Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging


islandbwoy4434
 

Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Dave_Benjamin
 

Terry,

As a sailmaker I would encourage you to not rely on factory dimensions except for the purpose of obtaining quotes on sails. It's always best to measure the rig for new sails. That said, Amel is probably far better than most builders when it comes to providing records. If nothing else I'd check with Joel Potter to see how other owners have fared if the rig dimensions weren't verified.

I'd be happy to converse with you off-list if you have any questions about measuring rigs for new sails or why we care so much about doing so.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "islandbwoy4434" <terencesingh@...> wrote:

Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Barry <seagasm@...>
 

Hi Terry, we replaced our 10 years plus rigging here in Australia, the guys did it at the Marina Berth without removing the masts which I found quite impressive. My only criticism was the lack of knowledge with tension where there does not seem to be any information available. That said, we watched the performance regularly with minor adjustments. We have sailed to Vanuatu and the Torres Islands since experiencing winds 35-40 knots with no problems. Additionally, we purchased sails from Super Sails from there in the States and had them shipped out, they have all the measurements for the Amel and I found their service excellent, the product quality outstanding. I dealt with Zach there who is very helpful and seems to know his profession.

Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

Terry,

As a sailmaker I would encourage you to not rely on factory dimensions except for the purpose of obtaining quotes on sails. It's always best to measure the rig for new sails. That said, Amel is probably far better than most builders when it comes to providing records. If nothing else I'd check with Joel Potter to see how other owners have fared if the rig dimensions weren't verified.

I'd be happy to converse with you off-list if you have any questions about measuring rigs for new sails or why we care so much about doing so.



--- In amelyachtowners@..., "islandbwoy4434" <terencesingh@> wrote:

Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Terry,



Four years ago I bought a set of sail from Gateff Sails in Toulon, France
(Sails Gateff is now part of Doyle Sails). Gateff makes the sails as large
as is physically possible-significantly larger than the factory
specifications. He used Hydra Net material. After a transatlantic and
more, the sails look like new and the light air performance of the boat is
much improved and it tacks through a smaller angle. If anyone is
interested, when Doyle bought Sails Gateff, Doyle acquired the computer
programs that run the sail cutting machine so they should be able to
duplicate the size and shape of these sails.



Regards,



Miles (sm216 Ladybug)


Dave_Benjamin
 

Is the genoa larger as well, or just the main and mizzen?
Increasing the foot dimension can change the Ce (center of effort)a bit. Gateff built a lot of Amel sails so I'm sure they've got it sorted out. I don't know if I'd want to go any larger on the genoa.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Miles Bidwell" <mbidwell@...> wrote:

Terry,



Four years ago I bought a set of sail from Gateff Sails in Toulon, France
(Sails Gateff is now part of Doyle Sails). Gateff makes the sails as large
as is physically possible-significantly larger than the factory
specifications. He used Hydra Net material. After a transatlantic and
more, the sails look like new and the light air performance of the boat is
much improved and it tacks through a smaller angle. If anyone is
interested, when Doyle bought Sails Gateff, Doyle acquired the computer
programs that run the sail cutting machine so they should be able to
duplicate the size and shape of these sails.



Regards,



Miles (sm216 Ladybug)





islandbwoy4434
 

I am pleasantly overwhealmed by the response to my questions. Moving from the Westsail family to this one will be easy!
I have all the information required and thank each and every member of the group.
Terry

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "islandbwoy4434" <terencesingh@...> wrote:

Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Martin Knauff <sy.stenella@...>
 

I got new sails this year from "Beilken" in Germany. They are one of the the best and greatest Sailmakers in Germany, also in the regatta scene, but they know the special needs of bluewater- sailing. They constructed the main and mizzen sails with vertical sticks to make the lateralplan bigger. The sails are rolling into the masts as good as before. Next year I will write down our experiences. You can ask Beilken after the measurements. They did file them in teir computer system.

Martin.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

Is the genoa larger as well, or just the main and mizzen?
Increasing the foot dimension can change the Ce (center of effort)a bit. Gateff built a lot of Amel sails so I'm sure they've got it sorted out. I don't know if I'd want to go any larger on the genoa.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Miles Bidwell" <mbidwell@> wrote:

Terry,



Four years ago I bought a set of sail from Gateff Sails in Toulon, France
(Sails Gateff is now part of Doyle Sails). Gateff makes the sails as large
as is physically possible-significantly larger than the factory
specifications. He used Hydra Net material. After a transatlantic and
more, the sails look like new and the light air performance of the boat is
much improved and it tacks through a smaller angle. If anyone is
interested, when Doyle bought Sails Gateff, Doyle acquired the computer
programs that run the sail cutting machine so they should be able to
duplicate the size and shape of these sails.



Regards,



Miles (sm216 Ladybug)



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