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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main furler gearbox

Patrick McAneny
 

Duane, Its amazing that it would not turn while in a vice, however I could only tighten to a point for fear of cracking it. I am going into town this morning and will pick up some blaster and give it a good soak , then wack it some more with a rubber mallet. 
Thanks,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Jan 31, 2018 4:02 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main furler gearbox

 
I was able to get it out by tapping around the exterior of the black winch socket with a rubber mallet (you may have to tap pretty agressively).  The idea being to "tip" it progressively.  It took a while.  If it seems really stuck try some PB Blaster to dissolve any corrosion.  

I'm surprised you couldn't twist the black piece when you had it in a vice.  Did you try a pipe wrench, or a strap wrench?  You might try a combination of PB Blaster the night before, then tapping to break it free of some of the corrosion and twisting with a strap wrench.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: How to remove freezer compressor

amelfango
 

Hello,

As I'm near La Rochelle and will be on the AMEL pontoon later this week I can ask about access to the compressor from somebody there perhaps Nicolas.

Have just sold Cléo our very much loved 54.  

Regards,

Rob


Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

amelfango
 

Has anyone else had a problem with the Opacmare passerelle becoming stiff or jamming and sometimes failing to extend?  This is on AMEL 54 Cléo.


I have had this problem and was wondering if I am the only one.


Rob


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Quick question on desalator membrane replacement

kwzy6vgkpvtfohjddjsrotobzwf2pjeafjwalhur@...
 

You need the "O" rings to be at the HP end of the vessels. So the water from the HP pump goes into the first vessel (track the HP hose) that is where the O ring should be and then the water flows into the next vessel with HP hose or probably a solid stainless steel HP pipe link the O ring needs to be at this end and then the water exits the vessels and out over the side of the boat.

If you have them the wrong way round then there will be very little product water, as you have found.

Nick 

Amelia (54)


Re: Wet Cell Batteries

kwzy6vgkpvtfohjddjsrotobzwf2pjeafjwalhur@...
 

How old is your battery bank?
How budget conscious are you?
Are you about to go on a long voyage away from chandleries?
After fully charging how long and how many amps does it take to get to 50% charge measured by specific gravity?

Assuming that the answer to the last question is acceptable and:


Assuming you really want to maximise the life from your battery bank.  I would consider disconnecting the two worst offending batteries. So your bank is 10 batteries wired up as pairs to give 24v. Then see how the rest of the bank performs. If the remaining bank holds it's charge well then you must decide what to do with the two dead ones. Maybe equalise/replace them or do without.

As for equalisation. You could try it before changing the dud batteries.  If you fully charge the bank with your Dolphin chargers until they accept no more charge and then turn all load off and on a sunny day use the solar regulator to equalise. The batteries should gas and boil, this stirs up the electrolyte and hopefully cleans off the plates. One hour is not enough you could reset it several times.

The main advantage of wet cell batteries is that you can boil them and refill with distilled water. 

Nick Amelia (54) with a new bank of Lifeline AGM, new chargers as the old Dolphins died and 530w solar and two wind generators.





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K

Warren Traill
 

FYI. We own Sharki #15 1980. Our first Amel. We are living on board in Phuket/Thailand. Have owned her for 3 years and constantly admire the design wisdom of Henri Amel.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2018 7:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K

 

 

Steve,

 

I have been through a few Amel as I was looking at a good one to buy within my budget.  I can highly recommend one owner in La Rachelle who has one of the best I have viewed.  It was unfortunately a little to expensive for my budget and I passed but I regret a bit somehow.  If you are interested I can put you in touch with him.

In any case I suggest that you buy in La Rochelle, there are a few good owners and good boats, you also get the yard pontoon and the Pochon Amel subcontractor to do any work you will require with the same standard as they have done on the original boat.  This is also not to mention Olivier Beaute lives there so he can inspect the boat that he probably already know everything about!

 

Regards,

 

Redouan Assar.

Stella ex-Zeerob SM359

 



On 28 Jan 2018, at 11:39, steve b stevect@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi All,

         It;s been a while since i last posted, in my previous post we were lookin g to purchase an Amel SM2K  2001-2005, We were at the time maybe jumping the gun somewhat as we still had a business commitments.

 

We have however spent considerable time and effort to look at numerous Amels throughout the world, and many more who  have visited Cape Town (  tks to all the people who we have met and been allowed to spent time on their yachts and all the advice given , you know who you are and we appericate the advice given ).

 

We are now in the final negotiations of selling our business and now have a 12-18 mnth timeline to start our sailing dream and therefore are hoping to purchase something in the next 12 months.

 

I would appericate it if any one has ,/is planning to sell  or knows of any SM2K up for sale.? It is important we are able to speak to the owners directly as i believe this gives us a far better underst anding of the condition of the yacht and how much care it has been given.

 

P.S  we are also in contact with Michel and Joel 

 

Regards

 

Steve

 

 


Re: Wet Cell Batteries

Ian Park
 

My battery knowledge is limited also. Personally I think it would be better to remove the weak battery rather than replace it. I only have 4 house batteries on my Santorin, but I had one poor one in Mindelo prior to crossing the Atlantic. I removed it ( to a grateful fisherman) and crossed with just 3. The although the notional capacity was less they charged up fully (and more quickly less amp hours). I bought 4 new ones in Martinique. Your bank will only charge up to the acceptance level of the weakest battery.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Wet Cell Batteries

greatketch@...
 

Duane,

You didn't mention how old your batteries are, or who made them.  With any voltage setting questions I always go to the manufacturer's literature as the primary source since different batteries are... well... different.  Not all flooded batteries are exactly the same.  A half gallon of water into 12 batteries over a month doesn't sound very excessive to me.  that's less than 30 ml/cell/month.

Equalization is an important part of getting certain types of batteries (especially flooded cell batteries) to live out their full life span. This is sometimes called "desulfateing."  It can be tough to get a good equalization charge using a solar system, but it can be done by bring them up to full before the brightest part of the day with the genset.  Again, your battery maker is a good source for what an equalization charge should look like and how to know how much is enough.  If one hour is not sufficient, you can just start another cycle right away.

Some battery makers recommend monitoring SG as a way of determining when the equalization charge is complete rather than using a time based recipe.

It is generally accepted that replacing one battery out of a set is bad practice.  Having batteries of significantly different ages means they are being charged very differently, and that it bad for the whole string.  Sometimes it can't be avoided, but in general it is a bad idea.

Check the connections, make sure they are all clean and tight.  Then do a full equalization charge, as per the makers recommendation, and see if those SG values come closer together. Then think about running an equalization as part of your standard maintenance program. 

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Little Harbor, Abaco, Bahamas

---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailor63109@...> wrote :

I'm trying to understand the condition of our house battery bank.  I'm definitely not a battery expert.  We have the original Dolphin Battery Chargers (100A and 30A).  We use the 30A at the dock and the 100A with the generator.  We also have a Victron Blue Solar 100/30 with 630 watts of solar panels.  The installer set it at 28.8V Absorption and 27.6V Float (Position 2).


First:  The 12 Group 31 house batteries use about 0.5 gallons/month...is that excessive?  I'm wondering if the MPPT controller is overcharging the batteries.


Second:  How close to replacement are we?

I checked the specific gravity of all cells recently (see the attached spreadsheet).  I read that a new, fully charged cell should be at 1.265, and is discharged at a SG of 1.120.  The best cell tested at 1.265 and the weakest cell at 1.145 (corrected for temperature).  The average SG of all cells was 1.226.  This SG corresponds to 75% state of charge from what I read.  At SG of 1.190 the battery is at 50% SOC and battery #3 has three cells in that range.


Third:  Should I just replace Battery #3?


Fourth:  I've read that when the difference between cells in a battery is greater than 0.03,0 the batteries would benefit from equalization.  My Dolphin chargers are not adjustable (at least as far as I can tell).  The MPPT has an equalization function that will run for an hour.  Will that be sufficient?


Thanks for your input,

Duane 

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Wet Cell Batteries

greatketch@...
 




---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailor63109@...> wrote :

I'm trying to understand the condition of our house battery bank.  I'm definitely not a battery expert.  We have the original Dolphin Battery Chargers (100A and 30A).  We use the 30A at the dock and the 100A with the generator.  We also have a Victron Blue Solar 100/30 with 630 watts of solar panels.  The installer set it at 28.8V Absorption and 27.6V Float (Position 2).


First:  The 12 Group 31 house batteries use about 0.5 gallons/month...is that excessive?  I'm wondering if the MPPT controller is overcharging the batteries.


Second:  How close to replacement are we?

I checked the specific gravity of all cells recently (see the attached spreadsheet).  I read that a new, fully charged cell should be at 1.265, and is discharged at a SG of 1.120.  The best cell tested at 1.265 and the weakest cell at 1.145 (corrected for temperature).  The average SG of all cells was 1.226.  This SG corresponds to 75% state of charge from what I read.  At SG of 1.190 the battery is at 50% SOC and battery #3 has three cells in that range.


Third:  Should I just replace Battery #3?


Fourth:  I've read that when the difference between cells in a battery is greater than 0.03,0 the batteries would benefit from equalization.  My Dolphin chargers are not adjustable (at least as far as I can tell).  The MPPT has an equalization function that will run for an hour.  Will that be sufficient?


Thanks for your input,

Duane 

Wanderer, SM#477


Wet Cell Batteries

Duane Siegfri
 

I'm trying to understand the condition of our house battery bank.  I'm definitely not a battery expert.  We have the original Dolphin Battery Chargers (100A and 30A).  We use the 30A at the dock and the 100A with the generator.  We also have a Victron Blue Solar 100/30 with 630 watts of solar panels.  The installer set it at 28.8V Absorption and 27.6V Float (Position 2).


First:  The 12 Group 31 house batteries use about 0.5 gallons/month...is that excessive?  I'm wondering if the MPPT controller is overcharging the batteries.


Second:  How close to replacement are we?

I checked the specific gravity of all cells recently (see the attached spreadsheet).  I read that a new, fully charged cell should be at 1.265, and is discharged at a SG of 1.120.  The best cell tested at 1.265 and the weakest cell at 1.145 (corrected for temperature).  The average SG of all cells was 1.226.  This SG corresponds to 75% state of charge from what I read.  At SG of 1.190 the battery is at 50% SOC and battery #3 has three cells in that range.


Third:  Should I just replace Battery #3?


Fourth:  I've read that when the difference between cells in a battery is greater than 0.03,0 the batteries would benefit from equalization.  My Dolphin chargers are not adjustable (at least as far as I can tell).  The MPPT has an equalization function that will run for an hour.  Will that be sufficient?


Thanks for your input,

Duane 

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Oh no...MOLD

Duane Siegfri
 

Thanks Gary.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wanted: Amel sharki

Hajé Weisfelt
 

Dear Marnne,

We own a Sharki in Holland. Currently lying in Port Zélande for the winter races. As of march in Kortgene (province Zeeland) and summer in Friesland. In between a couple of times towards UK. 
If you're interested you can hop on for a trip Holland UK or vv. 

Please contact me at Hajukas on Gmail. hajukas@...

Cheers, Hajé Weisfelt, Charmed II, Sharki 104.

Op 25 jan. 2018 10:47 p.m. schreef "marnnebeech@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to buy a Sharki and wondered if anyone knew of any for sale.

I am based in London and the only one I can find in Europe currently is in Greece, so quite the sail back home.

Also any info on major things to look out for when buying a Sharki would be very much appreciated.

Cheers,

Marnne


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: How to remove freezer compressor [1 Attachment]

ya_fohi
 

Nelson,

We are in Martinique. Do yuu have any advice on the problem?

Cheers,
Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Diameter Reling

Peter Jaeger
 

Thank you Bill


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Am Samstag, Januar 27, 2018, 21:27 schrieb greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] :

 

25mm


Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Sandy Point, Great Abaco, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main furler gearbox

Patrick McAneny
 

Duanne, Its not hard to find ways of spending money on a boat ,is it. I hope I can salvage and work with what I have . Mine will probably be as bad as yours as my boat is a 94 , probably older than yours. The bearings have to be bad , the gearbox would not turn even with a winch handle , until I worked it back and forth for a couple of minutes and finally got it moving.
Thanks Again,
Pat SM #123

-----Original Message-----
From: sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Jan 29, 2018 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main furler gearbox

 
Pat,

I didn't replace any parts, I ended up ordering a new one (almost $1,000).  The drive shaft was so badly pitted at the upper seal and the upper bearing that the Machine Shop advised turning it down to smooth it out wouldn't be a good idea.  Also, the housing surface the upper bearing race seated against was badly pitted.  

You'll get the black piece out, just a matter of time.  Easy for me to say!  <;-)

You might try to apply some heat to the aluminum (wasn't the black piece plastic?).

Duane






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main furler gearbox

Duane Siegfri
 

Pat,

I didn't replace any parts, I ended up ordering a new one (almost $1,000).  The drive shaft was so badly pitted at the upper seal and the upper bearing that the Machine Shop advised turning it down to smooth it out wouldn't be a good idea.  Also, the housing surface the upper bearing race seated against was badly pitted.  

You'll get the black piece out, just a matter of time.  Easy for me to say!  <;-)

You might try to apply some heat to the aluminum (wasn't the black piece plastic?).

Duane






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main furler gearbox

Patrick McAneny
 

Duane, I followed what you said in the photo section and tapped the hell out of it. I used a regular hammer and left dings in the aluminum housing , I was afraid to hit the black piece too hard . I will try it with a rubber mallet and put it in a vice again and hit it . I will soak it in some PB Blaster first. Thanks for the suggestions. I had trouble finding the seals etc. on Motion Industries website , I spoke with them in Baltimore and they said I could  ship the parts to them to match , but I was wondering if you had to part #s to what you bought. 
Thanks Again,
Pat SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Jan 29, 2018 12:03 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main furler gearbox

 
Pat,

I replied earlier but don't see it now, so excuse me if both show up.

I got mine out by tapping with a rubber mallet around the perimeter of the black piece with the body of the furler in a vise.  After it was "broken free" of the accumulated salt and crud it came out easily.  You might try a solvent like PB Blaster, or just soak it in freshwater to dissolve the salt first.  A combination of tapping and twisting (with a strap wrench) might be successful.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Main furler gearbox

Duane Siegfri
 

Pat,

I replied earlier but don't see it now, so excuse me if both show up.

I got mine out by tapping with a rubber mallet around the perimeter of the black piece with the body of the furler in a vise.  After it was "broken free" of the accumulated salt and crud it came out easily.  You might try a solvent like PB Blaster, or just soak it in freshwater to dissolve the salt first.  A combination of tapping and twisting (with a strap wrench) might be successful.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: How to remove freezer compressor [1 Attachment]

circumnavigators2 <circumnavigators2@...>
 

Good morning Sharon where are you located? We specialize on Amel sailboats in Fort Lauderdale, FL area. Feel free to contact us.

Thanks.

Nelson Rodriguez 

Circumnavigators II Yacht Services, LLC
Email: circumnavigators2@... 
Cell: 954.610.0009



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Date: 1/29/18 09:03 (GMT-05:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: How to remove freezer compressor [1 Attachment]

 

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Re: How to remove freezer compressor

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