[Amel] Re: Any Information on Amel Santorin welcome...


Lars H. Knudsen <museum@...>
 

Hi Heike & Hardy



I am the owner of an Amel Santorin from 1993. In my experience very little
can go wrong with this model and it is basically identical to the Super
Maramu except for all the very expensive and maintenance demanding systems
like water maker, air conditioner, generator etc.



My largest problem with my 1993 model was the vinyl inner liner which
eventually got loose from the heat in The Med and did fall off. This has
given me a big job reattaching the vinyl. Besides this I would recommend to
check the engine and sails. And be very careful that there are not made
unauthorized modifications to the electrical system. This can be a nightmare
to fix or rewire as the Amel drawings (in my boat) are hand-made and in
French. This actually goes for all the documentation except the Perkins
engine which is luckily also in English.



I would also recommend to check the servicing of fire extinguishers and life
raft. It will be expensive to renew the life raft if the service is overdue
or the raft is more than 13 years old – which is about the service-life
producers like Zodiac recommends.



Electronics are sturdy and unlikely to fail – ever. But most Santorins got
old instrumentation which is expensive to integrate into newer technology.
If a boat got the old B&G Hercules system you may need to upgrade ROM’s and
buy a special NMEA-capable display in order to connect it to auto pilot etc.
But it is possible.



Hope that this helps.



Good luck with your search. I would recommend an Amel Santorin at any time
to serious sailors.

Lars.



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Hello Judy and Bill...

thanks so much for this long answer... we will extract all nesessary itmes
and will prepare a list of checkouts and questions we will use when visiting
an offered Santorin next time...

Of course AMEL is fantastic... we have seen the AMEL 54 on a fair (BOOT in
Duesseldorf) here in Germany in Jan this year... unfortunatelly our budget
is not so big ;-))) LOLOL so we have to think a little bit smaller... and...
we do not have children so a boat of the Santorin size will be perfect for
us...

Do you know, if there are members out of Germany here in the forum, owning a
Santorin???

And do you have some experience with the people at AMEL itself... who can I
ask for more detailed information about the Santorin...

Again many thanks from Germany and good luck to you and your familiy...

Heike & Hardy...





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hardystock@ymail.com <hardystock@...>
 

Hi Lars...

thans for these information... yesterday we found in the archive of the German YACHT magazine a review of the Santorin of 1993... there we found a lot of new things about that boat, e.g. sailing capabilities, noise of motor and so on... looks really great...

Unfortunatelly, as Amalia Sunto pointed out, there are not so many infos on the web... at least I know that there have been 145 Santorin built till 1997 and the most expensive offer is about 240000 Euro (Amel No 139 from 1997)...

The problem with the vinyl cover is alredy know from the AMEL Sharki... but I have already checked some other Amels on the WEB, doing a circumnavigation, and it seems to me, they so solved the problem by reclueing the vinyl and putting some addtional wood stripes in the edges of the inner boat celling

e.g. look at these nice pictures of an AMEL Ketch

http://www.segelyacht-cayenne.at/bilder/cayenne/index.html

so there might be a solution...

and maybe you can do me a big favour and send me a scan of your original electric wiring scheme... my wife speaks a perfect French and I'm an electronics engineer... so I should be able to read the symbols anyway...

Any other informations or docs are really welcome...

Thanks a lot and best greetings from "Good Old Germany"

Heike & Hardy...

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Lars H. Knudsen" <museum@...> wrote:

Hi Heike & Hardy



I am the owner of an Amel Santorin from 1993. In my experience very little
can go wrong with this model and it is basically identical to the Super
Maramu except for all the very expensive and maintenance demanding systems
like water maker, air conditioner, generator etc.



My largest problem with my 1993 model was the vinyl inner liner which
eventually got loose from the heat in The Med and did fall off. This has
given me a big job reattaching the vinyl. Besides this I would recommend to
check the engine and sails. And be very careful that there are not made
unauthorized modifications to the electrical system. This can be a nightmare
to fix or rewire as the Amel drawings (in my boat) are hand-made and in
French. This actually goes for all the documentation except the Perkins
engine which is luckily also in English.



I would also recommend to check the servicing of fire extinguishers and life
raft. It will be expensive to renew the life raft if the service is overdue
or the raft is more than 13 years old – which is about the service-life
producers like Zodiac recommends.



Electronics are sturdy and unlikely to fail – ever. But most Santorins got
old instrumentation which is expensive to integrate into newer technology.
If a boat got the old B&G Hercules system you may need to upgrade ROM's and
buy a special NMEA-capable display in order to connect it to auto pilot etc.
But it is possible.



Hope that this helps.



Good luck with your search. I would recommend an Amel Santorin at any time
to serious sailors.

Lars.



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Sendt: 22. juni 2010 11:06
Til: amelyachtowners@...
Emne: [Amel] Re: Any Information on Amel Santorin welcome...





Hello Judy and Bill...

thanks so much for this long answer... we will extract all nesessary itmes
and will prepare a list of checkouts and questions we will use when visiting
an offered Santorin next time...

Of course AMEL is fantastic... we have seen the AMEL 54 on a fair (BOOT in
Duesseldorf) here in Germany in Jan this year... unfortunatelly our budget
is not so big ;-))) LOLOL so we have to think a little bit smaller... and...
we do not have children so a boat of the Santorin size will be perfect for
us...

Do you know, if there are members out of Germany here in the forum, owning a
Santorin???

And do you have some experience with the people at AMEL itself... who can I
ask for more detailed information about the Santorin...

Again many thanks from Germany and good luck to you and your familiy...

Heike & Hardy...