[Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft


Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill,

You state, " With engine off in neutral it shakes the Amel drive." I assume you also mean under sail and the propeller spinning? However, every Amel I have seen has a hydraulic shaft brake that will stop the shaft with the engine off...therefore no spinning.

Is the delivery captain familiar with Amels? Is he familiar with diesel engines? I think that he might be a lacking in knowledge about Amels, or lacking in his report to you.

If I had to guess, you have a cylinder or two not firing correctly, o'er possibly some sort of issue with the transmission. And possibly a motor mount issue.

I am at Marina di Ragusa which is about 50 miles north of Malta. I have an SSB radio. If your boat has SSB, and if your captain can operate it, I will be happy to talk to him. Please let me know a time and frequency. Contact me at the Italy cell phone below. FYI it is now1430 my time.

Also, I can give you contact info to haul out in Malta with a yard at least casually knowledgeable with Amels.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On Apr 24, 2015 2:15 PM, "william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi there

New owner of a 1997 Amel Super Maramu in transite for delivery from Marmaris, Turkey to Boston, MA. Recently the boat has picked up a bad vibration in the prop shaft that shakes the entire boat. With engine off in neutral it shakes the Amel drive. The captain bled the injectors to be sure. It is currently running a Yanmar 4JH4 110HP with under 500 hours and a Burntons G5 autoprop. Captains guess is that one of the bearings failed in a blade. Current ETA to Malta is 275 NM in light air at 4kts. Anybody have any insight that can pass along?

Many thanks,

Bill
It's all Good
SM #195



Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill,

I should also have said that it could be the AutoProp if the hydraulic shaft brake is not working or not installed. That would allow the prop to spin with the motor off and result in vibration.

But, that prop could simply be fouled. Did your captain rule out a fouled prop, assuming a parallel problem with the shaft brake?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 24, 2015 2:34 PM, "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Bill,

You state, " With engine off in neutral it shakes the Amel drive." I assume you also mean under sail and the propeller spinning? However, every Amel I have seen has a hydraulic shaft brake that will stop the shaft with the engine off...therefore no spinning.

Is the delivery captain familiar with Amels? Is he familiar with diesel engines? I think that he might be a lacking in knowledge about Amels, or lacking in his report to you.

If I had to guess, you have a cylinder or two not firing correctly, o'er possibly some sort of issue with the transmission. And possibly a motor mount issue.

I am at Marina di Ragusa which is about 50 miles north of Malta. I have an SSB radio. If your boat has SSB, and if your captain can operate it, I will be happy to talk to him. Please let me know a time and frequency. Contact me at the Italy cell phone below. FYI it is now1430 my time.

Also, I can give you contact info to haul out in Malta with a yard at least casually knowledgeable with Amels.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 24, 2015 2:15 PM, "william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi there

New owner of a 1997 Amel Super Maramu in transite for delivery from Marmaris, Turkey to Boston, MA. Recently the boat has picked up a bad vibration in the prop shaft that shakes the entire boat. With engine off in neutral it shakes the Amel drive. The captain bled the injectors to be sure. It is currently running a Yanmar 4JH4 110HP with under 500 hours and a Burntons G5 autoprop. Captains guess is that one of the bearings failed in a blade. Current ETA to Malta is 275 NM in light air at 4kts. Anybody have any insight that can pass along?

Many thanks,

Bill
It's all Good
SM #195



Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

To Echo Bill's comment,

I had some "light" vibrations, could feel in some RPM range.
When I did the haul out, antifouling, C drive service, had the propeller entirely rebuilt and now the vibrations are gone, plus I gain 200 rpm !!!
Some say the propeller needs to be rebuilt every 2000 (engine) hours or 10 years.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
In repair at Dania Beach, Florida.




--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 4/24/15, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, April 24, 2015, 7:41 AM


 









Bill,
I should also have said that it could be the
AutoProp if the hydraulic shaft brake is not working or not
installed. That would allow the prop to spin with the motor
off and result in vibration.
But, that prop could simply be fouled. Did your
captain rule out a fouled prop, assuming a parallel problem
with the shaft brake?
Bill Rouse

BeBe Amel 53 #387

Sent from my tablet

+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile

+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Apr 24, 2015 2:34 PM,
"Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...>
wrote:
Bill,
You state, " With engine off in neutral it
shakes the Amel drive." I assume you also mean under
sail and the propeller spinning? However, every Amel I have
seen has a hydraulic shaft brake that will stop the shaft
with the engine off...therefore no spinning.
Is the delivery captain familiar with Amels? Is
he familiar with diesel engines? I think that he might be a
lacking in knowledge about Amels, or lacking in his report
to you.
If I had to guess, you have a cylinder or two
not firing correctly, o'er possibly some sort of issue
with the transmission. And possibly a motor mount issue.
I am at Marina di Ragusa which is about 50
miles north of Malta. I have an SSB radio. If your boat has
SSB, and if your captain can operate it, I will be happy to
talk to him. Please let me know a time and frequency.
Contact me at the Italy cell phone below. FYI it is now1430
my time.
Also, I can give you contact info to haul out
in Malta with a yard at least casually knowledgeable with
Amels.
Bill Rouse

BeBe Amel 53 #387

Sent from my tablet

+39 333 121 8115 Italy
Mobile

+1832-380-4970 USA Voice
Mail
On Apr 24, 2015 2:15
PM, "william_maffei@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Hi there

New owner
of a 1997 Amel Super Maramu in transite for delivery from
Marmaris, Turkey to Boston, MA. Recently the boat has picked
up a bad vibration in the prop shaft that shakes the entire
boat. With engine off in neutral it shakes the Amel drive.
The captain bled the injectors to be sure. It is currently
running a Yanmar 4JH4 110HP with under 500 hours and a
Burntons G5 autoprop. Captains guess is that one of the
bearings failed in a blade. Current ETA to Malta is 275 NM
in light air at 4kts. Anybody have any insight that can pass
along?

Many thanks,

Bill
It's
all Good
SM #195

































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William Maffei <william_maffei@...>
 

Thanks for the response I really appreciate it and keep it coming from the others. I think that there might be some communication difficulties right now considering I am in Boston and the captain and crew are only in communication 1 or 2 times daily via irridium data connection. Riza from Turkey has been in touch with us both and is helping the situation. I know anything is possible on a boat (speaking from past experience) but I am hoping that this is a simple fix like an autoprop bearing and nothing major mechanical. The boat was just prepped for this trip and surveyed in the past month. I look at this leg (Marmaris ~ Malta) as a shake down for the remaining 4,300 NM.

The bottom, prop were both cleaned before the trip, anodes replaced and all systems were tested.

BTW Bill: I have not forgot about your suggestions for a new mattress and Gardener Mattress is coming to visit when she arrives in Boston. I will let you know.

Cheers,


At Apr 24, 2015, 8:50:36 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]<'amelyachtowners@...'> wrote:

To Echo Bill's comment,

I had some "light" vibrations, could feel in some RPM range.
When I did the haul out, antifouling, C drive service, had the propeller entirely rebuilt and now the vibrations are gone, plus I gain 200 rpm !!!
Some say the propeller needs to be rebuilt every 2000 (engine) hours or 10 years.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
In repair at Dania Beach, Florida.

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 4/24/15, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, April 24, 2015, 7:41 AM












Bill,
I should also have said that it could be the
AutoProp if the hydraulic shaft brake is not working or not
installed. That would allow the prop to spin with the motor
off and result in vibration.
But, that prop could simply be fouled. Did your
captain rule out a fouled prop, assuming a parallel problem
with the shaft brake?
Bill Rouse

BeBe Amel 53 #387

Sent from my tablet

+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile

+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Apr 24, 2015 2:34 PM,
"Bill & Judy Rouse"
wrote:
Bill,
You state, " With engine off in neutral it
shakes the Amel drive." I assume you also mean under
sail and the propeller spinning? However, every Amel I have
seen has a hydraulic shaft brake that will stop the shaft
with the engine off...therefore no spinning.
Is the delivery captain familiar with Amels? Is
he familiar with diesel engines? I think that he might be a
lacking in knowledge about Amels, or lacking in his report
to you.
If I had to guess, you have a cylinder or two
not firing correctly, o'er possibly some sort of issue
with the transmission. And possibly a motor mount issue.
I am at Marina di Ragusa which is about 50
miles north of Malta. I have an SSB radio. If your boat has
SSB, and if your captain can operate it, I will be happy to
talk to him. Please let me know a time and frequency.
Contact me at the Italy cell phone below. FYI it is now1430
my time.
Also, I can give you contact info to haul out
in Malta with a yard at least casually knowledgeable with
Amels.
Bill Rouse

BeBe Amel 53 #387

Sent from my tablet

+39 333 121 8115 Italy
Mobile

+1832-380-4970 USA Voice
Mail
On Apr 24, 2015 2:15
PM, "william_maffei@...
[amelyachtowners]"
wrote:

























Hi there

New owner
of a 1997 Amel Super Maramu in transite for delivery from
Marmaris, Turkey to Boston, MA. Recently the boat has picked
up a bad vibration in the prop shaft that shakes the entire
boat. With engine off in neutral it shakes the Amel drive.
The captain bled the injectors to be sure. It is currently
running a Yanmar 4JH4 110HP with under 500 hours and a
Burntons G5 autoprop. Captains guess is that one of the
bearings failed in a blade. Current ETA to Malta is 275 NM
in light air at 4kts. Anybody have any insight that can pass
along?

Many thanks,

Bill
It's
all Good
SM #195

































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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill,

One more thing.

I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.  

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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karkauai
 

I'm guessing fouled prop, Bill.  Did they try running in reverse?  Can someone dive on the prop?
Kent
SM243
Kristy



From: "William Maffei william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..." ; "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 
Thanks for the response I really appreciate it and keep it coming from the others. I think that there might be some communication difficulties right now considering I am in Boston and the captain and crew are only in communication 1 or 2 times daily via irridium data connection. Riza from Turkey has been in touch with us both and is helping the situation. I know anything is possible on a boat (speaking from past experience) but I am hoping that this is a simple fix like an autoprop bearing and nothing major mechanical. The boat was just prepped for this trip and surveyed in the past month. I look at this leg (Marmaris ~ Malta) as a shake down for the remaining 4,300 NM.

The bottom, prop were both cleaned before the trip, anodes replaced and all systems were tested.

BTW Bill: I have not forgot about your suggestions for a new mattress and Gardener Mattress is coming to visit when she arrives in Boston. I will let you know.

Cheers,


At Apr 24, 2015, 8:50:36 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]amelyachtowners@...'> wrote:
To Echo Bill's comment,

I had some "light" vibrations, could feel in some RPM range.
When I did the haul out, antifouling, C drive service, had the propeller entirely rebuilt and now the vibrations are gone, plus I gain 200 rpm !!!
Some say the propeller needs to be rebuilt every 2000 (engine) hours or 10 years.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
In repair at Dania Beach, Florida.

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 4/24/15, 'Bill Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, April 24, 2015, 7:41 AM












Bill,
I should also have said that it could be the
AutoProp if the hydraulic shaft brake is not working or not
installed. That would allow the prop to spin with the motor
off and result in vibration.
But, that prop could simply be fouled. Did your
captain rule out a fouled prop, assuming a parallel problem
with the shaft brake?
Bill Rouse

BeBe Amel 53 #387

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On Apr 24, 2015 2:34 PM,
"Bill Judy Rouse"
wrote:
Bill,
You state, " With engine off in neutral it
shakes the Amel drive." I assume you also mean under
sail and the propeller spinning? However, every Amel I have
seen has a hydraulic shaft brake that will stop the shaft
with the engine off...therefore no spinning.
Is the delivery captain familiar with Amels? Is
he familiar with diesel engines? I think that he might be a
lacking in knowledge about Amels, or lacking in his report
to you.
If I had to guess, you have a cylinder or two
not firing correctly, o'er possibly some sort of issue
with the transmission. And possibly a motor mount issue.
I am at Marina di Ragusa which is about 50
miles north of Malta. I have an SSB radio. If your boat has
SSB, and if your captain can operate it, I will be happy to
talk to him. Please let me know a time and frequency.
Contact me at the Italy cell phone below. FYI it is now1430
my time.
Also, I can give you contact info to haul out
in Malta with a yard at least casually knowledgeable with
Amels.
Bill Rouse

BeBe Amel 53 #387

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On Apr 24, 2015 2:15
PM, "william_maffei@...
[amelyachtowners]"
wrote:

























Hi there

New owner
of a 1997 Amel Super Maramu in transite for delivery from
Marmaris, Turkey to Boston, MA. Recently the boat has picked
up a bad vibration in the prop shaft that shakes the entire
boat. With engine off in neutral it shakes the Amel drive.
The captain bled the injectors to be sure. It is currently
running a Yanmar 4JH4 110HP with under 500 hours and a
Burntons G5 autoprop. Captains guess is that one of the
bearings failed in a blade. Current ETA to Malta is 275 NM
in light air at 4kts. Anybody have any insight that can pass
along?

Many thanks,

Bill
It's
all Good
SM #195

































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seafeverofcuan@...
 

Bill,
      Gear box fluid, transmission nuts and bolts at the coupler, engine bolts where they fit to the angle iron frame and the engine mounts themselves,all need checked.
The G5 prop is not normal for a Super Maramu and it needs serviced more regularly than the H6.
Brompton told me this only two months ago.
The worst vibrations that I ever experienced turned out to be a sized gearbox due to the transmission heat exchanger failing and dumping the fluid, but the vibrations occurred  only when the gearbox was engaged with the engine running.
It is really important to find out when the 110 hp Yanmar was fitted did they retain/install a shaft brake which will rule the prop in or out.
Sorry this reply is a bit tardy but anyone of the above could be part of your problem.
Good luck.
Trevor Lusty
Seafever of Cuan
SM425 Redline
For Sale
In Mexico




Olivier Beaute
 

Hi Bill (It's all good),

the 1997 SM were not equipped with hydraulic gearboxes, and therefore don't have shaft brakes.
When the engine was replaced, what kind of gearbox was installed? Mechanic or hydraulic?

To start with the beginning, as we say in France, did someone dive to check if anything was caught in the prop?
As you mention, with engine off, throttle in neutral (and if you don't have a shaft brake system), your prop turns because of the water flow. If a piece of fishing net is caught in the prop, it turns with vibrations.
If a bearing of one blade of the AUTOPROP is seized, it will also turn with vibrations.In my opinion, the problem has nothing to do with the diesel engine condition.

In light winds as they had today, your crew should go diving and inspect the prop.
Do you know if, when the prop shakes the boat, the shaft that can be seen in the engine room turns also?

Good luck.

Olivier



On Friday, April 24, 2015 7:19 PM, "seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Bill,
      Gear box fluid, transmission nuts and bolts at the coupler, engine bolts where they fit to the angle iron frame and the engine mounts themselves,all need checked.
The G5 prop is not normal for a Super Maramu and it needs serviced more regularly than the H6.
Brompton told me this only two months ago.
The worst vibrations that I ever experienced turned out to be a sized gearbox due to the transmission heat exchanger failing and dumping the fluid, but the vibrations occurred  only when the gearbox was engaged with the engine running.
It is really important to find out when the 110 hp Yanmar was fitted did they retain/install a shaft brake which will rule the prop in or out.
Sorry this reply is a bit tardy but anyone of the above could be part of your problem.
Good luck.
Trevor Lusty
Seafever of Cuan
SM425 Redline
For Sale
In Mexico






William Maffei <william_maffei@...>
 

Olivier,

Thanks so much for this helpful information!!! I will have a better idea what is going on when the boat gets to Malta. Everyone's comments are greatly appreciated. I did do some more research and the H5 is not the correct prop for this engine. Things like this absolutely drive me insane. I have no toleration for jobs done half asked just to save money. This is exactly what happens when the "short" way of fixing something happens. I have no idea if the crew jumped in the water to assess the prop but that would seem like the most logical thing to do and what I would have done immediately. Again, I am not there for this. I have all the faith in the captain that I hired of the job and can only assume they have done so. 

Again, please keep the comments coming along if there are anymore suggestions out there. I will keep you all posted when the boat is in Malta. 

Thanks again,

Bill
It's all Good
SM #195



On Friday, April 24, 2015 2:42 PM, "Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi Bill (It's all good),

the 1997 SM were not equipped with hydraulic gearboxes, and therefore don't have shaft brakes.
When the engine was replaced, what kind of gearbox was installed? Mechanic or hydraulic?

To start with the beginning, as we say in France, did someone dive to check if anything was caught in the prop?
As you mention, with engine off, throttle in neutral (and if you don't have a shaft brake system), your prop turns because of the water flow. If a piece of fishing net is caught in the prop, it turns with vibrations.
If a bearing of one blade of the AUTOPROP is seized, it will also turn with vibrations.In my opinion, the problem has nothing to do with the diesel engine condition.

In light winds as they had today, your crew should go diving and inspect the prop.
Do you know if, when the prop shakes the boat, the shaft that can be seen in the engine room turns also?

Good luck.

Olivier



On Friday, April 24, 2015 7:19 PM, "seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Bill,
      Gear box fluid, transmission nuts and bolts at the coupler, engine bolts where they fit to the angle iron frame and the engine mounts themselves,all need checked.
The G5 prop is not normal for a Super Maramu and it needs serviced more regularly than the H6.
Brompton told me this only two months ago.
The worst vibrations that I ever experienced turned out to be a sized gearbox due to the transmission heat exchanger failing and dumping the fluid, but the vibrations occurred  only when the gearbox was engaged with the engine running.
It is really important to find out when the 110 hp Yanmar was fitted did they retain/install a shaft brake which will rule the prop in or out.
Sorry this reply is a bit tardy but anyone of the above could be part of your problem.
Good luck.
Trevor Lusty
Seafever of Cuan
SM425 Redline
For Sale
In Mexico








sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

I have the H5 on my 100 hp yanmar.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 

 

Bill,

One more thing.

I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.  

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

I have 4500 hours on the prop and engine and have rebuilt the prop twice.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 

 

I have the H5 on my 100 hp yanmar.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 

 

Bill,

One more thing.

I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.  

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
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+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

I have documents from Bruntons that recommend bearing and seal replacement every 1000 engine hours
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
 


From: "sailormon kimberlite@optonline..net [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2015 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 
I have 4500 hours on the prop and engine and have rebuilt the prop twice.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
 
 
I have the H5 on my 100 hp yanmar.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
 
 
Bill,
One more thing.
I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.  
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail



William Maffei <william_maffei@...>
 

Found out the boat is running a H6 (not H5 like originally stated) autoprop purchased in 07 Nov, 2014. Chances are something is caught on the prop. Will know more tomorrow morning EST. 




On Saturday, April 25, 2015 1:00 AM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
I have documents from Bruntons that recommend bearing and seal replacement every 1000 engine hours
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
 

From: "sailormon kimberlite@optonline..net [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2015 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 
I have 4500 hours on the prop and engine and have rebuilt the prop twice.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
 
 
I have the H5 on my 100 hp yanmar.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
 
 
Bill,
One more thing.
I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.  
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
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William Maffei <william_maffei@...>
 

Hi Everyone -

Turns out the prop picked up a bunch of mono that got wrapped. This is turn caused the engine mounts to get damaged. Currently undergoing repairs in Malta. The new H6 that Riza told me was installed in November of 2014 had no damage at all.

Thanks for all the input.

Bill M
It's all Good

At Apr 25, 2015, 4:10:52 PM, William Maffei william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]<'amelyachtowners@...'> wrote:

Found out the boat is running a H6 (not H5 like originally stated) autoprop purchased in 07 Nov, 2014. Chances are something is caught on the prop. Will know more tomorrow morning EST.




On Saturday, April 25, 2015 1:00 AM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


I have documents from Bruntons that recommend bearing and seal replacement every 1000 engine hours
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

From: "sailormon kimberlite@optonline..net [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2015 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

I have 4500 hours on the prop and engine and have rebuilt the prop twice.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
I have the H5 on my 100 hp yanmar.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
Bill,
One more thing.
I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail





Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Bill M,

I have Eleuthera moored stern to your own SM at the dock in Goček… I hope your string of bad luck has no strings attached to my hull… :-)

Greetings to your delivery crew and better luck for the rest of the journey.

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera SM 007 in Goček


On 27 Apr 2015, at 19:02, William Maffei william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone -

Turns out the prop picked up a bunch of mono that got wrapped. This is turn caused the engine mounts to get damaged. Currently undergoing repairs in Malta. The new H6 that Riza told me was installed in November of 2014 had no damage at all.

Thanks for all the input.

Bill M
It's all Good

At Apr 25, 2015, 4:10:52 PM, William Maffei william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]amelyachtowners@...'> wrote:

Found out the boat is running a H6 (not H5 like originally stated) autoprop purchased in 07 Nov, 2014. Chances are something is caught on the prop. Will know more tomorrow morning EST.




On Saturday, April 25, 2015 1:00 AM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


I have documents from Bruntons that recommend bearing and seal replacement every 1000 engine hours
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

From: "sailormon kimberlite@optonline..net [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2015 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

I have 4500 hours on the prop and engine and have rebuilt the prop twice.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
I have the H5 on my 100 hp yanmar.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
Bill,
One more thing.
I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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Jean-Pierre Germain,
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