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Re: BT seals

Nicolas Klene
 

Hi Ken
Could we have the address if the manufacturer to order ourselves and save you the trouble ?
thanks Ken
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Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: BT seals

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

Hello All,

 

The appetite for the Jose designed seals was completely unexpected.  

 

Currently I have ordered 20 pieces at $70.50 per set not including shipping.  I don’t expect the shipping on these seals to be expensive being they weigh next to nothing.  The delivery is 3 weeks.  They should arrive in Vegas by the end of June.  I will have 18 pieces to sell from this batch.

 

The current requirement for these seals is about 75 sets, and I guess it sez a lot about the Jose designed seals.

 

I asked the manufacturer if there would be a price break for higher quantities.  The answer was “$70.50 is as low as they will go”, and they said that “the quantity does not matter. The price and the delivery are almost completely due to the material.”

 

Thus, anyone can order 20 pieces and get the same price.  I don’t want to afford to order 80 pieces at $71 each, or $5600.  It would be a very large pain in the Ass as one person wrote.

 

 

There is one problem with these seals.  I have corresponded with two people that have installed these lip seals.  Both failed at the first attempt, and the $81 set of seals were scrapped.  This is not acceptable, and the reason why was because there was no instructions on how to install them properly.   One person that failed at the first attempt, installed the 2nd set upside down, which might be the best way to install them.  Then he sailed 4000 miles without any hint of water leakage.  There needs to be clear and concise instructions available to anyone that buys these seals.

 

Here is what I will do.

 

  1. I will take down all the information about installation, and put together a set of clear instructions that should work for all of us.
  2. The first people that Pay the $81 for each set plus $15 shipping and handling for US delivery will get the remaining 18 units. 

 

Send me an email to ken@..., I will tell you how many are left, and you can send the payment via PayPal.  I will message the group when all have sold.

 

I will post my installation instructions as a message for more discussion with the group. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ken Powers

Aquarius

SM2K#262

 


Event: ZOOM Meeting with Bill Rouse Presenting what he offers Amel Owners and Amel Buyers - 06/05/2021 #cal-reminder

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Reminder: ZOOM Meeting with Bill Rouse Presenting what he offers Amel Owners and Amel Buyers

When:
06/05/2021
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) Etc/GMT

Where:
Galveston, TX

Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@... +18323806969

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:

Note Date Change: As most of you know Tilo Peters, a group member does an amazing job hosting our zoom meetings. He had a conflict with 25 May. Our meeting date has changed to 5 June. I hope that this does not conflict with any attendees' schedules.

 

This ZOOM Meeting will be presented by me, Bill Rouse. This meeting will be for Group Members interested in buying an Amel and Amel Owners wanting more information about their Amels. I will have a special gift for all of those attending the meeting:

I will review all of the things that I offer Amel Buyers and Amel Owners including: 

·       The Amel Book

·       Pre-Purchase Consulting

·       Training Courses

·       24/7 Support

·       The Online Amel Book 

All those that RSVP and attend will receive 30 days of free access to my new Online Amel Book. To receive this, you must RSVP regardless of whether you will attend via Zoom or YouTube. Access instructions and your password to the Online Amel Book will be emailed to each RSVP’d member after the meeting is completed. Access to the Online Amel Book is timely as many of you will be returning to sailing in the coming months. Also, included with access to the Online Amel Book is 30 days of free access to Amel Book Supplements, which if printed would be 20,000 pages. 


Time: June 05, 2021 20:00 GMT

Join Zoom Meeting
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Meeting ID: 830 4815 8394
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YouTube Live Stream:
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Re: BT seals

karkauai
 

Hi Bruce,
I'm a little confused...
First, I can't seem to open the attachment on my android phone.  Can you post it un-zipped?

Can we/should we order the Jose seals directly from the source, or is someone putting together a huge order?  I had only 10 or 12 people to whom I provided 3D-printed cabinet/drawer handles, and the worldwide shipping was a pretty big hassle.

Thanks
Kent & Iris
SM 243
Kristy

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Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Holding tank riser

karkauai
 

Thank you Peter...was hoping the panel with the cubby holes could be removed without major cutting.

Kent

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Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: SM winch motor brushes

Bill Kinney
 

Mike,

The chances of the furling motor and the winch motor sharing brushes is vanishingly small.  not QUITE zero... but very close.  The electric winches were supplied by Lewmar (they are not an Amel specific part). On our boat, the winch drive motor and gearbox were made by Bonfiglioli, while the furling motors are Leroy Somers.  If your boat has the Bonfiglioli furling motors, the chances go up by a tiny bit... I do not know if Lewmar used exactly the same motors throughout the production run for these winches.

I haven’t had the opportunity to pull apart the motors for the winches, so can’t help with the details.  Like the furling motors, these motors and gearboxes are standard industrial parts.  If you can read the motor label ahead of time, you can pre-order the brushes.  If that’s not possible, once you have the old brushes in hand and can measure them, you can almost always get them from Grainger, or one of the companies who specialize in motor brushes.

We have found that all of the Lewmar dealers and distributors in the USA (including Lewmar USA) were pretty helpless as far as helping us with parts for these winches.  Nobody we talked to had the information about how the parts for the electric version was different from the the much more common manual version. We ended up getting our parts from Ocean Chandlery in the UK.  They immediately knew and understood exactly what we needed.

And in the “for what it is worth” department:  On Leroy Somers motors used in the main sail furling system:  Leroy Somers changed the design of the motor several years ago, but KEPT EXACTLY THE SAME PART NUMBER.  The new motor has the same electrical and power specifications, bolts in place and works fine, but is a slightly smaller diameter, and, most importantly, has a completely different design for the brushes.  If you order brushes based on the part number, it is a tossup on getting the right part!  Just a heads up that having the brushes in hand and ordering based on dimensions is sometimes the best thing to do.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Eleuthera, BS


Re: BT seals

Arno Luijten
 

Many thanks to all involved making this set available and to Bill pointing out the A54 can also benefit from this product.

So I would like to order two sets as well. They can be shipped  either to Miami or St. Martin (Dutch Caribbean).
Please let me know how to proceed.

Thanks in advance,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: sv ABAYOMI #cal-notice

Alain Blanchard
 

Hello Eric & Els
Congrats. We Sail hull 146 and enjoy a lot.
We might cross each other in Med since we will sail soon from France to Italy then Greece.
Fair winds / Alain

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 5 juin 2021 à 04:02, Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> a écrit :

Congrats on the "New" boat!  Good choice!
Fair Winds,
Ken
Aquarius
SM2K#262


Re: Holding tank riser

Peter de Groot
 

Hi Kent and iris,
On the forward head we had to remove a portion of the thin plywood below the tank. We also had to enlarge the holes in the shelves where the hoses pass through. It looked pretty rough until the hull liner went back in.

Peter de Groot
La Querida, SM #207


Re: Engine blowers

Bill Kinney
 

Bill,

Others more conversant with new model Super Maramus might know better, but I am going to guess that the thermostat was an addition by a previous owner.  Certainly older Super Maramus did not have this, the blowers were switched only by the ignition key.

If I was looking for such a thing, I’d start in the aft, port, outboard corner of the engine room, up high on a wood panel, where the relays are located.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Eleuthera, BS.


Re: BT seals

 

Dariusz,

I think so if the tube on your Santorin is 60mm, it will have a 60mm lip seal with a neoprene foam seal on top of the lip seal.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 6:38 AM Dariusz Przygonski SN#89 LILA <d.przygonski@...> wrote:
Will this set of bow thruster seals fit my Santorin 1993 ?

If so, please add to the list. 2 sets, delivery to Poland

Thank you

Dariusz Przygonski
S/Y "LILA" - Santorin#89


Re: BT seals

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He i would like to have 2 units
For germany
Thanks
Elja
SM Balu 222

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Re: BT seals

Dariusz Przygonski SN#89 LILA
 

Will this set of bow thruster seals fit my Santorin 1993 ?

If so, please add to the list. 2 sets, delivery to Poland

Thank you

Dariusz Przygonski
S/Y "LILA" - Santorin#89


Re: BT seals

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi Ken, Hello Bill,
Dear All,

first of all, thank you Bill for your clarification that these gaskets also fit our A54 BT. This was not clear until now and also not self-evident. It was only corresponded with SM owners, especially since the BT designs between SM and 54 are clearly different.
Therefore, I am happy if 2 pairs of gaskets can also be ordered for our A54. Delivery to Germany, Lake Constance.
Exact shipping address and paying info will follow upon request.

Best thanks to all who have been so active in this job. Great help from a great community.

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
"Soleil Bleu" / A54#088
currently in Leros GR. (but we are still at home in GER)

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I will take 3 sets. Shipped to Cleveland OH, USA

Martyn Crighton  

SV NADA, SM 327
St. Lucia


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 08:33 Pietro Zaccari via groups.io <tsarzac=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
1.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
2.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
3.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
4.  Slavko Despotovic 
5.  Slavko Despotovic
6.  Eloi Bamberg
7.  Eloi Bamberg
8.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
9.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
10.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
11. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy
12. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy
13. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy


Pietro
Bolero SM 364, Bocca di Magra

Inviato da iPad



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Marty and Angela Crighton
Future Amel Owners
Pyeongtaek, South Korea


Re: BT seals

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi Ken, Hello Bill,
Dear All,

first of all, thank you Bill for your clarification that these gaskets also fit our A54 BT. This was not clear until now and also not self-evident. It was only corresponded with SM owners, especially since the BT designs between SM and 54 are clearly different.
Therefore, I am happy if 2 pairs of gaskets can also be ordered for our A54. Delivery to Germany, Lake Constance.
Exact shipping address and paying info will follow upon request.

Best thanks to all who have been so active in this job. Great help from a great community.

Ulrich Michael
"Soleil Bleu" / A54#088
currently in Leros GR. (but we are still at home in GER)

<>

I will take 3 sets. Shipped to Cleveland OH, USA

Martyn Crighton  

SV NADA, SM 327
St. Lucia


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 08:33 Pietro Zaccari via groups.io <tsarzac=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
1.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
2.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
3.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
4.  Slavko Despotovic 
5.  Slavko Despotovic
6.  Eloi Bamberg
7.  Eloi Bamberg
8.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
9.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
10.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
11. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy
12. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy
13. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy


Pietro
Bolero SM 364, Bocca di Magra

Inviato da iPad



--
Marty and Angela Crighton
Future Amel Owners
Pyeongtaek, South Korea


Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Ken,
I may be interested but it is not completely clear to me now it looks like. Is there any overview photos what the result looks like? 
Do you already know the weight and what the costs will be?

Rgrds
Eric ( Rdam Hoilland)
sv Abayomi SM 158 
currently in Italy


Re: BT seals

Leopold Hauer
 

Could you please add me to the list too, 2 sets delivered to Austria.
Would be great, thank you so much.

Leopold Hauer
Yin Yang
SM 69

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 05.06.2021 um 08:33 schrieb scentstone <scentstone@...>:



Thank you  Jose Venegas for the design and sharing knowledge
Thank you Ken Powers for maintaining the list
Thank you Biil Rouse for review and approval

Please could you add me for 2 sets with delivery to France.

I was wondering how to avoid bothering somebody at asking or waiting for the payment…
Maybe, when order time will be closed coud you post a summary indicating actual prices and shipping costs + credit card payment contact etc.

 

Thank you again

Fred S/V ScentStone SM2K #375 

Jun


Re: BT seals

Dominique Sery
 

Hello Ken,

I would also be interested for two sets, shipped to Europe (France).

Thanks

Dominique

Irko A54#16


Re: BT seals

scentstone
 

Thank you  Jose Venegas for the design and sharing knowledge
Thank you Ken Powers for maintaining the list
Thank you Biil Rouse for review and approval

Please could you add me for 2 sets with delivery to France.

I was wondering how to avoid bothering somebody at asking or waiting for the payment…
Maybe, when order time will be closed coud you post a summary indicating actual prices and shipping costs + credit card payment contact etc.

 

Thank you again

Fred S/V ScentStone SM2K #375 

Jun


Re: BT seals

Vladan SV PAME
 

Hi Ken,

I would like to order 2 sets, shipped to Turkey.

Thanks.


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Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME

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