges we had large power boats moving fast try to run under the bridge at the same time with us.  The wake from these boats can erase your one ft of clearance. Additionally, half of the boaters did not have a radio turned on.

 

Second note is the tides can be affected by wind and rain events.  Watch the height boards before passing under the bridges, don’t assume the low tide will be sufficient.  67 ft showing on the boards was good for us.

 

At the moment we are tied up at a public marina in Washington , North Carolina , at the head of the Pamlico River .  As we docked a friendly Dutchman recognized the finest cruising boat ever made and came over to introduce himself.  He noted that Annie was the first Amel he has ever seen this far inland in America .   

 

Washington , NC , seems (after one night) like a very nice quiet town with a brand new waterfront municipal marina.  They have 50amp/240v service at the dock along with usual amenities. There is a place to anchor out, and a public dinghy dock. I have been told that the depth of the anchorage is 14 ft.  So far there have been no bugs to speak of.  There are restaurants along the waterfront and a West Marine store three blocks away.   Washington appears to be one of those small American towns that time forgot.  It is presently in a revitalization phase becoming a vacation spot for the Raleigh/Rocky Mount crowd.  While in the Pamlico we plan to check out Oriental, the “sailing capital” of North Carolina and also New Bern, supposedly a trendy an up and coming city both located on the Pamlico Sound. 

 

 

Summary:

 

SM #37, with original B&G instrument package at mast head and a 6 inch tall tricolor LED mounted on top of mast head.  VHF antenna also mounted on top of mast head.  Water tank at 800L and fuel tank full.  Emek solar arch mounted at stern.  Vessel was not carrying a dinghy or outboard for this passage.

 

Morehead City Bridge :  Predicted tide 0.01 ft, 67 ft barely showing on height board.

 

Core Creek Bridge : predicted tide 0.01 ft, in excess of 67 ft showing on the height board.

 

Pamlico River Channel:  followed the markers and we had 2-3 meters below keel  most of the way with a short stretch of 1 meter.

 

Depth under keel was sufficient at dead low tide.  Depth indicator read <1 meter for a few short stretches after the Morehead City bridge, but was 1 meter or greater through rest of  canal passage.  We never touched bottom.  Note the bottom here is mud/sand and fairly soft, so if one did touch it is not likely to damage a Super Maramu.



Regards,  John 


John Clark

SV Annie, SM 37

cruising Pamlico Sound USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique

John Clark
 

Hi Eric,
   I just had Caraibe rerig SM 37.  They were fast and efficient.  You might save some $$ on VAT by talking to Douglas Rapier at Douglas Yacht Services.  I obtained a VAT exemption certificate from him that covered all the work and purchases for my refit in Marin.

Regards,  John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Cruising Pamlico Sound

On Aug 14, 2017 2:39 PM, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Ben,

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:45 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique

 

 

Hi Eric,

This is rigger Amel recommends.  

 

Gaetan Rivet

Caraibe Greement

Email:  gaetan@...

Cell #:  596696415642

Le Marin MARTINIQUE 97290

 

------------

 

Amel Le Marin contact info:

 

Caraibes - Amel FR Amel

Jean Collin

 

Ben Driver

S/V La Bella Vita

SM #347


On Aug 13, 2017, at 10:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi,

I know it has been posted before but does someone have the Amel contact and the riggers contact info in Martinique?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique

eric freedman
 

Thanks Ben,

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:45 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique

 

 

Hi Eric,

This is rigger Amel recommends.  

 

Gaetan Rivet

Caraibe Greement

Email:  gaetan@...

Cell #:  596696415642

Le Marin MARTINIQUE 97290

 

------------

 

Amel Le Marin contact info:

 

Caraibes - Amel FR Amel

Jean Collin

Office:  +596 (0) 596 58 50 37

 

Ben Driver

S/V La Bella Vita

SM #347


On Aug 13, 2017, at 10:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

I know it has been posted before but does someone have the Amel contact and the riggers contact info in Martinique?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Re: ICW bridge clearance and depth report

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

John,

Great experience, and great to hear Pamlico Sound can be done.  Thanks for sharing.  We've done bits and pieces of the ICW.

We entered the Port Royal Sound from the Atlantic and turned S at the ICW, anchoring in the Sound itself and then for about five days on Skull Creek, right off the chanel.  Depth is not an issue in this segment.  We had a laser rangefinder and late one night we spent about one hour in the dinghy below the William Hilton Parkway bridge.  We decided it was a bridge too far... and part of the fear is what you mention, i.e., the risk of speeding boats bumping one into the bridge.

The anchorage at Skull Creek, in the low season, affords one excellent access to Hilton Head, and is good for kayaking, walking, biking and dinghying around, so it is a good break when transiting outside between Charleston SC and St Marys GA.

There are other short segments of the ICW we've done, including Fernandina FL to Cumberland Is. (GA), Fort Lauderdale to Boca Raton FL, the short but spectacular segment S to Portsmouth VA, the Chesapeake and Delaware canal, and the Cape Cod canal.

Cheers,

Peregrinus
SM2K #350
At anchor, Calcidia (Negroponte)

ICW bridge clearance and depth report

John Clark
 

Hi All,

  I note that occasionally there is interest in visiting the inland waters of the US east coast, but there is concern over height and depth issues.   We wanted to visit the Pamlico Sound in North Carolina.  We initially looked at the Okracoke inlet however after calling the USCG station at Hatteras for a consult, we were warned that the reported depths are not accurate and are in fact much shallower.  Their patrol boat with a 4 ft draft touches bottom routinely. More phone calls for local knowledge reported we should be able to enter at Morehead City so that is where we tried.    I now report that a stock Super Maramu can enter the Pamlico Sound via Morehead City and the Core Creek section of the Intra-Coastal Waterway (ICW), narrative and details below.  

 

Bridge height was the only part of the entrance that required special planning.  Depth even at low tide was not a problem at any part of the trip.

 

We took the route through the 65ft fixed Morehead City Bridge/Newport River, not the Gallant Channel.  The new fixed 65ft Gallant Channel Bridge is under construction with a lot of scaffolding and barges and the channel is shallower and trickier to navigate than the main Newport River channel.

 

We arrived on Saturday, Aug 12, 2017 and anchored just inside the harbor to wait for the tide.  There is a spot to anchor just south of the main channel between red 22 and green 23 buoys.   There is a beach along the channel to picnic on.

We waited for the afternoon low tide which was to be 0.26 ft, and then approached the bridge.  That day there were a lot of thunderstorms and a constant 20 knot wind blowing right up the channel to the bridge.  The clearance marker on the starboard side of the adjacent railroad bridge was covered with growth making it difficult to see from a distance so we had to motor pretty much right up to it to see it.  We could not see water lower than the 66 ft mark.  According to local knowledge there should have been over 68 ft of clearance. With mast at 65.75ft and the wind pushing us into the bridge we decided to wait for the morning low tide and hope for more benign conditions.

 

Next morning, Sunday, August 13, 2017 , weather was perfect, light wind and a slightly lower tide predicted (0.01ft).  This time we could see water at the 67 ft mark barely showing.  We approched very slow and stopped about a foot from the bridge.  The Admiral eyeballed the mast with binoculars and reported it looked good, so we proceeded slowly.  The VHF whip antenna (2-3ft higher than masthead) touched each girder, but being flexible, just bent under.  It looked like we had a foot of clearance between the bridge and the instruments at the mast head. 

 

We then proceeded up the ICW at 6.2 kts to the Core Creek Bridge , also a 65 ft fixed span.  Maintaining 6.2 kts you will reach the Core Creek bridge at its lowest tide time. If you miss it there is space to anchor and wait off to the starboard side of the channel.

 

The height boards at Core Creek were easier to read and showed in excess of 67 ft.  We proceeded slowly as before.  The VHF antenna barely touched.  We then continued at 6.5 knots up Core Creek/Adams River to the Pamlico Sound . 

 

One caution is the power boaters who have zero respect for a sailboat passing under a bridge.  At both bridges we had large power boats moving fast try to run under the bridge at the same time with us.  The wake from these boats can erase your one ft of clearance. Additionally, half of the boaters did not have a radio turned on.

 

Second note is the tides can be affected by wind and rain events.  Watch the height boards before passing under the bridges, don’t assume the low tide will be sufficient.  67 ft showing on the boards was good for us.

 

At the moment we are tied up at a public marina in Washington , North Carolina , at the head of the Pamlico River .  As we docked a friendly Dutchman recognized the finest cruising boat ever made and came over to introduce himself.  He noted that Annie was the first Amel he has ever seen this far inland in America .   

 

Washington , NC , seems (after one night) like a very nice quiet town with a brand new waterfront municipal marina.  They have 50amp/240v service at the dock along with usual amenities. There is a place to anchor out, and a public dinghy dock. I have been told that the depth of the anchorage is 14 ft.  So far there have been no bugs to speak of.  There are restaurants along the waterfront and a West Marine store three blocks away.   Washington appears to be one of those small American towns that time forgot.  It is presently in a revitalization phase becoming a vacation spot for the Raleigh/Rocky Mount crowd.  While in the Pamlico we plan to check out Oriental, the “sailing capital” of North Carolina and also New Bern, supposedly a trendy an up and coming city both located on the Pamlico Sound. 

 

 

Summary:

 

SM #37, with original B&G instrument package at mast head and a 6 inch tall tricolor LED mounted on top of mast head.  VHF antenna also mounted on top of mast head.  Water tank at 800L and fuel tank full.  Emek solar arch mounted at stern.  Vessel was not carrying a dinghy or outboard for this passage.

 

Morehead City Bridge :  Predicted tide 0.01 ft, 67 ft barely showing on height board.

 

Core Creek Bridge : predicted tide 0.01 ft, in excess of 67 ft showing on the height board.

 

Pamlico River Channel:  followed the markers and we had 2-3 meters below keel  most of the way with a short stretch of 1 meter.

 

Depth under keel was sufficient at dead low tide.  Depth indicator read <1 meter for a few short stretches after the Morehead City bridge, but was 1 meter or greater through rest of  canal passage.  We never touched bottom.  Note the bottom here is mud/sand and fairly soft, so if one did touch it is not likely to damage a Super Maramu.



Regards,  John 


John Clark

SV Annie, SM 37

cruising Pamlico Sound USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water membranes replacement

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Soraya , 
       I think I took both end pieces off . The metal pieces on the hp end can be removed by unscrewing the two screws and carefully using a screwdriver to lever the metal piece off . It's fits snugly into the end cap with an O ring 
Ian


On 14 Aug 2017, at 15:26, SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi again,

as I was looking to get the right jubilee clip, I wondered if the end caps can be removed on either side or only on the HP pipe side.

If so, do you remove the HP metal hose (shown on pic 5) or is it possible to fit the jubilee clip around it?

Thanks for your clarifications.
Soraya



On 8 August 2017 at 19:56, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Soraya and Thomas,


 There is an easy way to remove the end caps. Buy  the right sized jubilee clip and fit it around the end cap. Before tightening it, insert two ends of a short piece of webbing to make a loop.

 Now tighten the jubilee clip as tight as you can to trap the two ends of the webbing against the cap.

 Sit in the cockpit and put the loop over one of the cleats on the mizzen mast.  Hold the black tube and give a number of sharp tugs. The end cap will pop off. 


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece


From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 08 August 2017 13:25:46
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water membranes replacement
 
Soraya & Thomas,

When Bill Kinney wrote about the dry saltwater membranes, that was the first I heard about the existence of these. So, I cannot comment on any experience with them. I am not sure how long they have been available. When I last bought membranes, Air Water Ice did not have these. In fact, it was the owner of Air Water Ice that told me there was no way for me to buy spares and the necessity to keep the membranes wet until installed. But, things change and one person's limited experience does not mean that his experience is complete. 

I believe that if you can find your size priced between 160-185 euro ex-VAT, that will be about the best price. The best price for the 40 inch membrane for the 160 liter will be around 200 euro. 

The difficult part will be removing the end caps. If you can clamp the end caps in a vise and then twist and pull the tubes from the end caps, you will have no problems. If you try to remove the end caps in your cockpit without a vise, you will have difficulty. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Aug 8, 2017 04:17, "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Bill & Bill & all,

We had already downloaded Bill R's PDF guide shared earlier this year, but these additional clarifications are very welcome. Thank you!
 
We are already living aboard (so need membranes shipped), and they are to be installed immediately not for spares (so hopefully wet/dry will be less of an issue this time round).

We will report back to the group on this when sourcing and work has been done :), if useful to others in the region. Many suppliers seem to apply a significant premium so definitely something worth shopping around for, especially if you need 3 like on the DUO100 (we have seen prices ranging from 175 to 480 EUR for 1 membrane !..).

Also curious about how you establish when your membranes need replacing? We are assuming this is a matter of flow (L/h) and/or output TDS measurement. Anything else to consider? Have you generally found that membranes can be used close to their spec (#hours)?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience,

Soraya
& Thomas
-- 
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Port Cros, Côte d'azur, France

On 6 August 2017 at 16:03, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

Soraya & Thomas,

I see that Hutter gave you a source in the EU for membranes. Hint: According to Air Water Ice, Filmtec SW membranes have a shelf-life of 6 months. If you suspect that the supplier has had inventory this long, don't buy the membranes from that supplier.

The following information will probably be helpful:
  1. There is only ONE manufacturer of these SW membranes worldwide, so any membrane you buy is made by Filmtec.
  2. There is a special diagonal-cut O'ring that is shipped installed on the membranes from Filmtec. Be careful because this O'ring only allows insertion into the pressure tube in one direction. When you see it, it will be obvious. Also, be careful and aware when you remove the old membranes of the orientation of this special O'ring. Mark the tube and number each tube so that you do not make any mistakes. Additionally, there are a number of O'rings that you should replace when doing this job. The small Bobbin-Interconnects have O'rings and the End Caps have O rings. You should order these from dessalator.com to ensure the correct size.
  3. Hint: the best thing that I have found to use on new O'rings and nitrile gaskets is a silicone grease that you can find in dive shops. It is Trident Silicone Grease. It will also add life to aged O'rings.
  4. Hint: the end-caps will be difficult to remove without damaging them. Care a patience are required if you have never done this before.
  5. Hint: If you buy membranes and either ship them, or carry them in airplane-checked-luggage, buy PVC pipe and end caps from a plumbing supplier. Insert the membrane into the PVC pipe to protect it in shipping. Another Hint: Security will likely want to open these PVC pipes to see what is inside. Do not glue the PVC end caps and be sure to drill a small hole in the end cap. The hole allows for air to enter when pulling the cap off...without the hole the end cap may have to be cut off because vacuum may hold the cap in place. Tape your membrane invoice to the outside of the PVC pipe so that Security can see the document.
Good luck, and I hope that this email helps you.

​Best,​

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


 

--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Port Cros, Côte d'azur, France




--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Hyères, Côte d'azur, France

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan starting problem

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Willem,

I took a factory Onan service course in the UK.  During the course the instructor mentioned that the start/stop solenoid is the most frequent problem on the Kubota engines.

Buy 2 solenoids = 1 being a spare.

Woodward 1502  PN 307-2546-00 Shut down solenoid will fit.


Good luck.


Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, SM 007

On 14 Aug 2017, at 15:31, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Willem,
 
It seems to me based on what you wrote you have identified the problem. Perhaps the solenoid is bad or out of adjustment. Or, perhaps the spring needs to be cleaned or re-tensioned.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Grenada
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:48 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan starting problem
 
 
Hi all,
 
Today the Onan suddenly stopped working. No fault breakers activated. But also after a while I could not start the generator again. Just cranking. But when I move the manual shut off solonoid in against the spring pressure it fires up. But when I remove the pressure on the solonoid it shuts down again.
 
What is wrong and what to do?
 
Willem Kroes
 
SM #351 Kavanga at anchor in Falmouth
 
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water membranes replacement

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi again,

as I was looking to get the right jubilee clip, I wondered if the end caps can be removed on either side or only on the HP pipe side.

If so, do you remove the HP metal hose (shown on pic 5) or is it possible to fit the jubilee clip around it?

Thanks for your clarifications.
Soraya



On 8 August 2017 at 19:56, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Soraya and Thomas,


 There is an easy way to remove the end caps. Buy  the right sized jubilee clip and fit it around the end cap. Before tightening it, insert two ends of a short piece of webbing to make a loop.

 Now tighten the jubilee clip as tight as you can to trap the two ends of the webbing against the cap.

 Sit in the cockpit and put the loop over one of the cleats on the mizzen mast.  Hold the black tube and give a number of sharp tugs. The end cap will pop off. 


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece


From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 08 August 2017 13:25:46
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water membranes replacement
 
Soraya & Thomas,

When Bill Kinney wrote about the dry saltwater membranes, that was the first I heard about the existence of these. So, I cannot comment on any experience with them. I am not sure how long they have been available. When I last bought membranes, Air Water Ice did not have these. In fact, it was the owner of Air Water Ice that told me there was no way for me to buy spares and the necessity to keep the membranes wet until installed. But, things change and one person's limited experience does not mean that his experience is complete. 

I believe that if you can find your size priced between 160-185 euro ex-VAT, that will be about the best price. The best price for the 40 inch membrane for the 160 liter will be around 200 euro. 

The difficult part will be removing the end caps. If you can clamp the end caps in a vise and then twist and pull the tubes from the end caps, you will have no problems. If you try to remove the end caps in your cockpit without a vise, you will have difficulty. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Aug 8, 2017 04:17, "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Bill & Bill & all,

We had already downloaded Bill R's PDF guide shared earlier this year, but these additional clarifications are very welcome. Thank you!
 
We are already living aboard (so need membranes shipped), and they are to be installed immediately not for spares (so hopefully wet/dry will be less of an issue this time round).

We will report back to the group on this when sourcing and work has been done :), if useful to others in the region. Many suppliers seem to apply a significant premium so definitely something worth shopping around for, especially if you need 3 like on the DUO100 (we have seen prices ranging from 175 to 480 EUR for 1 membrane !..).

Also curious about how you establish when your membranes need replacing? We are assuming this is a matter of flow (L/h) and/or output TDS measurement. Anything else to consider? Have you generally found that membranes can be used close to their spec (#hours)?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience,

Soraya
& Thomas
-- 
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Port Cros, Côte d'azur, France

On 6 August 2017 at 16:03, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

Soraya & Thomas,

I see that Hutter gave you a source in the EU for membranes. Hint: According to Air Water Ice, Filmtec SW membranes have a shelf-life of 6 months. If you suspect that the supplier has had inventory this long, don't buy the membranes from that supplier.

The following information will probably be helpful:
  1. There is only ONE manufacturer of these SW membranes worldwide, so any membrane you buy is made by Filmtec.
  2. There is a special diagonal-cut O'ring that is shipped installed on the membranes from Filmtec. Be careful because this O'ring only allows insertion into the pressure tube in one direction. When you see it, it will be obvious. Also, be careful and aware when you remove the old membranes of the orientation of this special O'ring. Mark the tube and number each tube so that you do not make any mistakes. Additionally, there are a number of O'rings that you should replace when doing this job. The small Bobbin-Interconnects have O'rings and the End Caps have O rings. You should order these from dessalator.com to ensure the correct size.
  3. Hint: the best thing that I have found to use on new O'rings and nitrile gaskets is a silicone grease that you can find in dive shops. It is Trident Silicone Grease. It will also add life to aged O'rings.
  4. Hint: the end-caps will be difficult to remove without damaging them. Care a patience are required if you have never done this before.
  5. Hint: If you buy membranes and either ship them, or carry them in airplane-checked-luggage, buy PVC pipe and end caps from a plumbing supplier. Insert the membrane into the PVC pipe to protect it in shipping. Another Hint: Security will likely want to open these PVC pipes to see what is inside. Do not glue the PVC end caps and be sure to drill a small hole in the end cap. The hole allows for air to enter when pulling the cap off...without the hole the end cap may have to be cut off because vacuum may hold the cap in place. Tape your membrane invoice to the outside of the PVC pipe so that Security can see the document.
Good luck, and I hope that this email helps you.

​Best,​

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


 

--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Port Cros, Côte d'azur, France




--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Hyères, Côte d'azur, France

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan starting problem

Mark Erdos
 

Willem,

 

It seems to me based on what you wrote you have identified the problem. Perhaps the solenoid is bad or out of adjustment. Or, perhaps the spring needs to be cleaned or re-tensioned.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:48 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan starting problem

 

 

Hi all,

 

Today the Onan suddenly stopped working. No fault breakers activated. But also after a while I could not start the generator again. Just cranking. But when I move the manual shut off solonoid in against the spring pressure it fires up. But when I remove the pressure on the solonoid it shuts down again.

 

What is wrong and what to do?

 

Willem Kroes

 

SM #351 Kavanga at anchor in Falmouth

 

 

Re: Onan starting problem

Paul Osterberg
 

We had a similar problem, that happened just after we bought Kerpa. Strangely enough I could start the Onan if I first started the Main engine. We assumed it needed the extra voltage, we did that for a while as we found no mechanic that could help us, then suddenly after a few weeks the problem disappeared. Have worked without problem now for over 2 years. I am very interested in knowing if you find the cause of your problem.
Regards
Paul

Onan starting problem

Willem Kroes
 

Hi all,


Today the Onan suddenly stopped working. No fault breakers activated. But also after a while I could not start the generator again. Just cranking. But when I move the manual shut off solonoid in against the spring pressure it fires up. But when I remove the pressure on the solonoid it shuts down again.

What is wrong and what to do?

Willem Kroes

SM #351 Kavanga at anchor in Falmouth


Re: Good Service In Marmaris Turkey

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 


Hi Bill,.
I think you meant the AP should be in Wn (Wind Navigate) mode, not just W (Wind) mode, right?
Cheers, Craig SN#68 Sangaris, sailing in Wn mode off NJ coast with waypoint to Sandy Hook.

---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :


Yes, the AP needs to be in "Wind" mode for VMG optimization to work.  If you are steering a compass course all the information about wind angle is ignored.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Underway, Bar Harbor, heading south.

---In amelyachtowners@..., <svperegrinus@...> wrote :

Bill Kinney,

I checked the box in "Autopilot > Sailing > VMG Optimizing".  Thanks for the tip!

Now, for this to work one must designate a waypoint to navigate to and activate "Wind Navigation", correct?

I tried it this morning as we sailed upwind and it worked fine for about 1/2 hr holding a great course, until wind changed suddenly and dropped at the same time —welcome to the Med— and the autopilot let the boat do an "accidental tack," i.e., we got the genoa reversed all of the sudden.  We purposefully let it mess up, of course, to to see how smart the thing is.

Looks like we will be using this function a lot in the future, I just want to make sure I'm doing it correctly!  We have a Zeus 12 and a Zeus2 7.

Best,


Peregrinus
SM2K #350
At anchor, Calcidia (Negroponte)




---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Yes, a 24 ->12 volt convertor will certainly work.  The advantages of the resistor are fewer parts (one!) and it cost $2.80--for a package of two.

I do not know how consistent the menu trees are for different MFDs, but here is where that option lives on on our Zeus touch:

Push "Page"-> Go to "Settings" -> Select "Autopilot" -> Select "Sailing"

From the resulting popup window, turn on "VMG optimizing".

I do not think this is in the manual for the autopilot computer at all. You have to go to the manual for the device (or devices) you use to control it.

I know it can also be selected from the Triton display, but I don't remember that menu list because I hardly ever use it...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Bar Harbor, Maine.


---In amelyachtowners@..., <svperegrinus@...> wrote :

Bill,

We have the same B&G AC42, using a Victron DC-DC converter from 24V to 12V for the clutch.  A great installation since 2014.

What autopilot mode or setting is it that optimizes VMG when close-hauled?  I seem to have missed that on the manual!

Thanks in advance,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
en route to Chalcis (Negropont)

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jean COLLIN, manager Amel Martinique, Cel : +596 (0) 696 419 045


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Aug 13, 2017 22:45, "Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Eric,
This is rigger Amel recommends.  

Gaetan Rivet
Caraibe Greement
Email:  gaetan@...
Cell #:  596696415642
Le Marin MARTINIQUE 97290

------------

Amel Le Marin contact info:

Caraibes - Amel FR Amel
Jean Collin

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Aug 13, 2017, at 10:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com&gt ; wrote:

 

Hi,

I know it has been posted before but does someone have the Amel contact and the riggers contact info in Martinique?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Re: DC Grounding fault

greatketch@...
 

Alan,

Thanks for the update!

Am I correct when I assume your laptop is connected to your AIS by a serial or USB cable?

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Underway from Bar Harbor heading south

Re: Good Service In Marmaris Turkey

greatketch@...
 


Yes, the AP needs to be in "Wind" mode for VMG optimization to work.  If you are steering a compass course all the information about wind angle is ignored.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Underway, Bar Harbor, heading south.

---In amelyachtowners@..., <svperegrinus@...> wrote :

Bill Kinney,

I checked the box in "Autopilot > Sailing > VMG Optimizing".  Thanks for the tip!

Now, for this to work one must designate a waypoint to navigate to and activate "Wind Navigation", correct?

I tried it this morning as we sailed upwind and it worked fine for about 1/2 hr holding a great course, until wind changed suddenly and dropped at the same time —welcome to the Med— and the autopilot let the boat do an "accidental tack," i.e., we got the genoa reversed all of the sudden.  We purposefully let it mess up, of course, to to see how smart the thing is.

Looks like we will be using this function a lot in the future, I just want to make sure I'm doing it correctly!  We have a Zeus 12 and a Zeus2 7.

Best,


Peregrinus
SM2K #350
At anchor, Calcidia (Negroponte)




---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Yes, a 24 ->12 volt convertor will certainly work.  The advantages of the resistor are fewer parts (one!) and it cost $2.80--for a package of two.

I do not know how consistent the menu trees are for different MFDs, but here is where that option lives on on our Zeus touch:

Push "Page"-> Go to "Settings" -> Select "Autopilot" -> Select "Sailing"

From the resulting popup window, turn on "VMG optimizing".

I do not think this is in the manual for the autopilot computer at all. You have to go to the manual for the device (or devices) you use to control it.

I know it can also be selected from the Triton display, but I don't remember that menu list because I hardly ever use it...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Bar Harbor, Maine.


---In amelyachtowners@..., <svperegrinus@...> wrote :

Bill,

We have the same B&G AC42, using a Victron DC-DC converter from 24V to 12V for the clutch.  A great installation since 2014.

What autopilot mode or setting is it that optimizes VMG when close-hauled?  I seem to have missed that on the manual!

Thanks in advance,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
en route to Chalcis (Negropont)