[Amel] Website Woes


Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I agree completely with everything you said.

One other suggestion:
If someone fluent in French and "website savvy" will contact chris"at"forum-voiliers-amel.net. Chris is the Owner of the French Amel Owners Group 
which has a proprietary website and a dedicated server.

My thinking is that it would be very easy for Cris to copy his current website and translate the 
structure into English, then have two sites, one French and one English. 
It could be possible to do this a number of other ways.

Also, Kent, you can search messages...really and the following is not a joke.
Yahoo did an extremely poor job of placing the search feature for messages.
I will try to explain:
If you have entered your name and password in the last 2 weeks go to step 4 below...if you have not entered your Yahoo name and password in 2 weeks: 
  1. click on the your name near the top right and click on sign out. This will take you to the Yahoo homepage. 
  2. Now click on Login and enter your name and password. This will take you to yet another Yahoo home page. 
  3. Now go to http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/info
  4. Next take notice of the search box near the mid, upper left. It has two buttons to the right of the search box. Do Not Use Those Buttons! 
  5. Enter a term in the search box like bow thruster and hit enter on your keyboard. 
  6. VIOLA! You have successfully searched messages.
Sorry there is not alpha search for photos or photo albums...you can only sort by oldest or newest.

Bill
BeBe

Bill
BeBe, #387


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
First let me say that the group webpage is now useless to me for searching messages, or even posting a new topic.  I had to post this via regular email.  We've got to do something about this before all our info is lost completely.  I'm ready to fork out some money to hire someone (preferably someone who is a member and competent to guide us and make it work) to find another way to continue our "conversations" and be able to post pics and files...even to attach a pic to a message.
 
We've talked about this for a couple of months now, is anyone actually doing anything?  I am pretty computer illiterate, but I am willing to find someone who can do this for us.  Should I just forge ahead, or should we be more formal about it...take a vote or something?
 
I think everyone would be willing to pay a reasonable fee to participate, what's reasonable?  $10 per year? $25?  What about upfront investment...$25? $50?
 
I fear that a lot of our information has already disappeared into the ether.
 
Thanks,
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA



Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

I agree with Bill about adapting the French site.  I searched for it even before I searched for the yahoo owners group.  Perhaps AMEL would be interested in facilitating the adaptation.  When we owned a Nordhavn. PAI, the company that manufactured Nordhavn, participated in the forum so as to keep its finger in the pie. 

Fair Winds!
" Bianca ", formerly Dikenec II
Santorin

Stephanie DiBelardino

On Oct 15, 2013, at 8:48 AM, "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I agree completely with everything you said

One other suggestion:
If someone fluent in French and "website savvy" will contact chris"at"forum-voiliers-amel.net. Chris is the Owner of the French Amel Owners Group 
which has a proprietary website and a dedicated server.

My thinking is that it would be very easy for Cris to copy his current website and translate the 
structure into English, then have two sites, one French and one English. 
It could be possible to do this a number of other ways.

Also, Kent, you can search messages...really and the following is not a joke.
Yahoo did an extremely poor job of placing the search feature for messages.
I will try to explain:
If you have entered your name and password in the last 2 weeks go to step 4 below...if you have not entered your Yahoo name and password in 2 weeks: 
  1. click on the your name near the top right and click on sign out. This will take you to the Yahoo homepage. 
  2. Now click on Login and enter your name and password. This will take you to yet another Yahoo home page. 
  3. Now go to http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/info
  4. Next take notice of the search box near the mid, upper left. It has two buttons to the right of the search box. Do Not Use Those Buttons! 
  5. Enter a term in the search box like bow thruster and hit enter on your keyboard. 
  6. VIOLA! You have successfully searched messages.
Sorry there is not alpha search for photos or photo albums...you can only sort by oldest or newest.

Bill
BeBe

Bill
BeBe, #387


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
First let me say that the group webpage is now useless to me for searching messages, or even posting a new topic.  I had to post this via regular email.  We've got to do something about this before all our info is lost completely.  I'm ready to fork out some money to hire someone (preferably someone who is a member and competent to guide us and make it work) to find another way to continue our "conversations" and be able to post pics and files...even to attach a pic to a message.
 
We've talked about this for a couple of months now, is anyone actually doing anything?  I am pretty computer illiterate, but I am willing to find someone who can do this for us.  Should I just forge ahead, or should we be more formal about it...take a vote or something?
 
I think everyone would be willing to pay a reasonable fee to participate, what's reasonable?  $10 per year? $25?  What about upfront investment...$25? $50?
 
I fear that a lot of our information has already disappeared into the ether.
 
Thanks,
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA



Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Stephanie,

Yes, Nordhavn does participate and has a very good owner's group. Unfortunately, I do not believe that the current management of Amel is similar to the Nordhavn management. Interestingly, I believe there are a lot of crossovers in the two company's customer base, but sadly I do not think that you will see Amel doing this.

I am hopeful that someone fluent in French will discuss some sort of share or merger with the French owner's group owner. I have an archive of what I considered the important photos and files from the Yahoo Group and regardless what Yahoo does with our current group, the messages that are currently there will likely be there for a long time. I think all of the other things are important such as the photos and files.

Bill
BeBe #387


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...> wrote:
 

I agree with Bill about adapting the French site.  I searched for it even before I searched for the yahoo owners group.  Perhaps AMEL would be interested in facilitating the adaptation.  When we owned a Nordhavn. PAI, the company that manufactured Nordhavn, participated in the forum so as to keep its finger in the pie. 

Fair Winds!
" Bianca ", formerly Dikenec II
Santorin

Stephanie DiBelardino



Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Bill --- 

Perhaps we can encourage Joel to work with the AMEL mgmt to help them understand the importance of cooperation with an owners group and helping up structure a crossover with the French group.    It would be a win- win situation.  Otherwise, we are orphans banding together. And, yes, I will have some cheese with my whine!  Preferably, a gorgonzola dolce!

Stephanie
Santorin "Bianca"

Stephanie DiBelardino

On Oct 15, 2013, at 10:38 AM, "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

 

Stephanie,

Yes, Nordhavn does participate and has a very good owner's group. Unfortunately, I do not believe that the current management of Amel is similar to the Nordhavn management. Interestingly, I believe there are a lot of crossovers in the two company's customer base, but sadly I do not think that you will see Amel doing this.

I am hopeful that someone fluent in French will discuss some sort of share or merger with the French owner's group owner. I have an archive of what I considered the important photos and files from the Yahoo Group and regardless what Yahoo does with our current group, the messages that are currently there will likely be there for a long time. I think all of the other things are important such as the photos and files.

Bill
BeBe #387


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...> wrote:
 

I agree with Bill about adapting the French site.  I searched for it even before I searched for the yahoo owners group.  Perhaps AMEL would be interested in facilitating the adaptation.  When we owned a Nordhavn. PAI, the company that manufactured Nordhavn, participated in the forum so as to keep its finger in the pie. 

Fair Winds!
" Bianca ", formerly Dikenec II
Santorin

Stephanie DiBelardino



Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I can do the translation is needed.
My plan is to make a section on Nikimat.com for the maintenance or repair I have done, I will be happy to post pictures and files from Bill and others.
I am preparing my January trip, so not much free time now, many pictures I have to post on my own site..
Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook, Texas, USA

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 10/15/13, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] Website Woes
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 3:38 AM
















 









Stephanie,
Yes, Nordhavn does participate
and has a very good owner's group. Unfortunately, I do
not believe that the current management of Amel is similar
to the Nordhavn management. Interestingly, I believe there
are a lot of crossovers in the two company's customer
base, but sadly I do not think that you will see Amel doing
this.


I am hopeful that someone fluent
in French will discuss some sort of share or merger with the
French owner's group owner. I have an archive of what I
considered the important photos and files from the Yahoo
Group and regardless what Yahoo does with our current group,
the messages that are currently there will likely be there
for a long time. I think all of the other things are
important such as the photos and files.


BillBeBe #387

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013
at 7:43 AM, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
wrote:

















 









I agree with Bill about adapting the
French site.  I searched for it even before I searched for
the yahoo owners group.  Perhaps AMEL would be interested
in facilitating the adaptation.  When we owned a Nordhavn.
PAI, the company that manufactured Nordhavn, participated in
the forum so as to keep its finger in the pie. 


Fair Winds!" Bianca ",
formerly Dikenec IISantorin

Stephanie DiBelardino


Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Hi Alexandre!

What is your first stop?

Fair winds
Stephanie

Stephanie DiBelardino

On Oct 15, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

 


I can do the translation is needed.
My plan is to make a section on Nikimat.com for the maintenance or repair I have done, I will be happy to post pictures and files from Bill and others.
I am preparing my January trip, so not much free time now, many pictures I have to post on my own site..
Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook, Texas, USA

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 10/15/13, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] Website Woes
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 3:38 AM
















 









Stephanie,
Yes, Nordhavn does participate
and has a very good owner's group. Unfortunately, I do
not believe that the current management of Amel is similar
to the Nordhavn management. Interestingly, I believe there
are a lot of crossovers in the two company's customer
base, but sadly I do not think that you will see Amel doing
this.


I am hopeful that someone fluent
in French will discuss some sort of share or merger with the
French owner's group owner. I have an archive of what I
considered the important photos and files from the Yahoo
Group and regardless what Yahoo does with our current group,
the messages that are currently there will likely be there
for a long time. I think all of the other things are
important such as the photos and files.


BillBeBe #387

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013
at 7:43 AM, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
wrote:

















 









I agree with Bill about adapting the
French site.  I searched for it even before I searched for
the yahoo owners group.  Perhaps AMEL would be interested
in facilitating the adaptation.  When we owned a Nordhavn.
PAI, the company that manufactured Nordhavn, participated in
the forum so as to keep its finger in the pie. 


Fair Winds!" Bianca ",
formerly Dikenec IISantorin

Stephanie DiBelardino


























Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Stephanie,

Departure Dec 27 from Kemah (Texas/USA) to go to Key West, stay a month, then Bimini, Bahamas, stay a month, then Freeport, Bahamas, stay 2 months, then Nassau, Bahamas, stay a month, then not sure; likely Exuma.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook, Texas, USA


--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 10/15/13, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] Website Woes
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 8:27 AM
















 









Hi Alexandre!
What is your first stop?
Fair windsStephanie

Stephanie DiBelardino
On Oct 15, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
wrote:
















 








I can do the translation is needed.

My plan is to make a section on Nikimat.com
for the maintenance or repair I have done, I will be happy
to post pictures and files from Bill and others.

I am preparing my January trip, so not much free time now,
many pictures I have to post on my own site..

Sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Seabrook, Texas, USA



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 10/15/13, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel] Website Woes

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 3:38 AM

































 



















Stephanie,

Yes, Nordhavn does participate

and has a very good owner's group. Unfortunately, I do

not believe that the current management of Amel is similar

to the Nordhavn management. Interestingly, I believe there

are a lot of crossovers in the two company's customer

base, but sadly I do not think that you will see Amel
doing

this.





I am hopeful that someone fluent

in French will discuss some sort of share or merger with
the

French owner's group owner. I have an archive of what
I

considered the important photos and files from the Yahoo

Group and regardless what Yahoo does with our current
group,

the messages that are currently there will likely be there

for a long time. I think all of the other things are

important such as the photos and files.





BillBeBe #387



On Tue, Oct 15, 2013

at 7:43 AM, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>

wrote:



































 



















I agree with Bill about adapting the

French site.  I searched for it even before I searched
for

the yahoo owners group.  Perhaps AMEL would be
interested

in facilitating the adaptation.  When we owned a
Nordhavn.

PAI, the company that manufactured Nordhavn, participated
in

the forum so as to keep its finger in the pie. 





Fair Winds!" Bianca ",

formerly Dikenec IISantorin



Stephanie DiBelardino


Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

We look forward to seeing you in March/ April?

Stephanie DiBelardino

On Oct 15, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

 

Hello Stephanie,

Departure Dec 27 from Kemah (Texas/USA) to go to Key West, stay a month, then Bimini, Bahamas, stay a month, then Freeport, Bahamas, stay 2 months, then Nassau, Bahamas, stay a month, then not sure; likely Exuma.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook, Texas, USA

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 10/15/13, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] Website Woes
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 8:27 AM
















 









Hi Alexandre!
What is your first stop?
Fair windsStephanie

Stephanie DiBelardino
On Oct 15, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
wrote:
















 








I can do the translation is needed.

My plan is to make a section on Nikimat.com
for the maintenance or repair I have done, I will be happy
to post pictures and files from Bill and others.

I am preparing my January trip, so not much free time now,
many pictures I have to post on my own site..

Sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Seabrook, Texas, USA



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 10/15/13, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel] Website Woes

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 3:38 AM

































 



















Stephanie,

Yes, Nordhavn does participate

and has a very good owner's group. Unfortunately, I do

not believe that the current management of Amel is similar

to the Nordhavn management. Interestingly, I believe there

are a lot of crossovers in the two company's customer

base, but sadly I do not think that you will see Amel
doing

this.





I am hopeful that someone fluent

in French will discuss some sort of share or merger with
the

French owner's group owner. I have an archive of what
I

considered the important photos and files from the Yahoo

Group and regardless what Yahoo does with our current
group,

the messages that are currently there will likely be there

for a long time. I think all of the other things are

important such as the photos and files.





BillBeBe #387



On Tue, Oct 15, 2013

at 7:43 AM, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>

wrote:



































 



















I agree with Bill about adapting the

French site.  I searched for it even before I searched
for

the yahoo owners group.  Perhaps AMEL would be
interested

in facilitating the adaptation.  When we owned a
Nordhavn.

PAI, the company that manufactured Nordhavn, participated
in

the forum so as to keep its finger in the pie. 





Fair Winds!" Bianca ",

formerly Dikenec IISantorin



Stephanie DiBelardino
























































































karkauai
 

Thanks Bill,
How in the world did you ever figure that out?

Also, using Mozilla Firefox I don't get anything that looks like the home page for the amelyachtowners group.  I have to use Microsoft Internet Explorer when on my PC.

It sounds like a very time consuming effort for someone to do translations back and forth between the French and English sites.  Again, I am happy to pay someone for their time in this effort.  Having the French and English versions meshed would give us twice as much information to work with.

Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help...but don't ask me to translate (:
Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: Bill & Judy Rouse
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Website Woes

 
Kent,

I agree completely with everything you said.

One other suggestion:
If someone fluent in French and "website savvy" will contact chris"at"forum-voiliers-amel.net. Chris is the Owner of the French Amel Owners Group 
which has a proprietary website and a dedicated server.

My thinking is that it would be very easy for Cris to copy his current website and translate the 
structure into English, then have two sites, one French and one English. 
It could be possible to do this a number of other ways.

Also, Kent, you can search messages...really and the following is not a joke.
Yahoo did an extremely poor job of placing the search feature for messages.
I will try to explain:
If you have entered your name and password in the last 2 weeks go to step 4 below...if you have not entered your Yahoo name and password in 2 weeks: 
  1. click on the your name near the top right and click on sign out. This will take you to the Yahoo homepage. 
  2. Now click on Login and enter your name and password. This will take you to yet another Yahoo home page. 
  3. Now go to http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/info
  4. Next take notice of the search box near the mid, upper left. It has two buttons to the right of the search box. Do Not Use Those Buttons! 
  5. Enter a term in the search box like bow thruster and hit enter on your keyboard. 
  6. VIOLA! You have successfully searched messages.
Sorry there is not alpha search for photos or photo albums...you can only sort by oldest or newest.

Bill
BeBe

Bill
BeBe, #387


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Hi all,
First let me say that the group webpage is now useless to me for searching messages, or even posting a new topic.  I had to post this via regular email.  We've got to do something about this before all our info is lost completely.  I'm ready to fork out some money to hire someone (preferably someone who is a member and competent to guide us and make it work) to find another way to continue our "conversations" and be able to post pics and files...even to attach a pic to a message.
 
We've talked about this for a couple of months now, is anyone actually doing anything?  I am pretty computer illiterate, but I am willing to find someone who can do this for us.  Should I just forge ahead, or should we be more formal about it...take a vote or something?
 
I think everyone would be willing to pay a reasonable fee to participate, what's reasonable?  $10 per year? $25?  What about upfront investment...$25? $50?
 
I fear that a lot of our information has already disappeared into the ether.
 
Thanks,
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA