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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oman Generator

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Hi Bill

Thank you for your reply.

My green lamp works very well.

Even with a measuring device at the socket I cannot determine that 220V are produced in the first 5 minutes. Or is it the case that if the green lamp is not lit, the power is not transmitted.

This would mean it works if I remove the green lamp?

 

Fair winds Heinz

SM 2000 292 Quetzal

 

Von: amelyachtowners@...
Gesendet: Montag, 23. April 2018 10:19
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oman Generator

 

 

It is very common for this light to fail. In fact I believe it would be unusual to find an original green AC light working on a SM. The light has a life of about 6-8 years. 

 

Rather than replacing the bulb, you should add a digital Volt/Amp/Hertz meter. This meter will ensure shore power delivery and help you to NOT overload shore power, or the generator.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 11:30 'Stutenbaeumer.Berlin' heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all

I have an onan generator on my SM 2000 that also works very well.
Since a few weeks I have the problem that the display for 220 V only lights up after the generator has been running for 5 to 10 minutes.
I have the feeling that this period of time is getting longer and longer.
Does anyone know this problem and does anyone know an answer?
I'd be grateful for any clues.

Fair Winds
Heinz Stutenbäumer,SM2000, 292, SV QUETZAL


Re: The mistery slick

greatketch@...
 

If you were looking at motor oil in the exhaust you would see a fairly rapid loss of oil level in the crankcase, and likely a LOT of smoke. 

I'll second Ian's suggestion that what you are seeing is actually diesel fuel.  You mention a bit of smoke also, and that would back up that suggestion.  One (or more!) injectors are either sticking open, or have a bad spray pattern and the fuel is not fully burning.  If this is happening a LOT you can actually see an increase in the level of oil in the crankcase as it gets diluted with diesel fuel.  This would be VERY bad.

You might be able to narrow it down to which cylinder by cracking the nut holding the fuel line to each injector in turn while the engine is idling.  When you open the fuel line to a "good" cylinder, the engine will slow and run rougher.  A "bad" cylinder will show little or no change.  It could be more than one.  Injectors can be damaged by dirt, or water in the fuel, so there could be a common cause.

This is important to get fixed.  When a cylinder wall is wet with unburned diesel fuel the lubricating oil is washed off, and wear is greatly accelerated.  Cleaning/Testing/Repairing/Rebuilding injectors can be done, but it is rather specialized work requiring high precision tools and expensive test beds to do correctly.  Not the job for the island mechanic, even if he thinks he can.  

If you do replace them with new, save the old and have them rebuilt by a specialist shop when you can.  Spare injectors are not a bad thing to have!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Rock Sound, Eleuthera, Bahamas

---In amelyachtowners@..., <parkianj@...> wrote :

When I had the engine mounts replaced and other work done on the engine in Martinique, the Amel engineer started it and told me I would either need to clean the injectors or preferably put in new ones (but not out here! They’re too expensive. Get them in Europe). Reason = he said look at the exhaust, there are traces of diesel coming out with the water - dirty injectors.

It would be worth verifying this, either from other owners with more experience or an engineer. My Perkins has done 5,500 miles now.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN 96 Antigua.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oman Generator

 

It is very common for this light to fail. In fact I believe it would be unusual to find an original green AC light working on a SM. The light has a life of about 6-8 years. 

Rather than replacing the bulb, you should add a digital Volt/Amp/Hertz meter. This meter will ensure shore power delivery and help you to NOT overload shore power, or the generator.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 11:30 'Stutenbaeumer.Berlin' heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello all

I have an onan generator on my SM 2000 that also works very well.
Since a few weeks I have the problem that the display for 220 V only lights up after the generator has been running for 5 to 10 minutes.
I have the feeling that this period of time is getting longer and longer.
Does anyone know this problem and does anyone know an answer?
I'd be grateful for any clues.

Fair Winds
Heinz Stutenbäumer,SM2000, 292, SV QUETZAL


Oman Generator

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Hello all

I have an onan generator on my SM 2000 that also works very well.
Since a few weeks I have the problem that the display for 220 V only lights up after the generator has been running for 5 to 10 minutes.
I have the feeling that this period of time is getting longer and longer.
Does anyone know this problem and does anyone know an answer?
I'd be grateful for any clues.

Fair Winds
Heinz Stutenbäumer,SM2000, 292, SV QUETZAL


Re: The mistery slick

Ian Park
 

When I had the engine mounts replaced and other work done on the engine in Martinique, the Amel engineer started it and told me I would either need to clean the injectors or preferably put in new ones (but not out here! They’re too expensive. Get them in Europe). Reason = he said look at the exhaust, there are traces of diesel coming out with the water - dirty injectors.

It would be worth verifying this, either from other owners with more experience or an engineer. My Perkins has done 5,500 miles now.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN 96 Antigua.


The mistery slick

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Hello,

I'd like your opinion on this engine issue.

When we bought the boat in 2012, about every 30 seconds you could see a drop of oil come out from underwater, on the boat's exhaust.  Like a flower opening, you saw a dot which then became a small circle.  The engine had 2000 hrs.

The engine now has 3,525 hours.  Some people think the white smoke that comes out of it is normal, but I think it is a bit much.  But what worries me is that the oil in the water is not acceptable.  I am pretty sure the other boats don't do this.  Look at the attached photo, taken 5 minutes after the engine was turned off.  Zero oil on the port side, and zero oil around the surrounding boats.

Some stats from the last 58 hours of engine use (from eastern Crete to Hyères, with stops along the way, 1171 miles if we had motored in straight lines, but we obviously sailed most of the way):
 - fuel consumed: 310 liters (includes 6 hours of genset use at 3/4 load)
 - oil added: 1/2 of 1 quart

Many thanks in advance for your thoughts.  I've asked for a mechanic to come by to see the 100HP Yanmar.

Cheers,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350 (2002)
Hyères


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transport of SM from Australia to Suez/Turkey

Donato Valente
 

Many thanks Mark.
I'm in touch with them.
Regards
Donato 

SM #468 Ocean Bird
Raiatea FP


On 19 April 2018 at 17:23, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I second SevenStar.  I have not used their services but I did get a quote from them last year for moving a SM from Europe to the USA.  It was competitive with some of the other quotes I got but they were by far the most helpful and responsive.  I was given their name from Bill Rouse from BeBe.  He used them back in 2011 and was very pleased with them.  You can read his blog post about it here:  http://svbebe.blogspot.com/search?q=sevenstar


As a bonus, they are familiar with Amels and are willing and able to use the deck level lifting eyes on the SM which will make the process much simpler to prepare the boat for transport.  My contact was Jan Maarten: jmb at sevenstar-yacht-transport.com

Mark
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
 




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: B&G Masthead Unit 213

karkauai
 

Thanks Duane, I'm on it!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 22, 2018, at 2:09 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,


I sent you an email, but if anyone else is interested, be sure you have the B&G model #213.  This model has 10 pins in the connector: 3 pins in the top row, four pins in the second row, and  3 pins in the bottom row.  There was a 7 pin connector from 1996, then the 213 10-pin connector, and assorted others.  See:  http://www.tinleyelectronics.com/bandg/masthead%20unit%20tests.pdf

It's a "Buy it Now" set price ebay item, no bidding.  First come first served.

Duane,
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: B&G Masthead Unit 213

Duane Siegfri
 

It is sold.


Re: B&G Masthead Unit 213

Duane Siegfri
 

Kent,

I sent you an email, but if anyone else is interested, be sure you have the B&G model #213.  This model has 10 pins in the connector: 3 pins in the top row, four pins in the second row, and  3 pins in the bottom row.  There was a 7 pin connector from 1996, then the 213 10-pin connector, and assorted others.  See:  http://www.tinleyelectronics.com/bandg/masthead%20unit%20tests.pdf

It's a "Buy it Now" set price ebay item, no bidding.  First come first served.

Duane,
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu 46 Owner's Manual

smiles bernard
 

Hi there
I don’t have the manual but do have some other docs that might be of interest
Attached incase of use to you or others

All the best
Miles 
Maramu






















On 21 Apr 2018, at 23:47, dwentworth@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 I have searched this forum and online for an owner's manual for the Maramu 46. Does anyone here have a digitized or pdf copy they are willing to share?


Re: B&G Masthead Unit 213

karkauai
 

Hi Duane. I've tried to contact you by group reply and privately, nothing seems to be getting out. I'd like to purchase your masthead unit if it's compatible with my Hydra2000 control unit (circa 1999).
Please contact me at karkauai "at" yahoo "dot" com
Thanks
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Wilmington NC, St Michaels MD in about a week


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

pepinoamel <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Leo,


Thanks for the drawing.  Hopefully Maude can locate some sheaves for me in La Rochelle.


Gerhard Hoffmann

SY Pepino SM381

Greece


Maramu 46 Owner's Manual

dwentworth@...
 

 I have searched this forum and online for an owner's manual for the Maramu 46. Does anyone here have a digitized or pdf copy they are willing to share?


Re: B&G Masthead Unit 213

pjn.mccallin@...
 

Sorry Duane, am not sure if my messages are being sent to you, can you contact me direct on pjn.mccallin
@gmail.com please. 
Am interested in your M H U but can not locate it on EBay, can you please provide the reference number,
Thanks Patrick Caramelle 385.
Have tried a number of times to contact you, !!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill , Going to Home Depot tomorrow , if I don't find the one Bill bought there , I will look yours up on Amazon.
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2018 10:06 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 
Pat,

I can not add anything to the discussion on the details of the switch, since my boat has been retrofitted there, but I I had a list of "tools for a boat, and included the wire tracer I have used to good effect.


Bill Kinney
Benett Harbor, Cat Island, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

Leopold Hauer
 

Hi  Duane

I have made the Drawing in Le Marin at Amel. That is what Amel Sales.
Best regards


Leopold

Yinyang, SM #69


 meinem iPad gesendet

Am 20.04.2018 um 16:18 schrieb sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Leopold,


From my memory I don't think the sheaves are 100mm in diameter on my boat (almost 4 inches), do I read your sketch correctly?  Perhaps it's the difference in the hull numbers?

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


B&G Masthead Unit 213

Duane Siegfri
 

I've removed the B&G Masthead Unit in the switchover to a NMEA 2000 electronics system.  I puchased this one right after Hurricane Irma ruined our old one in November of 2017.  So this one is only 5 months old and ready for a new Owner.  It's listed on Ebay if anyone is interested at less than half of the new price.


If you want a spare for your system, this is as good a deal as you'll find.  Nearly new and half the price.


Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

Duane Siegfri
 

Leopold,

From my memory I don't think the sheaves are 100mm in diameter on my boat (almost 4 inches), do I read your sketch correctly?  Perhaps it's the difference in the hull numbers?

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Balooner usage advice

smiles bernard
 

Thanks so much for all the thoughts and advice. Really helpful as always on this great forum 
I’m on the boat at the moment for the first time since Christmas and have a list of ‘to dos’ as long as my arm (at which point the ink ran out!) 
I’m here till tues am when I fly home again  then the family and I all head out hear again in July to start a cruise. 
I’ve taken my old main set of sails to a local sailmaker that a local friend recommended ( Luis in Tenerife -happy to share his number just shout)

and hoping to get some time tomorrow to get the other sails out work out a plan

Strangely on my Maramu a previous owner installed a removable staysail stay. Seems a bit weird to me as even though it’s only for a small storm sail I’m not that keen on the fact it has no equivalent backstay support.  
But it does have a deck fitting / attachment point fwd of the windlass. So if I did go for a removable forestay I would cannibalise the removable staysail bits.

I’ll look more closely at my set up and then weigh that in with lots of good advice from you guys to use what I’ve got rigging wise 😉


I’ll let you know what I opt for in the end and thanks again for help and advice 

All the best

Miles


On 19 Apr 2018, at 12:04, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Miles,


   I have used the Ballooner on Sueño a few times now.  My boat also just has two grooves so once I hoist the ballooner up the second groove using my spare halyard, I am unable to furl either the ballooner or the genoa until the ballooner has been lowered. Perhaps this limitation is what Eric is referring to in his post.  Because of this limitation,  I have so far always taken the ballooner down before dark and only used it during stable conditions.  

Best,

James
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Apr 18, 2018, at 11:40 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Miles,

Without the triple groove plus thes pecial gadget at the top of the headstay you can’t use the ballooner.

 

I find  it much easier to fly a 1400-1500 sq foot gennaker in a sock, works like a charm’

Fair Winds

 

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 4:13 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Balooner usage advice

 

  

Hello there

I’m new to the Amel way and have been learning lots from this fabulous forum as I get to know my older 1985 Maramu 

I’m still unsure of a the best approach to my downwind rig and would benefit hugely from this groups thoughts and experience of getting the best from the balooner sail. 

Thus far I have been moving toward the option of adding a 2nd removable forestay on my older Maramu. Positioned as close to the furling Genoa as possible and as high up the mast as possible to avoid running back stays. 

I’d use his mainly for a twin headsail downwind set up with independence between the furler and a smaller 80-90% jib poled to windward. 

I’ve used this setup before and like it lots I chose it over the option of hoisting two sails up the furler luff groove and loved its simplicity, independence of sails, provision of a spare forestay, ability to set a storm sail etc etc

But on the group lots of people advice is to not change anything on these well though out and well tested boats and I presume my old Maramu has sailed the World already without these changes 😊

So ..... considering other options ....apparently the large spinnaker looking sail lurking in my locker is a balooner. 

How do people use these?

Just in combination with the Genoa as a double headsail rig or also on its own downwind wind (perhaps with the mizzen goose winged) ?

It’s worth pointing out that unfortunately I do not have the Amel furler but a profurl electric number with only 2 luff grooves. So I don’t have the wonderful 3 luff groove independent sail hoisting and lowering option available to most of you lucky chaps! 

My concern with the balooner plus Genoa is that I will be short handed with kids aboard and given my profurl furler would have to hoist and lower the balooner and Genoa on the same halyard Ie unfurl a massive total sail area if I had problems and needed to get sails down. 

Thoughts and hard won experience very much appreciated

Fair winds 

Miles 
Maramu #162



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