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[Amel] Re: Shore Power Cables
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Oh, forgot to address your ? about the 110 circuit. It was added by Amel at the original owner's request and goes through a110-220 transformer before going to the chargers. I have to physically unplug a connection from the 220 power supply and plug it into the 110 power supply at the forward bulkhead in the engine room to use the 30A 110V shore power.
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Kent SM243 KRISTY --- On Wed, 11/10/10, sv Sangaris <sangaris@...> wrote:
From: sv Sangaris <sangaris@...> Subject: [Amel] Re: Shore Power Cables To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 12:34 PM Hey Kent, Sailing south you won't need the heaters - problem solved :-) I'd guess the 110v feed is an add-on by the former US owner of Kristy, not original Amel, correct? What wattage are you drawing on your heaters - many are in the 1800w range. Sounds like you've got more than one - two would present 3600w which at 120v gives you the 30A limit of your cable - no wonder it's hot! If you need the heaters until you go south, can you run a separate additional 110 line out to the dock for one of the heaters? ... or get a 220v heater? Seems you really needn't rip into the Amel wiring at all. Cheers, Craig [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
Kent, we did away with the "Amel plug in solution") we installed an 1800 Watt
inverter working off the 24 volt batteries and ran a wire from the inverter to the 110 volt box. We took out the 110 volt power supply coil that by the way is always hot. Changed the battery charger to a 90 to 260 volt, 80 amp 50/60 cycle charger. Kept the same input wire. This modification allows us to plug in anyplace in the world without worry. We just need the correct plug ends for all those different counties/harbors. It made life much easier traveling the world. We can plug in 110 stuff when we need it without having to go into the engine room and we can use 220 for some things like our coffee maker, toaster and vac. And yes the washer needs to have gen set running. good luck. Richard on SM 209 it's for sale. ________________________________ From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wed, November 10, 2010 2:54:16 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Shore Power Cables Oh, forgot to address your ? about the 110 circuit. It was added by Amel at the original owner's request and goes through a110-220 transformer before going to the chargers. I have to physically unplug a connection from the 220 power supply and plug it into the 110 power supply at the forward bulkhead in the engine room to use the 30A 110V shore power. Kent SM243 KRISTY --- On Wed, 11/10/10, sv Sangaris <sangaris@...> wrote: From: sv Sangaris <sangaris@...> Subject: [Amel] Re: Shore Power Cables To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 12:34 PM Hey Kent, Sailing south you won't need the heaters - problem solved :-) I'd guess the 110v feed is an add-on by the former US owner of Kristy, not original Amel, correct? What wattage are you drawing on your heaters - many are in the 1800w range. Sounds like you've got more than one - two would present 3600w which at 120v gives you the 30A limit of your cable - no wonder it's hot! If you need the heaters until you go south, can you run a separate additional 110 line out to the dock for one of the heaters? ... or get a 220v heater? Seems you really needn't rip into the Amel wiring at all. Cheers, Craig [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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That sounds like a pretty nice setup, Richard. Will consider that when my current charger/inverter bites the dust. So you are using the same small diameter wire (~7/16" dia) that Amel installed as the shore power cable for either 220 or 110 input at 30 or 50A? My question really refers to the shore power cable itself and if it is really big enough. It does NOT meet ABYC standards, and gets pretty warm when running a lot of 220 equipment. Has anyone out there felt the need to replace the smaller cable(s) that Amel uses to larger ones?
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Thanks again and Happy Holidays. Kent SM243 KRISTY --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Richard Piller <richard03801@...> wrote:
From: Richard Piller <richard03801@...> Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Shore Power Cables To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 9:58 PM Kent, we did away with the "Amel plug in solution") we installed an 1800 Watt inverter working off the 24 volt batteries and ran a wire from the inverter to the 110 volt box. We took out the 110 volt power supply coil that by the way is always hot. Changed the battery charger to a 90 to 260 volt, 80 amp 50/60 cycle charger. Kept the same input wire. This modification allows us to plug in anyplace in the world without worry. We just need the correct plug ends for all those different counties/harbors. It made life much easier traveling the world. We can plug in 110 stuff when we need it without having to go into the engine room and we can use 220 for some things like our coffee maker, toaster and vac. And yes the washer needs to have gen set running. good luck. Richard on SM 209 it's for sale. ________________________________ From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wed, November 10, 2010 2:54:16 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Shore Power Cables Oh, forgot to address your ? about the 110 circuit. It was added by Amel at the original owner's request and goes through a110-220 transformer before going to the chargers. I have to physically unplug a connection from the 220 power supply and plug it into the 110 power supply at the forward bulkhead in the engine room to use the 30A 110V shore power. Kent SM243 KRISTY --- On Wed, 11/10/10, sv Sangaris <sangaris@...> wrote: From: sv Sangaris <sangaris@...> Subject: [Amel] Re: Shore Power Cables To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 12:34 PM Hey Kent, Sailing south you won't need the heaters - problem solved :-) I'd guess the 110v feed is an add-on by the former US owner of Kristy, not original Amel, correct? What wattage are you drawing on your heaters - many are in the 1800w range. Sounds like you've got more than one - two would present 3600w which at 120v gives you the 30A limit of your cable - no wonder it's hot! If you need the heaters until you go south, can you run a separate additional 110 line out to the dock for one of the heaters? ... or get a 220v heater? Seems you really needn't rip into the Amel wiring at all. Cheers, Craig [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Kent we have been using that set up here in the US, Caribbean, and all over the Med. The prior owners used it all over the world without issue. If your getting a hot cable you may want to check in put voltage if you are low voltage or a leg missing yes the wires get warm. I'd also like to point out the the transformer is a very heavy draw as is the battery charger Your load for other on board stuff should not be that unless you are running all 3 heaters and then some. Heater=about 50 amps at startup.
Good luck Regards Richard Piller On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:17, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote: That sounds like a pretty nice setup, Richard. Will consider that when my current charger/inverter bites the dust. So you are using the same small diameter wire (~7/16" dia) that Amel installed as the shore power cable for either 220 or 110 input at 30 or 50A? My question really refers to the shore power cable itself and if it is really big enough. It does NOT meet ABYC standards, and gets pretty warm when running a lot of 220 equipment. Has anyone out there felt the need to replace the smaller cable(s) that Amel uses to larger ones? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I LOVE this forum! To all who have chimed in, Craig, Richard, Gary and Serge...Thank you for your input. My head is now in line with my gut and I am comfortable leaving the wiring as-is. Gary, I will install a 220 monitor so I can keep track of what I'm actuall getting and using. It will also help to monitor the genset's output. I'll monitor the wire temp carefully and adjust my usage if it's getting a bit too warm. If I find I'm not able to use what I want to (not likely while in the temperate/tropical zones), I'll consider upgrading the shore power cables. I'll straighten out the cables if there's any excess and change the posts to busses, too, Serge.
Thanks again to all, happy sailing! Kent SM243 KRISTY |
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