[Amel Yacht Owners] No AC From Onan to AC Panel - SM
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Alexandre Uster von Baar
Hello Jim,
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You should check the other switch which is on the side of the generator (meaning on the aft side of the boat). Trying to be clearer, when you have the “DC circuit breakers” in front of you. Move toward your left (aft side of the boat). Then on the genset you will see another breaker. hope that help, let us know! Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Grand Bahama, Bahamas -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 5/28/15, capt.anderson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] No AC From Onan to AC Panel - SM To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Thursday, May 28, 2015, 12:36 PM ON SM 384 with Onan MDKAV running and powering the boat, all AC power went off but generator kept running.The "DC circuit breakers" and "Emergency Stop" swithches on the generator itself are on and I have reset the main circuit breaker on the side of the the 220v switch panel from "marche" to "arret" and back to "marche" again even though it appeared this breaker had not tripped. It appears that the generator is producing power but it is not getting to the AC switch/circuit breaker panel. Unfortunately my green "220v" available light is burnt out and is no longer available from Amel. I don't have an AC multi-meter with me to see just where there is power and where there isn't. I'm wondering if there is a simple solution like a fuse or switch somewhere between the generator and the AC panel and if so, where I might find it? Or any other suggestions? Thanks, Jim SM 384 Sirena Azul Currently Port Townsend, WA |
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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Jim, Alexandre's suggestion is probably what your problem is. Let us know. Bill BeBe 387 Malta On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Agreed, but important to understand why that breaker may have tripped. Mike Aletes SM#240
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:06 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] No AC From Onan to AC Panel - SM
Jim,
Alexandre's suggestion is probably what your problem is.
Let us know.
Bill BeBe 387 Malta
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hello Jim,
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Andrew & Kate Lamb
That has happened to me when I turned too many things on too quickly.
Andrew
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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Mike, Did your main breaker on the side of the Onan trip also? My experience is that it can open if more than 30 amps of 230VAC are being used. That would be the water maker, 3 A/C units, and 100amp charger The dishwasher pulls about 11 amps when heating water. However, every time it has been found open on BeBe, it is because someone/something bumped it. Bill BeBe 387 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:14 PM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Olivier Beaute
Good evening Jim, once you have checked the AC breaker on the genset electric box (towards the aft of the boat), if it has not tripped, check if the blower above the generator is running. This is the only 230V Equipment that is not fed through the 230V in galley. If it is working, this means 230V is going out of the genset, through the 230V breaker on the genset, but not further. In fact 230V genset power is not going straight to the galley panel, but first through a solenoid box (above the genset on portside, in a grey box labelled QUAI/GE) where the source of 230V is automatically selected (as soon as you start your genset, the 230V net on board is no more fed from shore power-if you're connected- but from the genset. The genset power has priority over shore power). If the 230V is going in this box but not out, the solenoid may be faulty or disconnected. Open the box (GENSET STOPPED) and check the connections. If they look OK, the solenoid may be faulty. This solenoid wears out more than usual when you start the genset without prior tripping all the breakers at the galley panel. Good search. Olivier On Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:14 PM, "'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote: Agreed, but important to understand why that breaker may have tripped. Mike Aletes SM#240 From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:06 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] No AC From Onan to AC Panel - SM Jim, Alexandre's suggestion is probably what your problem is. Let us know. Bill BeBe 387 Malta On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hello Jim, You should check the other switch which is on the side of the generator (meaning on the aft side of the boat). Trying to be clearer, when you have the “DC circuit breakers” in front of you. Move toward your left (aft side of the boat). Then on the genset you will see another breaker. hope that help, let us know! Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Grand Bahama, Bahamas -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 5/28/15, capt.anderson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] No AC From Onan to AC Panel - SM To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Thursday, May 28, 2015, 12:36 PM ON SM 384 with Onan MDKAV running and powering the boat, all AC power went off but generator kept running.The "DC circuit breakers" and "Emergency Stop" swithches on the generator itself are on and I have reset the main circuit breaker on the side of the the 220v switch panel from "marche" to "arret" and back to "marche" again even though it appeared this breaker had not tripped. It appears that the generator is producing power but it is not getting to the AC switch/circuit breaker panel. Unfortunately my green "220v" available light is burnt out and is no longer available from Amel. I don't have an AC multi-meter with me to see just where there is power and where there isn't. I'm wondering if there is a simple solution like a fuse or switch somewhere between the generator and the AC panel and if so, where I might find it? Or any other suggestions? Thanks, Jim SM 384 Sirena Azul Currently Port Townsend, WA |
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Jim Anderson
Alexandre, Bill, Mike, Andrew and Mr. Olivier BEAUTE, Problem solved, thanks to each of you. Indeed Alexandre, it was the breaker on the aft end of the generator which tripped due to (my) user error and lack of knowledge the existence of this item. Bill, thanks for following up with your second reply as, per Mike’s consideration I did not know why the breaker opened until learning that the dishwasher draws 11A when heating. I hadn’t used mine in three years and was running it through a cycle at the time after a thorough scrubbing. Olivier, thank you for the easy-to-understand troubleshooting advice and reminder of the system logic. I always start the generator with all 220V panel breaker-switches off/open and allow the unit to warm up for about a minute before applying a load. Before shutdown I again open/turn off all of the switches and let the unit cool down for a couple of minutes before shutting it down. Hopefully this will prolong the life of the solenoid. Thanks everyone for your kind assistance. Jim SM384 Sirena Azul At anchor (with AC power available) near Indianola, WA |
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Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning Jim,
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Thanks for the update and most importantly to glad it was not due to a problem! Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 5/28/15, capt.anderson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] No AC From Onan to AC Panel - SM To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Thursday, May 28, 2015, 9:41 PM Alexandre, Bill, Mike, Andrew and Mr. Olivier BEAUTE, Problem solved, thanks to each of you. Indeed Alexandre, it was the breaker on the aft end of the generator which tripped due to (my) user error and lack of knowledge the existence of this item. Bill, thanks for following up with your second reply as, per Mike’s consideration I did not know why the breaker opened until learning that the dishwasher draws 11A when heating. I hadn’t used mine in three years and was running it through a cycle at the time after a thorough scrubbing. Olivier, thank you for the easy-to-understand troubleshooting advice and reminder of the system logic. I always start the generator with all 220V panel breaker-switches off/open and allow the unit to warm up for about a minute before applying a load. Before shutdown I again open/turn off all of the switches and let the unit cool down for a couple of minutes before shutting it down. Hopefully this will prolong the life of the solenoid. Thanks everyone for your kind assistance. Jim SM384 Sirena Azul At anchor (with AC power available) near Indianola, WA |
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