Hi Jeff
Of the 4 Amel motors on our 1992 Santorin we have had to replace just one motor, the boom outhaul. This we had to do last year due to water ingress. As Bill said, the Amel motors and housing are well engineered and built to last.
Regards Joe
KhamsinB
--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svbebe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

One more thing Jeff. If you are not working with Joel Potter in Ft. Lauderdale, you should be. He will not sell or list a used Amel that is not right.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Currently, Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svbebe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

Jeff,

I would not be concerned if I were you. It seems to us that the Amel supplied parts are well engineered, readily available, priced right and much better than other versions of the same thing. For instance, the 24 volt furling and outhaul motors can be rebuilt almost anywhere in the world...anywhere that a car starting motor can be rebuilt...I think that is much better than hydraulic furling.

We are half-way around the world on our circumnavigation. On the few times we have needed to order a part, we have always found Amel to be responsive and spot-on accurate. The only criticism I could make is that they only ship FedEx and they only use the most expensive FedEx service requiring a signature. However, I am sure that even this decision by Amel is based on experience. Why would anyone want to save a few bucks if they need it delivered accurately and quickly?

When ever we place an order we go through the boat from stem to stern to see if there is any small part that would be improved by replacement...we order those non-essential parts when we place an order for something we need. For instance, on my last order I ordered 100 of the nylon plugs for the Genoa track. UV Rays had damaged some of these plugs, so for 8 Euros and probably zero incremental FedEx charges I got the replacements. I am not sure that the manufacturer of our previous boat would have had that kind of part available...come to think of it...there were no plugs in our previous boat's Genoa track!

When looking for an Amel try to find one that has been kept 100% Amel without modifications...and look for the kind of care the previous owner gave her...for instance, did he bother to replace those 94 nylon plugs in the Genoa track?

Hope this helps. You can email me privately at svbebe"at"gmail.com

Best,


Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Currently Malaysia



--- In amelyachtowners@..., "jhgeltz" <jeff@> wrote:

My humble greetings to all you Amel owners.

My wife and I are kicking tires on Amel ownership and having spent time on two of them last week, I have many considerations running through my head. One question is with respect to certain components like furler motors, bow thrusters, etc. that one would normally find parts for from the likes of Vetus, Side-Power, Harken, etc. that need to be sourced from only Amel.

My concerns are along the lines of the cost for parts or replacements of this equipment related to a captive audience since the gear is custom built for the boat.

I would appreciate feedback from owners who have experience with the cost and availability of sourcing replacements or parts from Amel for these types of custom components.

Thank you.

Jeff

Did you just replace the motor or did you have a motor with the switching contacts (little spring, wire terminals, carbon contact, etc.) I have a spare motor but last time I asked Amel if they had that part (for a spare since mine looks a bit sketchy) they said that they did not. Has anybody had any luck finding this?

Bob
Brittany de la Mer Santorin 86 1993

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "joemac4sail" <joemac4sail@> wrote:

Hi Jeff
Of the 4 Amel motors on our 1992 Santorin we have had to replace just one motor, the boom outhaul. This we had to do last year due to water ingress. As Bill said, the Amel motors and housing are well engineered and built to last.
Regards Joe
KhamsinB
--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svbebe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

One more thing Jeff. If you are not working with Joel Potter in Ft. Lauderdale, you should be. He will not sell or list a used Amel that is not right.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Currently, Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svbebe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

Jeff,

I would not be concerned if I were you. It seems to us that the Amel supplied parts are well engineered, readily available, priced right and much better than other versions of the same thing. For instance, the 24 volt furling and outhaul motors can be rebuilt almost anywhere in the world...anywhere that a car starting motor can be rebuilt...I think that is much better than hydraulic furling.

We are half-way around the world on our circumnavigation. On the few times we have needed to order a part, we have always found Amel to be responsive and spot-on accurate. The only criticism I could make is that they only ship FedEx and they only use the most expensive FedEx service requiring a signature. However, I am sure that even this decision by Amel is based on experience. Why would anyone want to save a few bucks if they need it delivered accurately and quickly?

When ever we place an order we go through the boat from stem to stern to see if there is any small part that would be improved by replacement...we order those non-essential parts when we place an order for something we need. For instance, on my last order I ordered 100 of the nylon plugs for the Genoa track. UV Rays had damaged some of these plugs, so for 8 Euros and probably zero incremental FedEx charges I got the replacements. I am not sure that the manufacturer of our previous boat would have had that kind of part available...come to think of it...there were no plugs in our previous boat's Genoa track!

When looking for an Amel try to find one that has been kept 100% Amel without modifications...and look for the kind of care the previous owner gave her...for instance, did he bother to replace those 94 nylon plugs in the Genoa track?

Hope this helps. You can email me privately at svbebe"at"gmail.com

Best,


Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Currently Malaysia



--- In amelyachtowners@..., "jhgeltz" <jeff@> wrote:

My humble greetings to all you Amel owners.

My wife and I are kicking tires on Amel ownership and having spent time on two of them last week, I have many considerations running through my head. One question is with respect to certain components like furler motors, bow thrusters, etc. that one would normally find parts for from the likes of Vetus, Side-Power, Harken, etc. that need to be sourced from only Amel.

My concerns are along the lines of the cost for parts or replacements of this equipment related to a captive audience since the gear is custom built for the boat.

I would appreciate feedback from owners who have experience with the cost and availability of sourcing replacements or parts from Amel for these types of custom components.

Thank you.

Jeff

I think you are describing the carbon brushes for the electric motor. If so, go to any re-builder of automotive starter motors. If the "carbon brush" is not a standard size, they should be able to make one for you...quite common.

There are places on the Internet that will make "custom sized" "carbon brushes." This is one of them: http://www.acecarbon.com/customk.php

Hope this helps,

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "rossirossix4" <rossidesigngroup@> wrote:

Did you just replace the motor or did you have a motor with the switching contacts (little spring, wire terminals, carbon contact, etc.) I have a spare motor but last time I asked Amel if they had that part (for a spare since mine looks a bit sketchy) they said that they did not. Has anybody had any luck finding this?

Bob
Brittany de la Mer Santorin 86 1993

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "joemac4sail" <joemac4sail@> wrote:

Hi Jeff
Of the 4 Amel motors on our 1992 Santorin we have had to replace just one motor, the boom outhaul. This we had to do last year due to water ingress. As Bill said, the Amel motors and housing are well engineered and built to last.
Regards Joe
KhamsinB
--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svbebe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

One more thing Jeff. If you are not working with Joel Potter in Ft. Lauderdale, you should be. He will not sell or list a used Amel that is not right.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Currently, Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svbebe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

Jeff,

I would not be concerned if I were you. It seems to us that the Amel supplied parts are well engineered, readily available, priced right and much better than other versions of the same thing. For instance, the 24 volt furling and outhaul motors can be rebuilt almost anywhere in the world...anywhere that a car starting motor can be rebuilt...I think that is much better than hydraulic furling.

We are half-way around the world on our circumnavigation. On the few times we have needed to order a part, we have always found Amel to be responsive and spot-on accurate. The only criticism I could make is that they only ship FedEx and they only use the most expensive FedEx service requiring a signature. However, I am sure that even this decision by Amel is based on experience. Why would anyone want to save a few bucks if they need it delivered accurately and quickly?

When ever we place an order we go through the boat from stem to stern to see if there is any small part that would be improved by replacement...we order those non-essential parts when we place an order for something we need. For instance, on my last order I ordered 100 of the nylon plugs for the Genoa track. UV Rays had damaged some of these plugs, so for 8 Euros and probably zero incremental FedEx charges I got the replacements. I am not sure that the manufacturer of our previous boat would have had that kind of part available...come to think of it...there were no plugs in our previous boat's Genoa track!

When looking for an Amel try to find one that has been kept 100% Amel without modifications...and look for the kind of care the previous owner gave her...for instance, did he bother to replace those 94 nylon plugs in the Genoa track?

Hope this helps. You can email me privately at svbebe"at"gmail.com

Best,


Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Currently Malaysia



--- In amelyachtowners@..., "jhgeltz" <jeff@> wrote:

My humble greetings to all you Amel owners.

My wife and I are kicking tires on Amel ownership and having spent time on two of them last week, I have many considerations running through my head. One question is with respect to certain components like furler motors, bow thrusters, etc. that one would normally find parts for from the likes of Vetus, Side-Power, Harken, etc. that need to be sourced from only Amel.

My concerns are along the lines of the cost for parts or replacements of this equipment related to a captive audience since the gear is custom built for the boat.

I would appreciate feedback from owners who have experience with the cost and availability of sourcing replacements or parts from Amel for these types of custom components.

Thank you.

Jeff