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[Amel] what's the trick to removing table in older Maramu?


David Wallace
 

Hi Dave,
It's been 11 years since I removed the table on Air Ops but if I remember correctly, the 6 large screws around the perimeter of the floor board it's mounted on were the only thing holding it in place. I still have the original floor board in place (we reconfigured the cabin so the table isn't there any more) so I can see the mounting holes -- six large ones and then numerous small ones for the screws that held the table structure to the floorboard. I also just pulled the floorboard up and the only holes in the stringers beneath it correspond to the six large ones in the floor board. There is no structure that other screws could be driven into except a cross stringer in the middle of the floorboard.
Hope this helps.
Daves/v Air OpsMaramu #104

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dave_benjamin@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 04:48:14 +0000
Subject: [Amel] what's the trick to removing table in older Maramu?




























We have Maramu #29. I want to clean the water tank so the table needs to come up to access the forward section. I've found 6 bolts so far and there's some screws that are really tough to reach. Still the table is firmly attached. Joel Potter told me there's some hard to find fasteners or some other trick to getting the table out of the way.



Anyone have ideas?



I used a pressure washer on the two other areas of the tank and that was quite effective.


amelforme
 

Hi Dave (and Dave B too...) You are correct about your table of course.
However, I recall on the earlier boats there was something in addition to
the six big machine screws that were put in a almost unreachable place. My
memory is not what it once was so perhaps I am confusing it with something
else.
That said, when preparing Maramu's for the brokerage market, I generally
remove the table and open the tanks up to check for surprises that a
surveyor may find troubling. If the sole has ever had any water on it, the
plywood can swell. Sometimes one needs to provide what might be considered
an inappropriate amount of force to break the table free. I would suggest a
underside inspection, as much as can be accessed with a borescope and if no
other fasteners are sighted, heavier pressure athwartship should do the
trick. Have someone with good hearing (not me) listen for the sound of wood
failing and work up to it incrementally.
I don't recall not being able to remove the table, even on pre #100
Maramu's, in the past.

All the best,
Joel


Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
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Hi Dave,
It's been 11 years since I removed the table on Air Ops but if I remember
correctly, the 6 large screws around the perimeter of the floor board it's
mounted on were the only thing holding it in place. I still have the
original floor board in place (we reconfigured the cabin so the table isn't
there any more) so I can see the mounting holes -- six large ones and then
numerous small ones for the screws that held the table structure to the
floorboard. I also just pulled the floorboard up and the only holes in the
stringers beneath it correspond to the six large ones in the floor board.
There is no structure that other screws could be driven into except a cross
stringer in the middle of the floorboard.
Hope this helps.
Daves/v Air OpsMaramu #104

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dave_benjamin@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 04:48:14 +0000
Subject: [Amel] what's the trick to removing table in older Maramu?




























We have Maramu #29. I want to clean the water tank so the table needs
to come up to access the forward section. I've found 6 bolts so far and
there's some screws that are really tough to reach. Still the table is
firmly attached. Joel Potter told me there's some hard to find fasteners or
some other trick to getting the table out of the way.



Anyone have ideas?



I used a pressure washer on the two other areas of the tank and that was
quite effective.


















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Dave_Benjamin
 

Dave,

On the newer Maramu's the fasteners are visible around the perimeter of the table and removal is pretty straight forward. Some of the screws are really hard to get to because they're basically flush against a piece of wood. I need come up with a better tool than just a regular screwdriver. I don't think all those fasteners are really needed because the newer ones just have the 6 bolts.

Hope all is well with you and Air Ops.

Cheers,
Dave

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, David Wallace <svairops@...> wrote:


Hi Dave,
It's been 11 years since I removed the table on Air Ops but if I remember correctly, the 6 large screws around the perimeter of the floor board it's mounted on were the only thing holding it in place. I still have the original floor board in place (we reconfigured the cabin so the table isn't there any more) so I can see the mounting holes -- six large ones and then numerous small ones for the screws that held the table structure to the floorboard. I also just pulled the floorboard up and the only holes in the stringers beneath it correspond to the six large ones in the floor board. There is no structure that other screws could be driven into except a cross stringer in the middle of the floorboard.
Hope this helps.
Daves/v Air OpsMaramu #104

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dave_benjamin@...
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 04:48:14 +0000
Subject: [Amel] what's the trick to removing table in older Maramu?




























We have Maramu #29. I want to clean the water tank so the table needs to come up to access the forward section. I've found 6 bolts so far and there's some screws that are really tough to reach. Still the table is firmly attached. Joel Potter told me there's some hard to find fasteners or some other trick to getting the table out of the way.



Anyone have ideas?



I used a pressure washer on the two other areas of the tank and that was quite effective.


















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David Wallace
 

Dave,
I know they make screwdrivers with a 90 bend at the tip, lots of repositioning but would do the trick. I'm sure you'll get it all sorted out.
All is well indeed. We're aboard, currently in Puerto Escondido where things are quite good right now. We did get out for 8 days and should be heading out again in a couple more.
Take care,
Dave

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dave_benjamin@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 23:03:26 +0000
Subject: Re: [Amel] what's the trick to removing table in older Maramu?




























Dave,



On the newer Maramu's the fasteners are visible around the perimeter of the table and removal is pretty straight forward. Some of the screws are really hard to get to because they're basically flush against a piece of wood. I need come up with a better tool than just a regular screwdriver. I don't think all those fasteners are really needed because the newer ones just have the 6 bolts.



Hope all is well with you and Air Ops.



Cheers,

Dave



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, David Wallace <svairops@...> wrote:

Hi Dave,
It's been 11 years since I removed the table on Air Ops but if I remember correctly, the 6 large screws around the perimeter of the floor board it's mounted on were the only thing holding it in place. I still have the original floor board in place (we reconfigured the cabin so the table isn't there any more) so I can see the mounting holes -- six large ones and then numerous small ones for the screws that held the table structure to the floorboard. I also just pulled the floorboard up and the only holes in the stringers beneath it correspond to the six large ones in the floor board. There is no structure that other screws could be driven into except a cross stringer in the middle of the floorboard.
Hope this helps.
Daves/v Air OpsMaramu #104
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dave_benjamin@...
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 04:48:14 +0000
Subject: [Amel] what's the trick to removing table in older Maramu?
We have Maramu #29. I want to clean the water tank so the table needs to come up to access the forward section. I've found 6 bolts so far and there's some screws that are really tough to reach. Still the table is firmly attached. Joel Potter told me there's some hard to find fasteners or some other trick to getting the table out of the way.
Anyone have ideas?
I used a pressure washer on the two other areas of the tank and that was quite effective.
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Dave_Benjamin
 

I've got a set of those screwdrivers with the 90 degree bend but the screws aren't budging. With access the way it is, it's tough to get enough pressure against the fastener. I didn't have much time to play with it and I've got some fresh ideas for when I'm back on the boat next week.

I've been invited to present a seminar to the puddle jumpers so I may see you in La Cruz if you get over that way.

Cheers,
Dave

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, David Wallace <svairops@...> wrote:


Dave,
I know they make screwdrivers with a 90 bend at the tip, lots of repositioning but would do the trick. I'm sure you'll get it all sorted out.
All is well indeed. We're aboard, currently in Puerto Escondido where things are quite good right now. We did get out for 8 days and should be heading out again in a couple more.
Take care,
Dave

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dave_benjamin@...
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 23:03:26 +0000
Subject: Re: [Amel] what's the trick to removing table in older Maramu?




























Dave,



On the newer Maramu's the fasteners are visible around the perimeter of the table and removal is pretty straight forward. Some of the screws are really hard to get to because they're basically flush against a piece of wood. I need come up with a better tool than just a regular screwdriver. I don't think all those fasteners are really needed because the newer ones just have the 6 bolts.



Hope all is well with you and Air Ops.



Cheers,

Dave



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, David Wallace <svairops@> wrote:

Hi Dave,
It's been 11 years since I removed the table on Air Ops but if I remember correctly, the 6 large screws around the perimeter of the floor board it's mounted on were the only thing holding it in place. I still have the original floor board in place (we reconfigured the cabin so the table isn't there any more) so I can see the mounting holes -- six large ones and then numerous small ones for the screws that held the table structure to the floorboard. I also just pulled the floorboard up and the only holes in the stringers beneath it correspond to the six large ones in the floor board. There is no structure that other screws could be driven into except a cross stringer in the middle of the floorboard.
Hope this helps.
Daves/v Air OpsMaramu #104
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dave_benjamin@
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 04:48:14 +0000
Subject: [Amel] what's the trick to removing table in older Maramu?
We have Maramu #29. I want to clean the water tank so the table needs to come up to access the forward section. I've found 6 bolts so far and there's some screws that are really tough to reach. Still the table is firmly attached. Joel Potter told me there's some hard to find fasteners or some other trick to getting the table out of the way.
Anyone have ideas?
I used a pressure washer on the two other areas of the tank and that was quite effective.