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Re: Wind vane steering

Alan Leslie
 

Agree absolutely Bill.
We only hand steer in and out of marinas, o'wise its the AP ALL the time.
My previous boat was a sloop with the wheel well aft which made wind van steering easy. We had a Fleming on the stern and we sailed 000's of miles with him, with only occasional breakages, mostly due to the boat being overpowered. As you say, sail balance is VERY important with a  wind vane, and good sail balance will also minimise the power consumption of your AP.
On a centre cockpit ketch like an SM, running the lines from a windvane on the stern to the wheel becomes quite complicated. Windvanes are very susceptible to friction in the steering line route which makes it difficult to implement successfully when the wheel is so far forward, although I suppose if you were really keen you could use the emergency tiller and run the steering lines to that....but really ? why bother, when you have plenty of electrical power.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you store your tools?

Alan Leslie
 

We have two tool boxes under the bottom step of the companion way. We also converted the upper two steps into small lockers, with oval openings 2/3 the way up the front. The top one has simple immediate access tools, pliers, screwdrivers + & -, pliers, knife, etc and spare winch handles, the middle one is used as a shoe locker.
Other toolboxes segregated in to adhesives / sealants, drill bits / taps and dies, electrical stuff, bolts nuts and screws are below the floor in the forward cabin and in the cupboard that accesses the chain locker.
The starboard forward under bunk is crammed with spare parts, filters etc etc.....it all works well for us.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Wind vane steering

greatketch@...
 

Miles,

I would not sail across an ocean with ONE autopilot.  Not just ONE mechanical AP, not just ONE electric AP.  I have had both fail types--in the middle of the ocean--in ways that were not repairable at sea.  Days of hand steering by a shorthanded crew is NOT my idea of fun!

On our SM we have two autopilot computers, and three drives, One chain, one installed linear drive, and one spare linear drive in a locker.  Seems like overkill, but that's the way she came to us, and we do like the redundancy.  In 20K miles we have had one linear drive failure, and it was very nice to have a working replacement that was ready to drop in in 20 minutes.  The broken one was overhauled, and is now our spare.

If I was equipping my current boat from scratch, I would likely have one electric AP system, and a Hydrovane.  The ultimate advantage of a Hydrovane is that it works, even if I get hit by lightening, my batteries are flat,  my main rudder steering system fails, or... whatever.

For people starting from scratch, a mechanical wind vane can be a challenge.  It puts a premium on sail balance, and trim that an electric AP just powers on through. It sounds like you have enough experience with windvanes to have gotten past that steep part of that  learning curve.

One the other hand...  in praise of the electric systems we have, the amount of time I hand steer is miniscule.  The AP is almost always on, and I am basically "flying by wire" all the time.  Push-button sailing at its best.  I actually hand steer in only in marinas, and for the last few minutes as we drop the anchor.  Our AP system probably has 10 or 20 times the number of hours on it as our engine does.  I suspect, if I had a Hydrovane installed, I might still be lazy enough to use the electric most of the time... but a windvane sure can be amazingly hypnotic to watch work... like magic!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Manjack Cay, Abacos, Bahamas



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM2000 salon table dimension and yanmar impeller puller tool

James Cromie
 

thank you!

On Mar 24, 2018, at 9:09 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I can answer Question #1:  33 inches x 52 inches



Re: Wind vane steering

Ian Park
 

My Santorin had a Hydrovane fitted for an ARC crossing in 2009. I have an SPX 30 driving the Raymarine 200 rotary drive. The Hydrovane is great ie quiet and no battery drain. I also carry a spare rotary drive which I got on eBay. It takes 10 minutes to exchange the drive unit! So have never contemplate any other drive unit.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96 Antigua


Re: Wind vane steering

Craig Briggs
 

Our Raymarine Type 2 Rotary lasted 40,000 miles. Last year got a new one as old one was no longer supported for repair and had started to overheat and drop out. New one seems as bulletproof as original. Originally controlled by the Autohelm 7000 that Amel installed at factory, now by new B&G stuff, but it's the Raymarine motor that does the work and is totally reliable. Wouldn't hesitate to do another trans-Atlantic with the new unit and no Hyro-Vane. No spares needed in first many years of service, IMHO. 
Fair winds, Craig Briggs, SN#68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <smilesbernard@...> wrote :

Hi there

Before my Maramu on a small long keeler I had a Monitor wind vane /autohelm and sailed extensively with it. It was truly brilliant. One of my favourite things on the boat.

I’ve also sailed a lot on a family boat long distance with a Hydrovane. Also excellent and adds an emergency rudder to the list of positives and no control lines either 👍


So I always assumed I’d only ever sail long distance with a similar steering device.
But
My 1985 Maramu has no such purely mechanical wonders. Instead it has some complex electronics 😎 I’ve inherited with the boat

(a Raymarine spx corepack apparently. It looks ok and seems to work well. Perhaps 7 yrs a old )

I believe the bigger SMs have backup electric autopilots which sounds like a great idea but I don’t have this on my Maramu.

I’ll be sailing across the Atlantic and perhaps further with my wife and 2 young children
The thought of potential autohelm problems whilst short handed are making me consider a mechanical wind vane. The hydrovane specifically.

Having never owned an electronic autopilot before I’d value this groups experience wrt reliability and spares carried. I believe they are largely ‘sealed units’ so tend to just work. Or not!


Many thanks for any thoughts or experience offered.

Miles



Wind vane steering

smiles bernard
 

Hi there

Before my Maramu on a small long keeler I had a Monitor wind vane /autohelm and sailed extensively with it. It was truly brilliant. One of my favourite things on the boat.

I’ve also sailed a lot on a family boat long distance with a Hydrovane. Also excellent and adds an emergency rudder to the list of positives and no control lines either 👍


So I always assumed I’d only ever sail long distance with a similar steering device.
But
My 1985 Maramu has no such purely mechanical wonders. Instead it has some complex electronics 😎 I’ve inherited with the boat

(a Raymarine spx corepack apparently. It looks ok and seems to work well. Perhaps 7 yrs a old )

I believe the bigger SMs have backup electric autopilots which sounds like a great idea but I don’t have this on my Maramu.

I’ll be sailing across the Atlantic and perhaps further with my wife and 2 young children
The thought of potential autohelm problems whilst short handed are making me consider a mechanical wind vane. The hydrovane specifically.

Having never owned an electronic autopilot before I’d value this groups experience wrt reliability and spares carried. I believe they are largely ‘sealed units’ so tend to just work. Or not!


Many thanks for any thoughts or experience offered.

Miles


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you store your tools?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Ryan,

Since you are in the US, you have lots of choice.
I purchase the boxed from Home Depot
http://www.nikimat.com/cockpit_locker_storage/cockpit_locker_storage_11.jpg
They are very easy to slide and above them you can put a few more things.

I also bought lots of boxes call: “really useful box” from Office Depot.
They have many sizes… the “4 Liters” are very useful, you can put 4 under the flood in front of the fridge (in the space above the water tank).
Then you can also slide 2 from the flood board to the space below the washing machine.
One day, when I have more time, I will make an illustration.

Alexandre



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On Sun, 3/25/18, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you store your tools?
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 25, 2018, 1:38 PM


 









Thank you all for the info! 
This has given me a lot of ideas.  I think more than
anything, I need to rework my organization.  Some quality
toolboxes would go a long way.
Thanks,RyanSM 233 IterationBoston, MA,
USA


On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at
7:47 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Good morning Ryan,

I had 2 sets of tools (1 for inside 1 for outside).

The outside was located in the cockpit storage.

Difficult to see on the 1st picture, but was in the white
box covered by a black mat.

If you look from the left you see life jacket, then type 4
(which is on top of the scuba compressor), then come a white
box for the tools. So easy to grab especially in the engine
room.

I would first take the mat and put on the floor (ie cockpit)
then put tools I use on.

http://www.nikimat.com/
storage_compartment_clip_ organization.html

Actually here on the 9 and 10th picture you see the
tools.

http://www.nikimat.com/
cockpit_locker_storage.html

Also some more in the boxes below.

Inside set of tools were under the floor board.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 3/24/18, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@gmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you store your
tools?

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com

Date: Saturday, March 24, 2018, 3:18 PM





 



















Hi all,I'm wondering

where you store all your tools.  I feel like most of us
are

very handy, so we must have a lot of them.  I use many
of

my tools on a near-daily basis, so I like to keep them

easily accessible.  I've filled both of the drawers

beneath the starboard settee, and I still have more
tools

that need homes!  Is there some awesome storage place I

haven't thought of?  Where do you keep

yours?

Thanks,RyanSM 233 IterationBoston, MA,

USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rats!

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi,

Some years ago we were anchored at a Pacific Island (forget which) and we were approached by an owner from a nearby boat. He had a rat aboard his rather scruffy boat and wanted help with ideas of how to catch/remove said rat. He had tried traps and every thing else he could think of. We suggested the sticky trap popular as a household trap in the pacific and available at food stores. It is a board with adhesive on it. You place the bait in the middle. The rat walks on to it to get the bait and gets stuck. Then you pick up the board and dispose of the rat. I have seen it work in land base Bure accommodation. He had tried that. In the morning he found a sheet of paper over the adhesive and the bait gone. Now that was some rat!!

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 25 March 2018 at 13:35 "Trifin trifin@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

This is how to catch Sammy.

 


 


X


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you store your tools?

Ryan Meador
 

Thank you all for the info!  This has given me a lot of ideas.  I think more than anything, I need to rework my organization.  Some quality toolboxes would go a long way.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 7:47 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good morning Ryan,
I had 2 sets of tools (1 for inside 1 for outside).
The outside was located in the cockpit storage.
Difficult to see on the 1st picture, but was in the white box covered by a black mat.
If you look from the left you see life jacket, then type 4 (which is on top of the scuba compressor), then come a white box for the tools. So easy to grab especially in the engine room.
I would first take the mat and put on the floor (ie cockpit) then put tools I use on.
http://www.nikimat.com/storage_compartment_clip_organization.html
Actually here on the 9 and 10th picture you see the tools.
http://www.nikimat.com/cockpit_locker_storage.html
Also some more in the boxes below.
Inside set of tools were under the floor board.
Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sat, 3/24/18, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you store your tools?
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 24, 2018, 3:18 PM


 









Hi all,I'm wondering
where you store all your tools.  I feel like most of us are
very handy, so we must have a lot of them.  I use many of
my tools on a near-daily basis, so I like to keep them
easily accessible.  I've filled both of the drawers
beneath the starboard settee, and I still have more tools
that need homes!  Is there some awesome storage place I
haven't thought of?  Where do you keep
yours?
Thanks,RyanSM 233 IterationBoston, MA,
USA





Time to everything turns, turns

alainfeuillet@...
 

Hello Amelian friends,

we have been sailing the Aegean sea 6 months a year from October to April since 2011. PILGRIM, Super Maramu #26 bought in 2011, has been a fantastic sailing vessel allowing us to meet so nice Greek sailors, fishermen, boat-taximen and "countrymen". In the continuation of our boat's name, we visited one or two hundred monasteries and holy places, not mentionning wonderfull museums being historical, prehistorical or nautical.

Although the Super Maramu equipments allow to sail in confort and safety for ageing people, it is time for us to drop our bag on land and to allow PILGRIM to go on riding the sea for somebody's else pleasure.
Since 2011, I found  in this forum more than what I needed to use and maintain her in a very good shape. All my words will be far from being sufficient to thank all and every contributor of this wonderfull forum. Thanks and thanks again.

One can find my selling advert, contacts and photos following the link http://78.220.155.91:53188/share/skwdP_tRqxO5tkHa/

I wish the best to this forum and to each of you dear friends.

Fair winds

Your friend, "Nemo"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you store your tools?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Ryan,
I had 2 sets of tools (1 for inside 1 for outside).
The outside was located in the cockpit storage.
Difficult to see on the 1st picture, but was in the white box covered by a black mat.
If you look from the left you see life jacket, then type 4 (which is on top of the scuba compressor), then come a white box for the tools. So easy to grab especially in the engine room.
I would first take the mat and put on the floor (ie cockpit) then put tools I use on.
http://www.nikimat.com/storage_compartment_clip_organization.html
Actually here on the 9 and 10th picture you see the tools.
http://www.nikimat.com/cockpit_locker_storage.html
Also some more in the boxes below.
Inside set of tools were under the floor board.
Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 3/24/18, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you store your tools?
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 24, 2018, 3:18 PM


 









Hi all,I'm wondering
where you store all your tools.  I feel like most of us are
very handy, so we must have a lot of them.  I use many of
my tools on a near-daily basis, so I like to keep them
easily accessible.  I've filled both of the drawers
beneath the starboard settee, and I still have more tools
that need homes!  Is there some awesome storage place I
haven't thought of?  Where do you keep
yours?
Thanks,RyanSM 233 IterationBoston, MA,
USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowthruster spinning

Bob Grey
 

Paul, I did it 2 years ago, and apart from the one Allen key bolt behind the motor it was pretty straight forward and yes I believe the 54 and 55 have the same setup.,, 

I think the reason for dropping the thruster was to make it easier to stand in the hatch to hold the motor, there were some electrical cables to undo as well but I didn’t have a replacement guide, it was a trial by logic replacement process. It took about two hours.

On Sunday, March 25, 2018, 01:48, sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Bob,
Looks like the attachment didn't upload. I have now uploaded a file "Bowthruster flex coupling replacement.pdf"
Paul


Re: Rats!

greatketch@...
 

Although rats do love to chew on things, they do not chew on metal. Unraveling a stainless steel pot scrubber, and stuffing in around the edges would make a pretty good barrier, not interfere with air flow, be cheap, and easy to renew if needed.

Here in the Bahamas, keeping connected while moving around is pretty easy.  We have a Batelco sim card for the phone, and have had a useful connection almost everywhere.  Most of the more popular anchorages on the populated islands have coverage by Bahamas Wireless, and, of course, if we are in a Marina, they usually have wifi.  

Other than the Bahamas, we have had good luck with local SIM cards, and wifi.  When we do come across a place without any connectivity... we relax and enjoy the peace!

For greater reach on our wifi signal, we have a Wirie range extender which works well. www.thewirie.com  
 
Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Guana Cay, Abacos, Bahamas


Re: Amel SM2000 salon table dimension and yanmar impeller puller tool

greatketch@...
 

I can answer Question #1:  33 inches x 52 inches


Re: Rats!

Dean Gillies
 

This is how to catch Sammy.


Sent from my iPhone X


Re: Rats!

Duane Siegfri
 

The thing that really amused me about this is the marina manager made a big point about "We do not have a rat problem", followed by their history of rat problems (building next door demolished, construction at the marina, etc.), so I noted that Wanderer has never had crew, much less a rat problem, but we do now after docking in your marina...

I think we're going to be friends.
Duane


Amel SM2000 salon table dimension and yanmar impeller puller tool

James Cromie
 

I have two simple question to ask SM2000 owners:

1. What is the dimension of the salon table?  I am desiring to get a PVC covering to protect the wood.  


2. What are the specs. for the tool needed to pull the raw water impeller on the Yanmar turbo diesel model 4-JH3-TE.  


Albon, the Amel tech in Le Marin kindly let me borrow a puller that he had, though I'd like to have one on board, and I'm no longer on my boat to measure anything!


Thank you all. 


James

Soteria

SM2000 #347

Le Marin

 




Re: Rats!

Paul Osterberg
 

We have had a rat aboard on one of our previous boats, We notice one morning that it had eaten on all apples and most of the tomato’s. Obviously it had walked maybe 15 m on our stern line ( med mooring) aboard our vessel. We had it aboard for a few days before we got hold of a rat trap then We manage to caugt it with a standard spring rat trap rather easy.
From now one we always carry a rat trap. In the med we have on more than one occasion noticed  rat droppings in the cockpit, fortunately the rat has not been able to penetrate our moskito net. Have not thought of protecting the “entrance” behind the Amel logo.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you store your tools?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ryan,
I have two long plastic bins in the open floor tray under the chart table where I keep my need it now tools. Pliers screwdrivers, hammer, wire cutters shifting spanners etc etc Under the first blue floor nearest section l keep spare oil and fuel filters and vee belts and my grease gun. The second section has a big double sided bin with multitudinous screws of all sizes on one side and bolts on the other. Also a container with all sizes of stainless hose clamps Also a pack of sockets and ring spanners. The second blue floor first section has a wide variety of spares, hose connections etc. The forward section contains my serious tools in a bag. Plus two socket sets 3/8 drive and 1/2 inch drive etc etc. I keep my cordless drill and my 4inch angle grinder in the bottom of the aft cabin wardrobe.
Of course I have not listed all my tools.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

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On 25 Mar 2018 9:18 a.m., "Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
I'm wondering where you store all your tools.  I feel like most of us are very handy, so we must have a lot of them.  I use many of my tools on a near-daily basis, so I like to keep them easily accessible.  I've filled both of the drawers beneath the starboard settee, and I still have more tools that need homes!  Is there some awesome storage place I haven't thought of?  Where do you keep yours?

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA

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