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[Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Bill, the leds I have bought are 12 to 30 volt so I guess that covers the ovewr voltage. We have not lost any yet.
regards Danny SM299 Ocean pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Friday, 8 June 2012 6:57 PM Subject: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light I am not an expert with this bit of advice. In fact, call me a victim with experience. Full range LED bulbs i.e. 12v to 24v are problematic for 24 volt systems because the voltage in a 24 volt system will reach into 28 volts and cause damage to the bulbs drastically shortening the life of the bulb and basically removing any cost benefit. Be sure the bulb has a built-in power/voltage regulator or wire a regulator before the bulb. If you do this, you will spend less money than I did, constantly replacing LED bulbs. Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 Currently Fethiye Turkey --- In amelyachtowners@..., Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
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Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
I am not an expert with this bit of advice. In fact, call me a victim with experience.
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Full range LED bulbs i.e. 12v to 24v are problematic for 24 volt systems because the voltage in a 24 volt system will reach into 28 volts and cause damage to the bulbs drastically shortening the life of the bulb and basically removing any cost benefit. Be sure the bulb has a built-in power/voltage regulator or wire a regulator before the bulb. If you do this, you will spend less money than I did, constantly replacing LED bulbs. Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 Currently Fethiye Turkey --- In amelyachtowners@..., Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
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Thanks, Danny,
I'm onto a couple of leds here in the States that might work. I'll report when I figure something out that I know will work. Kent ________________________________ From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Kent. The light is a Revolution brand round work light, 900 Lumen, made in Australia so probably not much good to you. Prices on LED lights have dropped dramatically here in the last 6 months. 9 months ago we bought two of these lights for $120 NZ each. Today I could have bought them for $55 NZ.each. A caution though. The retailer told me that a fishing boat that had fitted these as work lights found an interference buzz coming through his VHF. We have not had that problem though, guess being up the masts they are far enough away. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Great, thanks, kent From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Kent, yes it was. Without looking at it my memory is that it was denoted 12 to 30 volt, not just 24. In fact most of the bulbs we use for 24 volt are rated 28 volt. But I do find that even in marine shops most of what they have is 12 volt.I will see if I can get the brand name and specs for you. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Danny, Is the LED that you bought at automotive store 24v? Everything I'm finding online is 12v. kent From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Kent, I have replaced the down light with led. What I used was a motor vehicle flood light available at auto electrical shops. It is a round unit but had a protruberance to attach to a bracket. I cut that off with a hacksaw and then the unit fitted neatly into the housing on the mast. I secured it in there by passing a heavy cable tie through a hole on either side of the housing and across the face of the light. Neat and simple and secure and they work well. I did the same for the mizzen down light. When fitting led lights remember that they are polarity sensitive, that is you need to run the electrical current through the correct way or they don't work. Does no harm to them, if it doesn't go just swap the wires. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent <karkauai@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 1:30 AM Subject: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi everyone, I've searched the site and can't find any definitive answer to this old ? from Eric. On KRISTY, SM243, the steaming light is AquaSignal, but the burned-out bulb doesn't have any markings indicating wattage. I'd like to replace the bulb with led. Does anyone know the wattage? Has anyone replaced this (and the bow nav lites) with led's? Just below the steaming light is mounted a separate fixture for the deck flood. The bulb is the oft-cited 24V 50A Par36 bulb. Does anyone know who makes this flood fixture? Has anyone replaced this bulb with an led? Thanks in advance for your help. Kent SM243 KRISTY Currently Brunswick GA --- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Kent. The light is a Revolution brand round work light, 900 Lumen, made in Australia so probably not much good to you. Prices on LED lights have dropped dramatically here in the last 6 months. 9 months ago we bought two of these lights for $120 NZ each. Today I could have bought them for $55 NZ.each. A caution though. The retailer told me that a fishing boat that had fitted these as work lights found an interference buzz coming through his VHF. We have not had that problem though, guess being up the masts they are far enough away.
Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Great, thanks, kent From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Kent, yes it was. Without looking at it my memory is that it was denoted 12 to 30 volt, not just 24. In fact most of the bulbs we use for 24 volt are rated 28 volt. But I do find that even in marine shops most of what they have is 12 volt.I will see if I can get the brand name and specs for you. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Danny, Is the LED that you bought at automotive store 24v? Everything I'm finding online is 12v. kent From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Kent, I have replaced the down light with led. What I used was a motor vehicle flood light available at auto electrical shops. It is a round unit but had a protruberance to attach to a bracket. I cut that off with a hacksaw and then the unit fitted neatly into the housing on the mast. I secured it in there by passing a heavy cable tie through a hole on either side of the housing and across the face of the light. Neat and simple and secure and they work well. I did the same for the mizzen down light. When fitting led lights remember that they are polarity sensitive, that is you need to run the electrical current through the correct way or they don't work. Does no harm to them, if it doesn't go just swap the wires. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent <karkauai@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 1:30 AM Subject: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi everyone, I've searched the site and can't find any definitive answer to this old ? from Eric. On KRISTY, SM243, the steaming light is AquaSignal, but the burned-out bulb doesn't have any markings indicating wattage. I'd like to replace the bulb with led. Does anyone know the wattage? Has anyone replaced this (and the bow nav lites) with led's? Just below the steaming light is mounted a separate fixture for the deck flood. The bulb is the oft-cited 24V 50A Par36 bulb. Does anyone know who makes this flood fixture? Has anyone replaced this bulb with an led? Thanks in advance for your help. Kent SM243 KRISTY Currently Brunswick GA --- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Great, thanks,
kent From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Kent, yes it was. Without looking at it my memory is that it was denoted 12 to 30 volt, not just 24. In fact most of the bulbs we use for 24 volt are rated 28 volt. But I do find that even in marine shops most of what they have is 12 volt.I will see if I can get the brand name and specs for you. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Danny, Is the LED that you bought at automotive store 24v? Everything I'm finding online is 12v. kent From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Kent, I have replaced the down light with led. What I used was a motor vehicle flood light available at auto electrical shops. It is a round unit but had a protruberance to attach to a bracket. I cut that off with a hacksaw and then the unit fitted neatly into the housing on the mast. I secured it in there by passing a heavy cable tie through a hole on either side of the housing and across the face of the light. Neat and simple and secure and they work well. I did the same for the mizzen down light. When fitting led lights remember that they are polarity sensitive, that is you need to run the electrical current through the correct way or they don't work. Does no harm to them, if it doesn't go just swap the wires. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent <karkauai@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 1:30 AM Subject: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi everyone, I've searched the site and can't find any definitive answer to this old ? from Eric. On KRISTY, SM243, the steaming light is AquaSignal, but the burned-out bulb doesn't have any markings indicating wattage. I'd like to replace the bulb with led. Does anyone know the wattage? Has anyone replaced this (and the bow nav lites) with led's? Just below the steaming light is mounted a separate fixture for the deck flood. The bulb is the oft-cited 24V 50A Par36 bulb. Does anyone know who makes this flood fixture? Has anyone replaced this bulb with an led? Thanks in advance for your help. Kent SM243 KRISTY Currently Brunswick GA --- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Kent, yes it was. Without looking at it my memory is that it was denoted 12 to 30 volt, not just 24. In fact most of the bulbs we use for 24 volt are rated 28 volt. But I do find that even in marine shops most of what they have is 12 volt.I will see if I can get the brand name and specs for you.
Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Danny, Is the LED that you bought at automotive store 24v? Everything I'm finding online is 12v. kent From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Kent, I have replaced the down light with led. What I used was a motor vehicle flood light available at auto electrical shops. It is a round unit but had a protruberance to attach to a bracket. I cut that off with a hacksaw and then the unit fitted neatly into the housing on the mast. I secured it in there by passing a heavy cable tie through a hole on either side of the housing and across the face of the light. Neat and simple and secure and they work well. I did the same for the mizzen down light. When fitting led lights remember that they are polarity sensitive, that is you need to run the electrical current through the correct way or they don't work. Does no harm to them, if it doesn't go just swap the wires. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent <karkauai@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 1:30 AM Subject: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi everyone, I've searched the site and can't find any definitive answer to this old ? from Eric. On KRISTY, SM243, the steaming light is AquaSignal, but the burned-out bulb doesn't have any markings indicating wattage. I'd like to replace the bulb with led. Does anyone know the wattage? Has anyone replaced this (and the bow nav lites) with led's? Just below the steaming light is mounted a separate fixture for the deck flood. The bulb is the oft-cited 24V 50A Par36 bulb. Does anyone know who makes this flood fixture? Has anyone replaced this bulb with an led? Thanks in advance for your help. Kent SM243 KRISTY Currently Brunswick GA --- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I'll try them, too. Thanks,
Kent From: Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Ken, we bought all our LED from sailorsolution.com Let then know it is for an Amel and they will guide you / Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila SM 232 Present in Croatia Skickat från min iPhone 6 jun 2012 kl. 15:50 skrev "Kent Robertson" <karkauai@...>: Hi Danny, [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
Hi Ken, we bought all our LED from sailorsolution.com
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Let then know it is for an Amel and they will guide you / Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila SM 232 Present in Croatia Skickat från min iPhone 6 jun 2012 kl. 15:50 skrev "Kent Robertson" <karkauai@...>: Hi Danny, |
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Hi Danny,
Is the LED that you bought at automotive store 24v? Everything I'm finding online is 12v. kent From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Kent, I have replaced the down light with led. What I used was a motor vehicle flood light available at auto electrical shops. It is a round unit but had a protruberance to attach to a bracket. I cut that off with a hacksaw and then the unit fitted neatly into the housing on the mast. I secured it in there by passing a heavy cable tie through a hole on either side of the housing and across the face of the light. Neat and simple and secure and they work well. I did the same for the mizzen down light. When fitting led lights remember that they are polarity sensitive, that is you need to run the electrical current through the correct way or they don't work. Does no harm to them, if it doesn't go just swap the wires. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent <karkauai@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 1:30 AM Subject: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi everyone, I've searched the site and can't find any definitive answer to this old ? from Eric. On KRISTY, SM243, the steaming light is AquaSignal, but the burned-out bulb doesn't have any markings indicating wattage. I'd like to replace the bulb with led. Does anyone know the wattage? Has anyone replaced this (and the bow nav lites) with led's? Just below the steaming light is mounted a separate fixture for the deck flood. The bulb is the oft-cited 24V 50A Par36 bulb. Does anyone know who makes this flood fixture? Has anyone replaced this bulb with an led? Thanks in advance for your help. Kent SM243 KRISTY Currently Brunswick GA --- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks, Danny and Alex.
I'll see if I can find the LED you're talking about. I found that AquaSignal is a subsidiary of Glamox and have asked them to help me find the off-white Kiel deck light fixture that I hope to replace. I'll let you all know what I learn. Kent From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi Kent, I have replaced the down light with led. What I used was a motor vehicle flood light available at auto electrical shops. It is a round unit but had a protruberance to attach to a bracket. I cut that off with a hacksaw and then the unit fitted neatly into the housing on the mast. I secured it in there by passing a heavy cable tie through a hole on either side of the housing and across the face of the light. Neat and simple and secure and they work well. I did the same for the mizzen down light. When fitting led lights remember that they are polarity sensitive, that is you need to run the electrical current through the correct way or they don't work. Does no harm to them, if it doesn't go just swap the wires. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent <karkauai@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 1:30 AM Subject: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi everyone, I've searched the site and can't find any definitive answer to this old ? from Eric. On KRISTY, SM243, the steaming light is AquaSignal, but the burned-out bulb doesn't have any markings indicating wattage. I'd like to replace the bulb with led. Does anyone know the wattage? Has anyone replaced this (and the bow nav lites) with led's? Just below the steaming light is mounted a separate fixture for the deck flood. The bulb is the oft-cited 24V 50A Par36 bulb. Does anyone know who makes this flood fixture? Has anyone replaced this bulb with an led? Thanks in advance for your help. Kent SM243 KRISTY Currently Brunswick GA --- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Kent, I have replaced the down light with led. What I used was a motor vehicle flood light available at auto electrical shops. It is a round unit but had a protruberance to attach to a bracket. I cut that off with a hacksaw and then the unit fitted neatly into the housing on the mast. I secured it in there by passing a heavy cable tie through a hole on either side of the housing and across the face of the light. Neat and simple and secure and they work well. I did the same for the mizzen down light. When fitting led lights remember that they are polarity sensitive, that is you need to run the electrical current through the correct way or they don't work. Does no harm to them, if it doesn't go just swap the wires.
Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand From: Kent <karkauai@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 1:30 AM Subject: [Amel] Re: Foredeck Light/Steaming Light Hi everyone, I've searched the site and can't find any definitive answer to this old ? from Eric. On KRISTY, SM243, the steaming light is AquaSignal, but the burned-out bulb doesn't have any markings indicating wattage. I'd like to replace the bulb with led. Does anyone know the wattage? Has anyone replaced this (and the bow nav lites) with led's? Just below the steaming light is mounted a separate fixture for the deck flood. The bulb is the oft-cited 24V 50A Par36 bulb. Does anyone know who makes this flood fixture? Has anyone replaced this bulb with an led? Thanks in advance for your help. Kent SM243 KRISTY Currently Brunswick GA --- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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