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[Amel] Re: Correction- Calpeda Air conditioning pump
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Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
Eric,
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Here is what I think: When you say this capacitor has 4 leads, I assume that you are talking about 4 terminals on the capacitor. Some capacitors have 2 pairs of terminals. A quick-connection wire terminal can be connected to either side of the pair, and the other side can be used for a parallel capacitor connection. In the case of the pump, and if my memory serves me correct, the capacitor plugs into a receptacle, utilizing the terminals on the end of the capacitor. An electric start motor capacitor is used to momentarily boost the current to the motor to get it started. The two terminals on the capacitor are wired between the "load" (a/k/a positive) source and the load IN on the motor. When power is applied, the capacitor "charges" with boost voltage and delivers it momentarily to the motor. When the capacitor fails, the motor fails to start, and the breaker opens. I believe that this capacitor is a start capacitor rather than a run capacitor. That is all I know about it, and by no means am I an expert on this...much of it is a mystery that I accept. I have replaced this capacitor once in Malaysia where the country voltage is normally 250 volts, and I believe the cause of the failure. I hope this helps you. Bill --- In amelyachtowners@..., Sailormon <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Bill,
Thanks for all the info. I still do not understand why this capacitor has 4 leads, can it be replaced with one with two leads and how is it wired? Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:05 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel] Re: Correction- Calpeda Air conditioning pump Eric, I bought a capacitor in Malaysia at a hardware store for about $4USD. In the US find an electronics parts store. Bring the specs to them, if they do not have it, they will order it. Probably about $10. You could also find a capacitor at a water-well and pump store. A 220v pool pump probably has about the same capacitor. The one I bought in Malaysia was not an exact fit, but had the correct specs and works fine. Buy 2 of them. Or go to: Coastal Climate Control, Inc. PO Box 4535 Annapolis, MD 21403 (301) 352.5738 (ph) (301) 352.5739 (fax) www.coastalclimatecontrol.com info@... <mailto:info%40coastalclimatecontrol.com> They will have one for about $50. Any/all of them will work. A/C people love to sell $5 capacitors for $50. You can get the pump to work without a capacitor. The capacitor only helps get the motor turning. It takes some coordination. With a screwdriver spin the shaft of the pump at the same moment that the A/C is switched ON. It will reach its proper RMP and you are fine until you lose power or turn it off. If you are really, really hot, I suggest doing this until you can find a capacitor. I believe your description of the black tubes describes the anti-siphon plumbing for the toilet saltwater pumps. Salt crystals do accumulate where the small ones join the larger one. To test my thoughts, have someone fill the toilet while you are in the engine room observing. BTW, this is the reason that the sump pump will sometimes start a pumping cycle when the toilet is flushed...the saltwater draining into the sump is just enough to raise the water level which will trigger the micro switch. Salt buildup is an indication of a leak and likely a small one. I had salt buildup at the A/C pump hose output connection, until I changed the "one-way" valve, hose and clamps. The A/C pump should be part of the bonding system. On BeBe, the same y/g bonding wire that connects to the fresh water pump is also stripped about 1.5 inches and clamped to the A/C pump on the "one-way" valve. Check the wire to the fresh water pump and see if there is a portion about 1.5" that is stripped. It is likely that the clamp fell off. Hope this helps, Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 Currently Marmaris, Turkey Do you notice a lot of salt buildup at the pump hose output connection.lines enter a larger pipe on the upper starboard side forward bulkhead in the<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@...<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Amel] Re: Correction- Calpeda Air conditioning pumphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/324976668/pic/584 56993/view?picmode=<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/324976668/pic/58 456993/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc><mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Sailormon <kimberlite@>2 run and 2 start? But it is one unit. |
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Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
Eric,
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I bought a capacitor in Malaysia at a hardware store for about $4USD. In the US find an electronics parts store. Bring the specs to them, if they do not have it, they will order it. Probably about $10. You could also find a capacitor at a water-well and pump store. A 220v pool pump probably has about the same capacitor. The one I bought in Malaysia was not an exact fit, but had the correct specs and works fine. Buy 2 of them. Or go to: Coastal Climate Control, Inc. PO Box 4535 Annapolis, MD 21403 (301) 352.5738 (ph) (301) 352.5739 (fax) www.coastalclimatecontrol.com info@... They will have one for about $50. Any/all of them will work. A/C people love to sell $5 capacitors for $50. You can get the pump to work without a capacitor. The capacitor only helps get the motor turning. It takes some coordination. With a screwdriver spin the shaft of the pump at the same moment that the A/C is switched ON. It will reach its proper RMP and you are fine until you lose power or turn it off. If you are really, really hot, I suggest doing this until you can find a capacitor. I believe your description of the black tubes describes the anti-siphon plumbing for the toilet saltwater pumps. Salt crystals do accumulate where the small ones join the larger one. To test my thoughts, have someone fill the toilet while you are in the engine room observing. BTW, this is the reason that the sump pump will sometimes start a pumping cycle when the toilet is flushed...the saltwater draining into the sump is just enough to raise the water level which will trigger the micro switch. Salt buildup is an indication of a leak and likely a small one. I had salt buildup at the A/C pump hose output connection, until I changed the "one-way" valve, hose and clamps. The A/C pump should be part of the bonding system. On BeBe, the same y/g bonding wire that connects to the fresh water pump is also stripped about 1.5 inches and clamped to the A/C pump on the "one-way" valve. Check the wire to the fresh water pump and see if there is a portion about 1.5" that is stripped. It is likely that the clamp fell off. Hope this helps, Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 Currently Marmaris, Turkey Do you notice a lot of salt buildup at the pump hose output connection. |
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Sailormon <kimberlite@...>
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Where did you get the capacitor? Also is your pump connected to the green/yellow bonding. Do you notice a lot of salt buildup at the pump hose output connection. I also notice the same kind of salt buildup ( green) where the return lines enter a larger pipe on the upper starboard side forward bulkhead in the engine room I do not know what they are for about 3 or 4 black small metal pipes draining into an empty black metal pipe Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite I still do not get why there are 4 poles. _____ From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:08 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel] Re: Correction- Calpeda Air conditioning pump Eric, See the photo at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/324976668/pic/584 56993/view?picmode= <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/324976668/pic/58 456993/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc> &mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc Some capacitors have twin connection poles on each side which allows a parallel connection. Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 --- In amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Sailormon <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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