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Re: Galley stove replacement

Richard May
 

Jean-Pierre,
Do you have a standard battery install (amp/hrs)?  And, do you plug in the cooktop to one of the standard outlets or did you run special wire to the stove area to handle the large amount of current?
--
Richard May
SM 477 Avogato


Re: Galley stove replacement

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi Richard,

Somehow, the comments were lost..

Pic1:  shows suction cups
Pic2:  induction cooktop resting on Corian counter
Pic3:  vertical photo. Forward part is at top
Pic4:  induction unit resting on the GN grate. 

Very practical setup… large inverter needed. Ours is 3KW 

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, Opua NZ




On 25 Jul 2021, at 12:39, Richard May via groups.io <airwisrich2000@...> wrote:

Ooh, that is super nice.  Thank you for the pix.  I am receiving my GN Espace this week and should have some photos to follow.
--
Richard May
SM 477 Avogato


Re: Galley stove replacement

Richard May
 

Ooh, that is super nice.  Thank you for the pix.  I am receiving my GN Espace this week and should have some photos to follow.
--
Richard May
SM 477 Avogato


Re: Main hatch

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Nick 
Already done:)  Works like I experienced on your DarNico.
Perfect and simple. Once it is set at the right tension you do not need to touch or turn the black nuts again.
(Maybe once in a  while a little added tension)

Just like Henry Amel intended it I would think.
No difficult systems. I just needed to sharpen the edges of the retaining groove as they flattened a bit over the years.

A little silicon spray and the varnish doesn't scratch:)

Thanks for the reminder

Rgrds
Eric 
sv Abayomi
SM 158


Re: Fuel Stick

 

Pat,

Sorry, I did not answer your question. What happens inside the macerator pump when the seal starts leaking is saltwater gets into the motor wiring and inside the motor case. 

With the electric toilet Flush/Empty switches in the OFF position, the negative of the 24v house bank is still connected to the motor. Only the positive wire is switched with the switches. The saltwater creates continuity between the negative and the motor case. The bonding wire is connected to the motor case. Saltwater bridges the bonding to the negative side of the house bank and you have a negative leak.

You would only have a positive leak when the motor is energized by the switch.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 4:57 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill, Yes that is what I remember you said, but I was wondering if that leak only occurred while being operated. I assume that the electric current travels thru the water in the intake hose to the sea and would be broken once the hose was empty of sea water ?? I wish my boat came with the Mass. Is there somewhere in the file section that explains how to detect a leak using a volt meter. I am not sure I have done it correctly in the past.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

Pat,

I probably did not make myself clear regarding the electric toilets. I later model SMs and all models from the 54 onward, Amel installed a current leak detector (MASS). It is a small toggle switch and LED which will test for a connection between the house bank positive and Bonding as well as the house bank negative and bonding.

When a failure is indicated by the LED, it is almost always caused by a failed seal on the macerator pump on the toilet, unless of course if someone has made some change or addition to the wiring anywhere on the boat.

This is what it looks like on a 54:
image.png

Snippet from my book:
image.png

In your case without the Amel-designed testing device, I think you can do this to see if you have a leak...finding it will be another chapter...let me know.
image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 2:13 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill , That is why I asked, I thought it may present a problem . I suppose I could cap the end or keep it out of the tank and store it elsewhere. 
You may remember that I have been eating up my zincs faster than normal. You have said that the electric toilets are a source of electrical leak. Does that occur only when you run it ,have the switch on? Maybe I should email yo direct or put it a new thread.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Fuel Stick

Patrick McAneny
 

Danny ,I wish I could ,but it broke into many pieces , some still in the tank. I hope they won't be a problem down the road. 
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

Hi Pat, I am sure it is possible to repair the fuel dip sick. I haven't done it but a wrap of fiberglass cloth and resin should do it with good cleaning beforehand eg with acetone.
Kind Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 25 July 2021 at 07:13 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Bill , That is why I asked, I thought it may present a problem . I suppose I could cap the end or keep it out of the tank and store it elsewhere. 
You may remember that I have been eating up my zincs faster than normal. You have said that the electric toilets are a source of electrical leak. Does that occur only when you run it ,have the switch on? Maybe I should email yo direct or put it a new thread.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32= aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
 
 


Re: Fuel Stick

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill, Yes that is what I remember you said, but I was wondering if that leak only occurred while being operated. I assume that the electric current travels thru the water in the intake hose to the sea and would be broken once the hose was empty of sea water ?? I wish my boat came with the Mass. Is there somewhere in the file section that explains how to detect a leak using a volt meter. I am not sure I have done it correctly in the past.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

Pat,

I probably did not make myself clear regarding the electric toilets. I later model SMs and all models from the 54 onward, Amel installed a current leak detector (MASS). It is a small toggle switch and LED which will test for a connection between the house bank positive and Bonding as well as the house bank negative and bonding.

When a failure is indicated by the LED, it is almost always caused by a failed seal on the macerator pump on the toilet, unless of course if someone has made some change or addition to the wiring anywhere on the boat.

This is what it looks like on a 54:
image.png

Snippet from my book:
image.png

In your case without the Amel-designed testing device, I think you can do this to see if you have a leak...finding it will be another chapter...let me know.
image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 2:13 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill , That is why I asked, I thought it may present a problem . I suppose I could cap the end or keep it out of the tank and store it elsewhere. 
You may remember that I have been eating up my zincs faster than normal. You have said that the electric toilets are a source of electrical leak. Does that occur only when you run it ,have the switch on? Maybe I should email yo direct or put it a new thread.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: D3-110 Starter Earthing Relay Part Number Request

ngtnewington Newington
 

As for the water pump located above the 12v alternator. There is a shelf or drip tray under the raw water pump. I place a dark napkin under the pump on this tray. When, not if, the pump starts to drip you will see white salt crystals on the napkin. Time to change the pump seals.
In my experience it always happens gradually. Only if you ignore the drip will the alternator get salty wet..
Nick
S/Y Amelia
AML 54-019 
Skylos Gr


On 24 Jul 2021, at 15:05, Dominique Sery via groups.io <dominiquesery@...> wrote:

Totally agree with you, the seawater pump is really badly placed
Dominique


Re: Fuel Stick

 

Pat,

I probably did not make myself clear regarding the electric toilets. I later model SMs and all models from the 54 onward, Amel installed a current leak detector (MASS). It is a small toggle switch and LED which will test for a connection between the house bank positive and Bonding as well as the house bank negative and bonding.

When a failure is indicated by the LED, it is almost always caused by a failed seal on the macerator pump on the toilet, unless of course if someone has made some change or addition to the wiring anywhere on the boat.

This is what it looks like on a 54:
image.png

Snippet from my book:
image.png

In your case without the Amel-designed testing device, I think you can do this to see if you have a leak...finding it will be another chapter...let me know.
image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 2:13 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill , That is why I asked, I thought it may present a problem . I suppose I could cap the end or keep it out of the tank and store it elsewhere. 
You may remember that I have been eating up my zincs faster than normal. You have said that the electric toilets are a source of electrical leak. Does that occur only when you run it ,have the switch on? Maybe I should email yo direct or put it a new thread.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Fuel Stick

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Pat, I am sure it is possible to repair the fuel dip sick. I haven't done it but a wrap of fiberglass cloth and resin should do it with good cleaning beforehand eg with acetone.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 25 July 2021 at 07:13 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Bill , That is why I asked, I thought it may present a problem . I suppose I could cap the end or keep it out of the tank and store it elsewhere. 
You may remember that I have been eating up my zincs faster than normal. You have said that the electric toilets are a source of electrical leak. Does that occur only when you run it ,have the switch on? Maybe I should email yo direct or put it a new thread.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32= aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
 
 


Re: Fuel Stick

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill , That is why I asked, I thought it may present a problem . I suppose I could cap the end or keep it out of the tank and store it elsewhere. 
You may remember that I have been eating up my zincs faster than normal. You have said that the electric toilets are a source of electrical leak. Does that occur only when you run it ,have the switch on? Maybe I should email yo direct or put it a new thread.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Fuel Stick

 

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Fuel Stick

Patrick McAneny
 

I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Seacock for aft head

Patrick McAneny
 

Mark, I thought it may not be NPT,that is why I asked.
Thank You,
Pat
SM Shenanigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Seacock for aft head

Pat,
 
Not NPT.  It is 1 ¼” BSP
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
www.creampuff.us
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 3:36 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Seacock for aft head
 
I need to replace my seacock in the aft head ,could someone confirm the size I need ,I believe it to be 1 1/4" NPT , but not sure and I want to purchase it prior to taking the old one out ,as my boat is in the water.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans #123
Sassafras River, Md.


Re: There is a spring on the companionway locking bar

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Bob,

Thanks also to you for the suggestions and ideas. Really great, this forum, for these kind of issues 
I the mean time please know I used the springs as on DarNico which I visited earlier last year searching for my SM
It is simple and easy.
It works now fine with me too. Maybe an extra sliding lock pin on top later but for now will try this.
See also the message I send to DarNico with the photos

Far winds and safe sailing

Eric
sv Abayomi
SM 158
Rotterdam


Re: Seacock for aft head

Mark Erdos
 

Pat,

 

Not NPT.  It is 1 ¼” BSP

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 3:36 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Seacock for aft head

 

I need to replace my seacock in the aft head ,could someone confirm the size I need ,I believe it to be 1 1/4" NPT , but not sure and I want to purchase it prior to taking the old one out ,as my boat is in the water.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans #123
Sassafras River, Md.


Re: There is a spring on the companionway locking bar

rossirossix4
 

I'm away from KAIMI so I cannot give you a photo but we have a rather large sliding bolt lock on the top inside corner of the companion way slide that was installed by the previous owner.  He also filled in the indentations with wood so the bar would not catch (but the spring idea to hold the bar out is a good idea)  The only time I tighten the black knobs is 1) when I am wanting to lock the door partially up, like when running in large seas or 2) when I leave the boat for an extended time--we also have the external stainless steel padlocks protection device and we use bolt cutter protected locks on those.

There are 2 grooves to fix the 90 bolt "handle" in the open or closed position.  BTW there is a similar massive bolt that allows you to bolt the rear stateroom door from the inside.

Anyway, I really like the bolt, it is strong, super quick, and you don't need to mess with cam locks, etc.  I will try to update this post in a month or two with a photo when I am aboard.

Bob, KAIMI SM429


Main hatch

Nicolas Klene
 

Eric 
I encourage you to try my system with the spring on the outside of the bar applying it against the frame !
it is very easy to open , just tilt the bottom of the bar out of the groove , and let it go down gently by gravity , with a little help retaining it .
To close it , raise it , and the springs will force it into the groove and hold it there !!
No need for any other locking mechanism , it suffise to it self , providing the tension of the spring is not too strong 
Kind regards 
Nicolas 

--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Seacock for aft head

Patrick McAneny
 

I need to replace my seacock in the aft head ,could someone confirm the size I need ,I believe it to be 1 1/4" NPT , but not sure and I want to purchase it prior to taking the old one out ,as my boat is in the water.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans #123
Sassafras River, Md.


Re: D3-110 Starter Earthing Relay Part Number Request

Dominique Sery
 

Totally agree with you, the seawater pump is really badly placed
Dominique

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