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On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:56 , amelyachtowners@... wrote: ---------- Amel Yacht Owners - Forum for owners of Amel sailboats Group
3 Messages Digest #4017
1a Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60
1b Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Bill & Judy Rouse" svbebe
1c Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60
Messages 1a Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:39 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60
Hi, I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?
Kind Regards Gradiva Mango #70 Raymond Island, Australia
-- Peter Buckley
83 Twelfth Avenue Raymond Island VIC 3880
Phone: 0428 427 786
Email: carhartt@...
From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700 To: <amelyachtowners@...> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill Rouse. Hope that helps.
Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama
-------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM
Peter,the parts don't all look exactly the same, but the process is the same as for the Super Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but doable. Good Luck. AlanMango #62, sv Charisma
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1b Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Bill & Judy Rouse" svbebe
Peter,
Before that tool was designed, the common practice was to disconnect the suspension cable to the motor. Place a wood block between where the motor and the housing meet, then from outside the boat, raise and plull down hard on the bow thruster. If you do this, be sure that you have sprayed plenty of WD40 or other penetrating oil at the junction of the tube and the motor. It might take raising and pulling 10 to 12 times.
Also, if you have not already done so, you might try adding some grit between that tool and the tube. Maybe sandpaper folded over so that grit is on both sides. Possibly a machine shop can help you with something that will add friction between the tool and the shaft.
Bill Rouse BeBe Amel 53 #387 Sent from my tablet +39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile +1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail On Jul 26, 2015 8:39 AM, "Peter Buckley carhartt@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi, I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?
Kind Regards Gradiva Mango #70 Raymond Island, Australia
-- Peter Buckley
83 Twelfth Avenue Raymond Island VIC 3880
Phone: 0428 427 786
Email: carhartt@...
From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" < amelyachtowners@...> Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700 To: <amelyachtowners@...> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill Rouse. Hope that helps.
Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama
-------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM
Peter,the parts don't all look exactly the same, but the process is the same as for the Super Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but doable. Good Luck. AlanMango #62, sv Charisma
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1c Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:38 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the advice. I am trying to remove the thruster in the water if I can but will lift it out if needed. I will try the sandpaper idea first and see if that is a solution.
Kind Regards
Peter
Gradiva Mango #70 Raymond Island, Australia
-- Peter Buckley
83 Twelfth Avenue Raymond Island VIC 3880
Phone: 0428 427 786
Email: carhartt@...
From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:52:15 +0200 To: <amelyachtowners@...> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
Peter,
Before that tool was designed, the common practice was to disconnect the suspension cable to the motor. Place a wood block between where the motor and the housing meet, then from outside the boat, raise and plull down hard on the bow thruster. If you do this, be sure that you have sprayed plenty of WD40 or other penetrating oil at the junction of the tube and the motor. It might take raising and pulling 10 to 12 times.
Also, if you have not already done so, you might try adding some grit between that tool and the tube. Maybe sandpaper folded over so that grit is on both sides. Possibly a machine shop can help you with something that will add friction between the tool and the shaft.
Bill Rouse BeBe Amel 53 #387 Sent from my tablet +39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile +1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Jul 26, 2015 8:39 AM, "Peter Buckley carhartt@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi, I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?
Kind Regards Gradiva Mango #70 Raymond Island, Australia
-- Peter Buckley
83 Twelfth Avenue Raymond Island VIC 3880
Phone: 0428 427 786
Email: carhartt@...
From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700 To: <amelyachtowners@...> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill Rouse. Hope that helps.
Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama
-------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM
Peter,the parts don't all look exactly the same, but the process is the same as for the Super Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but doable. Good Luck. AlanMango #62, sv Charisma
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1a Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60
1b Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Bill & Judy Rouse" svbebe
1c Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. by "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60
Messages 1a Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:39 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60
Hi, I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?
Kind Regards Gradiva Mango #70 Raymond Island, Australia
-- Peter Buckley
83 Twelfth Avenue Raymond Island VIC 3880
Phone: 0428 427 786
Email: carhartt@...
From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700 To: <amelyachtowners@...> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill Rouse. Hope that helps.
Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama
-------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM
Peter,the parts don't all look exactly the same, but the process is the same as for the Super Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but doable. Good Luck. AlanMango #62, sv Charisma
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1b Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Bill & Judy Rouse" svbebe
Peter,
Before that tool was designed, the common practice was to disconnect the suspension cable to the motor. Place a wood block between where the motor and the housing meet, then from outside the boat, raise and plull down hard on the bow thruster. If you do this, be sure that you have sprayed plenty of WD40 or other penetrating oil at the junction of the tube and the motor. It might take raising and pulling 10 to 12 times.
Also, if you have not already done so, you might try adding some grit between that tool and the tube. Maybe sandpaper folded over so that grit is on both sides. Possibly a machine shop can help you with something that will add friction between the tool and the shaft.
Bill Rouse BeBe Amel 53 #387 Sent from my tablet +39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile +1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail On Jul 26, 2015 8:39 AM, "Peter Buckley carhartt@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi, I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?
Kind Regards Gradiva Mango #70 Raymond Island, Australia
-- Peter Buckley
83 Twelfth Avenue Raymond Island VIC 3880
Phone: 0428 427 786
Email: carhartt@...
From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" < amelyachtowners@...> Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700 To: <amelyachtowners@...> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill Rouse. Hope that helps.
Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama
-------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM
Peter,the parts don't all look exactly the same, but the process is the same as for the Super Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but doable. Good Luck. AlanMango #62, sv Charisma
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1c Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:38 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Peter Buckley" peter.buckley60
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the advice. I am trying to remove the thruster in the water if I can but will lift it out if needed. I will try the sandpaper idea first and see if that is a solution.
Kind Regards
Peter
Gradiva Mango #70 Raymond Island, Australia
-- Peter Buckley
83 Twelfth Avenue Raymond Island VIC 3880
Phone: 0428 427 786
Email: carhartt@...
From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:52:15 +0200 To: <amelyachtowners@...> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
Peter,
Before that tool was designed, the common practice was to disconnect the suspension cable to the motor. Place a wood block between where the motor and the housing meet, then from outside the boat, raise and plull down hard on the bow thruster. If you do this, be sure that you have sprayed plenty of WD40 or other penetrating oil at the junction of the tube and the motor. It might take raising and pulling 10 to 12 times.
Also, if you have not already done so, you might try adding some grit between that tool and the tube. Maybe sandpaper folded over so that grit is on both sides. Possibly a machine shop can help you with something that will add friction between the tool and the shaft.
Bill Rouse BeBe Amel 53 #387 Sent from my tablet +39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile +1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Jul 26, 2015 8:39 AM, "Peter Buckley carhartt@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi, I have now tried in vain to remove the bow thruster on my Mango. I made a puller as per the Amel tool but the shaft is very tight and the tool only slips on the outer shaft. Is this a common problem and has anyone had to dismantle the motor to get at the top of the spline?
Kind Regards Gradiva Mango #70 Raymond Island, Australia
-- Peter Buckley
83 Twelfth Avenue Raymond Island VIC 3880
Phone: 0428 427 786
Email: carhartt@...
From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:29:17 -0700 To: <amelyachtowners@...> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.
If the process is the same as the SM, here are pictures I took when I did mine, following information written by Gary Silver and notes added by Bill Rouse. Hope that helps.
Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama
-------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/14/15, svcharisma@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal. To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 9:18 PM
Peter,the parts don't all look exactly the same, but the process is the same as for the Super Maramu. The procedures documented on this Yahoo Group apply to the Mango bow thruster as well. Make sure you don't break or loose anything, as Amel won't be any help with parts for the Mango version. The seals are standard seals that can be purchased locally. I've had a hard time matching the o-rings and have been using the same ones for a while. The nylon screws can be purchased locally. The foam rings are a bit more difficult. If you can get the SM ones they will work. Don't tell Amel you're looking for parts for a Mango, they seemed to have purged the spares, or just run out. Last year I had to fabricate a new fairing, which was challenging but doable. Good Luck. AlanMango #62, sv Charisma
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