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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS #12499 Hi Trevor, I have done this and it would be the easiest boat in the world to work on in this area. Ours is SM 299 with the ZF (or Hurth as they used to be) and a Volvo TMD22. There is a Vetus connector between the gearbox and the C drive. Undo the four bolts holding this together. To move the motor forward prepare by removing the cables to the gearshift.. You may have to remove the flexible exhaust connection from the motor, in ours I didn't, there was enough movement available. Remove the water pipes to the oil cooler (both in and out) first turning off the sea cock.. Check all cables and fuel lines to the motor, we did not have to remove any, you may. As you shift the motor watch carefully that nothing is pulling up short or snagging. You only need to move the motor around 150mm (six inches). Now undo the 4 large bolts securing the motor to the angle iron engine beds. Take the bolts out. Now the engine is ready to be slid forward. I do this by using a piece of 75 x 50mm (2" x 3") timber as a lever. (this is what make the Amel so easy, most boats you have to take the engine off the engine mounts and physically lift it to move it.) Slide it a little at a time ensuring the the bolts through the vetus slide free. If you cannot remove the nuts on these before you move the motor (no room for the nut to come off) just move the motor a little then take the nuts off. Once the motor is moved you have 6 ( I think) nuts to remove on the back of the motor that hold a dish shaped housing on to the motor to which the gear box is fixed. Undo these and you can lift the gear box off along with the dish shaped housing. There is a spline into what looks like a car clutch plate that is bolted to the flywheel of the engine into which the gearbox shaft enters. There are a series of springs in this for shock absorbsion. If they have never been replaced it may be a good idea to do this while the gear box is off. If you don't do this there is no need to take this plate off the fly wheel. Likewise there are 4 rubber bushes in the Vetus connector with a dual role, correcting (very) minor alignment issues and providing shock absorbsion. Hope this helps. I reiterate, it is the easiest boat you will ever find if you have to move the motor. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean pearl Currently home port Mangonui New Zealand Dear All,does anyone know the correct sequence and procedure of where and how to split the drive train between my ZF 25 and the C drive to allow me to remove and replace the gearbox.The boat is in the water and it appears that either the engine has to move forwards or the top part of the Cdrive needs to de dismantled? Neither option is attractive.Any advice would be very much appreciated.Thank you very much.Trevor LustySeafever of CuanSupermaramu no 425Mexico From: seafeverofcuan <seafeverofcuan@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 1:44 PM Subject: [Amel] Transmission removal [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS #12500 Sorry Trevor, I said "move the motor forward", I meant aft. Danny SM 299 From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Amel] Transmission removal Hi Trevor, I have done this and it would be the easiest boat in the world to work on in this area. Ours is SM 299 with the ZF (or Hurth as they used to be) and a Volvo TMD22. There is a Vetus connector between the gearbox and the C drive. Undo the four bolts holding this together. To move the motor forward prepare by removing the cables to the gearshift.. You may have to remove the flexible exhaust connection from the motor, in ours I didn't, there was enough movement available. Remove the water pipes to the oil cooler (both in and out) first turning off the sea cock.. Check all cables and fuel lines to the motor, we did not have to remove any, you may. As you shift the motor watch carefully that nothing is pulling up short or snagging. You only need to move the motor around 150mm (six inches). Now undo the 4 large bolts securing the motor to the angle iron engine beds. Take the bolts out. Now the engine is ready to be slid forward. I do this by using a piece of 75 x 50mm (2" x 3") timber as a lever. (this is what make the Amel so easy, most boats you have to take the engine off the engine mounts and physically lift it to move it.) Slide it a little at a time ensuring the the bolts through the vetus slide free. If you cannot remove the nuts on these before you move the motor (no room for the nut to come off) just move the motor a little then take the nuts off. Once the motor is moved you have 6 ( I think) nuts to remove on the back of the motor that hold a dish shaped housing on to the motor to which the gear box is fixed. Undo these and you can lift the gear box off along with the dish shaped housing. There is a spline into what looks like a car clutch plate that is bolted to the flywheel of the engine into which the gearbox shaft enters. There are a series of springs in this for shock absorbsion. If they have never been replaced it may be a good idea to do this while the gear box is off. If you don't do this there is no need to take this plate off the fly wheel. Likewise there are 4 rubber bushes in the Vetus connector with a dual role, correcting (very) minor alignment issues and providing shock absorbsion. Hope this helps. I reiterate, it is the easiest boat you will ever find if you have to move the motor. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean pearl Currently home port Mangonui New Zealand Dear All,does anyone know the correct sequence and procedure of where and how to split the drive train between my ZF 25 and the C drive to allow me to remove and replace the gearbox.The boat is in the water and it appears that either the engine has to move forwards or the top part of the Cdrive needs to de dismantled? Neither option is attractive.Any advice would be very much appreciated.Thank you very much.Trevor LustySeafever of CuanSupermaramu no 425Mexico From: seafeverofcuan mailto:seafeverofcuan%40yahoo.com> To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 1:44 PM Subject: [Amel] Transmission removal [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Sailorman <kimberlite@...> #12501 Danny, That serial number Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite probably has a Yanmar engine as does mine. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:23 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel] Transmission removal Hi Trevor, I have done this and it would be the easiest boat in the world to work on in this area. Ours is SM 299 with the ZF (or Hurth as they used to be) and a Volvo TMD22. There is a Vetus connector between the gearbox and the C drive. Undo the four bolts holding this together. To move the motor forward prepare by removing the cables to the gearshift.. You may have to remove the flexible exhaust connection from the motor, in ours I didn't, there was enough movement available. Remove the water pipes to the oil cooler (both in and out) first turning off the sea cock.. Check all cables and fuel lines to the motor, we did not have to remove any, you may. As you shift the motor watch carefully that nothing is pulling up short or snagging. You only need to move the motor around 150mm (six inches). Now undo the 4 large bolts securing the motor to the angle iron engine beds. Take the bolts out. Now the engine is ready to be slid forward. I do this by using a piece of 75 x 50mm (2" x 3") timber as a lever. (this is what make the Amel so easy, most boats you have to take the engine off the engine mounts and physically lift it to move it.) Slide it a little at a time ensuring the the bolts through the vetus slide free. If you cannot remove the nuts on these before you move the motor (no room for the nut to come off) just move the motor a little then take the nuts off. Once the motor is moved you have 6 ( I think) nuts to remove on the back of the motor that hold a dish shaped housing on to the motor to which the gear box is fixed. Undo these and you can lift the gear box off along with the dish shaped housing. There is a spline into what looks like a car clutch plate that is bolted to the flywheel of the engine into which the gearbox shaft enters. There are a series of springs in this for shock absorbsion. If they have never been replaced it may be a good idea to do this while the gear box is off. If you don't do this there is no need to take this plate off the fly wheel. Likewise there are 4 rubber bushes in the Vetus connector with a dual role, correcting (very) minor alignment issues and providing shock absorbsion. Hope this helps. I reiterate, it is the easiest boat you will ever find if you have to move the motor. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean pearl Currently home port Mangonui New Zealand Dear All,does anyone know the correct sequence and procedure of where and how to split the drive train between my ZF 25 and the C drive to allow me to remove and replace the gearbox.The boat is in the water and it appears that either the engine has to move forwards or the top part of the Cdrive needs to de dismantled? Neither option is attractive.Any advice would be very much appreciated.Thank you very much.Trevor LustySeafever of CuanSupermaramu no 425Mexico From: seafeverofcuan seafeverofcuan@... <mailto:seafeverofcuan%40yahoo.com> > To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 1:44 PM Subject: [Amel] Transmission removal _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . SPAMfighter has removed 505 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? <http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen> Try a free scan!
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Sailorman <kimberlite@...> #12502 Danny, That serial number Amel Super Maramu #435 probably has a Yanmar engine as does mine. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:23 AM To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Amel] Transmission removal Hi Trevor, I have done this and it would be the easiest boat in the world to work on in this area. Ours is SM 299 with the ZF (or Hurth as they used to be) and a Volvo TMD22. There is a Vetus connector between the gearbox and the C drive. Undo the four bolts holding this together. To move the motor forward prepare by removing the cables to the gearshift.. You may have to remove the flexible exhaust connection from the motor, in ours I didn't, there was enough movement available. Remove the water pipes to the oil cooler (both in and out) first turning off the sea cock.. Check all cables and fuel lines to the motor, we did not have to remove any, you may. As you shift the motor watch carefully that nothing is pulling up short or snagging. You only need to move the motor around 150mm (six inches). Now undo the 4 large bolts securing the motor to the angle iron engine beds. Take the bolts out. Now the engine is ready to be slid forward. I do this by using a piece of 75 x 50mm (2" x 3") timber as a lever. (this is what make the Amel so easy, most boats you have to take the engine off the engine mounts and physically lift it to move it.) Slide it a little at a time ensuring the the bolts through the vetus slide free. If you cannot remove the nuts on these before you move the motor (no room for the nut to come off) just move the motor a little then take the nuts off. Once the motor is moved you have 6 ( I think) nuts to remove on the back of the motor that hold a dish shaped housing on to the motor to which the gear box is fixed. Undo these and you can lift the gear box off along with the dish shaped housing. There is a spline into what looks like a car clutch plate that is bolted to the flywheel of the engine into which the gearbox shaft enters. There are a series of springs in this for shock absorbsion. If they have never been replaced it may be a good idea to do this while the gear box is off. If you don't do this there is no need to take this plate off the fly wheel. Likewise there are 4 rubber bushes in the Vetus connector with a dual role, correcting (very) minor alignment issues and providing shock absorbsion. Hope this helps. I reiterate, it is the easiest boat you will ever find if you have to move the motor. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean pearl Currently home port Mangonui New Zealand Dear All,does anyone know the correct sequence and procedure of where and how to split the drive train between my ZF 25 and the C drive to allow me to remove and replace the gearbox.The boat is in the water and it appears that either the engine has to move forwards or the top part of the Cdrive needs to de dismantled? Neither option is attractive.Any advice would be very much appreciated.Thank you very much.Trevor LustySeafever of CuanSupermaramu no 425Mexico From: seafeverofcuan seafeverofcuan@... <mailto:seafeverofcuan%40yahoo.com> To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 1:44 PM Subject: [Amel] Transmission removal _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . SPAMfighter has removed 505 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen> Try a free scan!
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS #12506 Hi Eric, does the Yanmar instalation have a coupler like the Vetus (or any coupling) between the gearbox and the C drive? If so all I said would be pertinent as the Amel with the Yanmar has the angle iron rails for the engine to sit on. Simply undo that coupling and proceed. The cabling, gearbox controls etc may be different but detaching them is just a matter of care and observation. Removal of the gearbox from the rear of the engine (or front if you look at the orientation in the boat) is unlikley to be much different. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl From: Sailorman <kimberlite@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 8:44 PM Subject: RE: [Amel] Transmission removal Danny, That serial number Amel Super Maramu #435 probably has a Yanmar engine as does mine. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:23 AM To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel] Transmission removal Hi Trevor, I have done this and it would be the easiest boat in the world to work on in this area. Ours is SM 299 with the ZF (or Hurth as they used to be) and a Volvo TMD22. There is a Vetus connector between the gearbox and the C drive. Undo the four bolts holding this together. To move the motor forward prepare by removing the cables to the gearshift.. You may have to remove the flexible exhaust connection from the motor, in ours I didn't, there was enough movement available. Remove the water pipes to the oil cooler (both in and out) first turning off the sea cock.. Check all cables and fuel lines to the motor, we did not have to remove any, you may. As you shift the motor watch carefully that nothing is pulling up short or snagging. You only need to move the motor around 150mm (six inches). Now undo the 4 large bolts securing the motor to the angle iron engine beds. Take the bolts out. Now the engine is ready to be slid forward. I do this by using a piece of 75 x 50mm (2" x 3") timber as a lever. (this is what make the Amel so easy, most boats you have to take the engine off the engine mounts and physically lift it to move it.) Slide it a little at a time ensuring the the bolts through the vetus slide free. If you cannot remove the nuts on these before you move the motor (no room for the nut to come off) just move the motor a little then take the nuts off. Once the motor is moved you have 6 ( I think) nuts to remove on the back of the motor that hold a dish shaped housing on to the motor to which the gear box is fixed. Undo these and you can lift the gear box off along with the dish shaped housing. There is a spline into what looks like a car clutch plate that is bolted to the flywheel of the engine into which the gearbox shaft enters. There are a series of springs in this for shock absorbsion. If they have never been replaced it may be a good idea to do this while the gear box is off. If you don't do this there is no need to take this plate off the fly wheel. Likewise there are 4 rubber bushes in the Vetus connector with a dual role, correcting (very) minor alignment issues and providing shock absorbsion. Hope this helps. I reiterate, it is the easiest boat you will ever find if you have to move the motor. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean pearl Currently home port Mangonui New Zealand Dear All,does anyone know the correct sequence and procedure of where and how to split the drive train between my ZF 25 and the C drive to allow me to remove and replace the gearbox.The boat is in the water and it appears that either the engine has to move forwards or the top part of the Cdrive needs to de dismantled? Neither option is attractive.Any advice would be very much appreciated.Thank you very much.Trevor LustySeafever of CuanSupermaramu no 425Mexico From: seafeverofcuan mailto:seafeverofcuan%40yahoo.com To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 1:44 PM Subject: [Amel] Transmission removal [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Sailorman <kimberlite@...> #12507 I do not recall seeing a coupling, However, you might ask other owners with a yanmar to look at their engine as I am in NY and the boat is in SXM Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:02 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel] Transmission removal Hi Eric, does the Yanmar instalation have a coupler like the Vetus (or any coupling) between the gearbox and the C drive? If so all I said would be pertinent as the Amel with the Yanmar has the angle iron rails for the engine to sit on. Simply undo that coupling and proceed. The cabling, gearbox controls etc may be different but detaching them is just a matter of care and observation. Removal of the gearbox from the rear of the engine (or front if you look at the orientation in the boat) is unlikley to be much different. Regards Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl From: Sailorman kimberlite@... <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 8:44 PM Subject: RE: [Amel] Transmission removal Danny, That serial number Amel Super Maramu #435 probably has a Yanmar engine as does mine. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:23 AM To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel] Transmission removal Hi Trevor, I have done this and it would be the easiest boat in the world to work on in this area. Ours is SM 299 with the ZF (or Hurth as they used to be) and a Volvo TMD22. There is a Vetus connector between the gearbox and the C drive. Undo the four bolts holding this together. To move the motor forward prepare by removing the cables to the gearshift.. You may have to remove the flexible exhaust connection from the motor, in ours I didn't, there was enough movement available. Remove the water pipes to the oil cooler (both in and out) first turning off the sea cock.. Check all cables and fuel lines to the motor, we did not have to remove any, you may. As you shift the motor watch carefully that nothing is pulling up short or snagging. You only need to move the motor around 150mm (six inches). Now undo the 4 large bolts securing the motor to the angle iron engine beds. Take the bolts out. Now the engine is ready to be slid forward. I do this by using a piece of 75 x 50mm (2" x 3") timber as a lever. (this is what make the Amel so easy, most boats you have to take the engine off the engine mounts and physically lift it to move it.) Slide it a little at a time ensuring the the bolts through the vetus slide free. If you cannot remove the nuts on these before you move the motor (no room for the nut to come off) just move the motor a little then take the nuts off. Once the motor is moved you have 6 ( I think) nuts to remove on the back of the motor that hold a dish shaped housing on to the motor to which the gear box is fixed. Undo these and you can lift the gear box off along with the dish shaped housing. There is a spline into what looks like a car clutch plate that is bolted to the flywheel of the engine into which the gearbox shaft enters. There are a series of springs in this for shock absorbsion. If they have never been replaced it may be a good idea to do this while the gear box is off. If you don't do this there is no need to take this plate off the fly wheel. Likewise there are 4 rubber bushes in the Vetus connector with a dual role, correcting (very) minor alignment issues and providing shock absorbsion. Hope this helps. I reiterate, it is the easiest boat you will ever find if you have to move the motor. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean pearl Currently home port Mangonui New Zealand Dear All,does anyone know the correct sequence and procedure of where and how to split the drive train between my ZF 25 and the C drive to allow me to remove and replace the gearbox.The boat is in the water and it appears that either the engine has to move forwards or the top part of the Cdrive needs to de dismantled? Neither option is attractive.Any advice would be very much appreciated.Thank you very much.Trevor LustySeafever of CuanSupermaramu no 425Mexico From: seafeverofcuan mailto:seafeverofcuan%40yahoo.com To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 1:44 PM Subject: [Amel] Transmission removal _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . SPAMfighter has removed 505 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen> Try a free scan!
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