[Amel Yacht Owners] Digest Number 4017


Ron Heyselaar <ronheyselaar@...>
 

I will not have any internet or email connection the next couple of days (at least). Will reply as soon as I’m back online. Ron

On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:56 , amelyachtowners@... wrote:


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3 Messages
Digest #4017


1a
Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60

1b
Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Bill & Judy Rouse" svbebe

1c
Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60



Messages
1a
Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:39 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60

Hi,
I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a
puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only
slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to
dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?

Kind Regards
Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island, Australia

--
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...

From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did
mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill
Rouse.
Hope that helps.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM












Peter,the parts don't all look exactly
the same, but the process is the same as for the Super
Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group
apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you
don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any
help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are
standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had
a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the
same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased
locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you
can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel
you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to
have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had
to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but
doable. Good Luck.
AlanMango #62, sv
Charisma









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Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bill & Judy Rouse" svbebe

Peter,

Before that tool was designed, the common practice was to disconnect the
suspension cable to the motor. Place a wood block between where the motor
and the housing meet, then from outside the boat, raise and plull down hard
on the bow thruster. If you do this, be sure that you have sprayed plenty
of WD40 or other penetrating oil at the junction of the tube and the motor.
It might take raising and pulling 10 to 12 times.

Also, if you have not already done so, you might try adding some grit
between that tool and the tube. Maybe sandpaper folded over so that grit is
on both sides. Possibly a machine shop can help you with something that
will add friction between the tool and the shaft.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Jul 26, 2015 8:39 AM, "Peter Buckley carhartt@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



Hi,
I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a
puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only
slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to
dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?

Kind Regards
Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island, Australia

--
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <
amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.



If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did
mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill
Rouse.
Hope that helps.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners] <
amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM












Peter,the parts don't all look exactly
the same, but the process is the same as for the Super
Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group
apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you
don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any
help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are
standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had
a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the
same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased
locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you
can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel
you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to
have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had
to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but
doable. Good Luck.
AlanMango #62, sv
Charisma









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Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the advice. I am trying to remove the thruster in the water if I
can but will lift it out if needed. I will try the sandpaper idea first and
see if that is a solution.

Kind Regards

Peter

Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island, Australia

--
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...

From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:52:15 +0200
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

Peter,

Before that tool was designed, the common practice was to disconnect the
suspension cable to the motor. Place a wood block between where the motor
and the housing meet, then from outside the boat, raise and plull down hard
on the bow thruster. If you do this, be sure that you have sprayed plenty of
WD40 or other penetrating oil at the junction of the tube and the motor. It
might take raising and pulling 10 to 12 times.

Also, if you have not already done so, you might try adding some grit
between that tool and the tube. Maybe sandpaper folded over so that grit is
on both sides. Possibly a machine shop can help you with something that will
add friction between the tool and the shaft.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 26, 2015 8:39 AM, "Peter Buckley carhartt@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:






Hi,
I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a
puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only
slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to
dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?

Kind Regards
Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island, Australia

--
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.





If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did
mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill
Rouse.
Hope that helps.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM












Peter,the parts don't all look exactly
the same, but the process is the same as for the Super
Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group
apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you
don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any
help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are
standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had
a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the
same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased
locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you
can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel
you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to
have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had
to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but
doable. Good Luck.
AlanMango #62, sv
Charisma









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1a
Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60

1b
Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Bill & Judy Rouse" svbebe

1c
Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60



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1a
Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:39 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60

Hi,
I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a
puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only
slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to
dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?

Kind Regards
Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island, Australia

--
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...

From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did
mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill
Rouse.
Hope that helps.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM












Peter,the parts don't all look exactly
the same, but the process is the same as for the Super
Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group
apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you
don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any
help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are
standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had
a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the
same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased
locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you
can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel
you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to
have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had
to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but
doable. Good Luck.
AlanMango #62, sv
Charisma









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Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bill & Judy Rouse" svbebe

Peter,

Before that tool was designed, the common practice was to disconnect the
suspension cable to the motor. Place a wood block between where the motor
and the housing meet, then from outside the boat, raise and plull down hard
on the bow thruster. If you do this, be sure that you have sprayed plenty
of WD40 or other penetrating oil at the junction of the tube and the motor.
It might take raising and pulling 10 to 12 times.

Also, if you have not already done so, you might try adding some grit
between that tool and the tube. Maybe sandpaper folded over so that grit is
on both sides. Possibly a machine shop can help you with something that
will add friction between the tool and the shaft.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
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+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Jul 26, 2015 8:39 AM, "Peter Buckley carhartt@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



Hi,
I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a
puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only
slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to
dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?

Kind Regards
Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island, Australia

--
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <
amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.



If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did
mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill
Rouse.
Hope that helps.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners] <
amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM












Peter,the parts don't all look exactly
the same, but the process is the same as for the Super
Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group
apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you
don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any
help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are
standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had
a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the
same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased
locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you
can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel
you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to
have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had
to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but
doable. Good Luck.
AlanMango #62, sv
Charisma









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Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the advice. I am trying to remove the thruster in the water if I
can but will lift it out if needed. I will try the sandpaper idea first and
see if that is a solution.

Kind Regards

Peter

Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island, Australia

--
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...

From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:52:15 +0200
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

Peter,

Before that tool was designed, the common practice was to disconnect the
suspension cable to the motor. Place a wood block between where the motor
and the housing meet, then from outside the boat, raise and plull down hard
on the bow thruster. If you do this, be sure that you have sprayed plenty of
WD40 or other penetrating oil at the junction of the tube and the motor. It
might take raising and pulling 10 to 12 times.

Also, if you have not already done so, you might try adding some grit
between that tool and the tube. Maybe sandpaper folded over so that grit is
on both sides. Possibly a machine shop can help you with something that will
add friction between the tool and the shaft.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On Jul 26, 2015 8:39 AM, "Peter Buckley carhartt@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:






Hi,
I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a
puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only
slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to
dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?

Kind Regards
Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island, Australia

--
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.





If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did
mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill
Rouse.
Hope that helps.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama

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On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM












Peter,the parts don't all look exactly
the same, but the process is the same as for the Super
Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group
apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you
don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any
help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are
standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had
a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the
same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased
locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you
can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel
you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to
have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had
to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but
doable. Good Luck.
AlanMango #62, sv
Charisma









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