[Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise


karkauai
 

When the previous owner of Kristy rebuilt my pump, he must have used non SS screws to secure the flapper valves, or poor quality stainless.  The screws were rusted almost through and broke when I tried to replace them.  I had to drill them out and use bigger screws.  Make sure you use marine stainless.
Kent
SM243


On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:23 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone -

Was wondering if anyone would chime in on some of their secrets used to help keep the bilge clean. Recently, I notice the main bilge system was continuously running after a dinner clean up and running the sink. The next day I removed the suction hose from the pump and notice that it was clogged up. I unclogged it and replaced it back onto the the pump. Next time the bilge pump turned on the pump was still just running and not pumping. Manual pump works fine and helps remove the excess water. Figuring there is a clog somewhere in the line and I will trouble shoot when I get out of work. Anyone care to chime in with some of their secrets or advice to help this system?

Side Note: The grey water does not smell at all and when the pump is running it appears that there is water coming from the exit plug however the water level is not going down unless the manual pump is used.

Bill
SM #195
It's all Good



amelforme
 

Just out of curiosity more than anything else, has anyone ever had the one way valve/prime retainer device on the end of the electric bilge pump intake hose fail? In 30 plus years of messing around in Amel boats, I have only had to clean off coagulated shmegma to return one to full function. Would be interesting to know if others have a different experience.

 

Joel

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise

 

 

When the previous owner of Kristy rebuilt my pump, he must have used non SS screws to secure the flapper valves, or poor quality stainless.  The screws were rusted almost through and broke when I tried to replace them.  I had to drill them out and use bigger screws.  Make sure you use marine stainless.

Kent

SM243


On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:23 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone -

Was wondering if anyone would chime in on some of their secrets used to help keep the bilge clean. Recently, I notice the main bilge system was continuously running after a dinner clean up and running the sink. The next day I removed the suction hose from the pump and notice that it was clogged up. I unclogged it and replaced it back onto the the pump. Next time the bilge pump turned on the pump was still just running and not pumping. Manual pump works fine and helps remove the excess water. Figuring there is a clog somewhere in the line and I will trouble shoot when I get out of work. Anyone care to chime in with some of their secrets or advice to help this system?

Side Note: The grey water does not smell at all and when the pump is running it appears that there is water coming from the exit plug however the water level is not going down unless the manual pump is used.

Bill
SM #195
It's all Good

 


karkauai
 

My boat's 16 yrs old and I'm sure still has the original.
Kent
SM 243


On Sep 16, 2015, at 3:34 PM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Just out of curiosity more than anything else, has anyone ever had the one way valve/prime retainer device on the end of the electric bilge pump intake hose fail? In 30 plus years of messing around in Amel boats, I have only had to clean off coagulated shmegma to return one to full function. Would be interesting to know if others have a different experience.

 

Joel

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise

 

 

When the previous owner of Kristy rebuilt my pump, he must have used non SS screws to secure the flapper valves, or poor quality stainless.  The screws were rusted almost through and broke when I tried to replace them.  I had to drill them out and use bigger screws.  Make sure you use marine stainless.

Kent

SM243


On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:23 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone -

Was wondering if anyone would chime in on some of their secrets used to help keep the bilge clean. Recently, I notice the main bilge system was continuously running after a dinner clean up and running the sink. The next day I removed the suction hose from the pump and notice that it was clogged up. I unclogged it and replaced it back onto the the pump. Next time the bilge pump turned on the pump was still just running and not pumping. Manual pump works fine and helps remove the excess water. Figuring there is a clog somewhere in the line and I will trouble shoot when I get out of work. Anyone care to chime in with some of their secrets or advice to help this system?

Side Note: The grey water does not smell at all and when the pump is running it appears that there is water coming from the exit plug however the water level is not going down unless the manual pump is used.

Bill
SM #195
It's all Good

 


Mark Erdos
 

Joel,



I cleaned this the other day as my flapper valve inside the pump fell off. I found the screws, the flapper and the small metal plate inside the one-way valve. So, the valve is dual purpose J



I put it all back together – works great. (but needs new bearings that I will order form McMaster Carr)





With best regards,



Mark



Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Annapolis in diesel mechanic school



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise





Just out of curiosity more than anything else, has anyone ever had the one way valve/prime retainer device on the end of the electric bilge pump intake hose fail? In 30 plus years of messing around in Amel boats, I have only had to clean off coagulated shmegma to return one to full function. Would be interesting to know if others have a different experience.



Joel



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise





When the previous owner of Kristy rebuilt my pump, he must have used non SS screws to secure the flapper valves, or poor quality stainless. The screws were rusted almost through and broke when I tried to replace them. I had to drill them out and use bigger screws. Make sure you use marine stainless.

Kent

SM243
On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:23 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



Hi Everyone -

Was wondering if anyone would chime in on some of their secrets used to help keep the bilge clean. Recently, I notice the main bilge system was continuously running after a dinner clean up and running the sink. The next day I removed the suction hose from the pump and notice that it was clogged up. I unclogged it and replaced it back onto the the pump. Next time the bilge pump turned on the pump was still just running and not pumping. Manual pump works fine and helps remove the excess water. Figuring there is a clog somewhere in the line and I will trouble shoot when I get out of work. Anyone care to chime in with some of their secrets or advice to help this system?

Side Note: The grey water does not smell at all and when the pump is running it appears that there is water coming from the exit plug however the water level is not going down unless the manual pump is used.

Bill
SM #195
It's all Good







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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

From my previous you may guess that I have. I have found after working on the pump valves that the problem was solved at the bottom 
Danny


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-------- Original message --------
From: "'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date:17/09/2015 7:34 AM (GMT+12:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise

 

Just out of curiosity more than anything else, has anyone ever had the one way valve/prime retainer device on the end of the electric bilge pump intake hose fail? In 30 plus years of messing around in Amel boats, I have only had to clean off coagulated shmegma to return one to full function. Would be interesting to know if others have a different experience.

 

Joel

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise

 

 

When the previous owner of Kristy rebuilt my pump, he must have used non SS screws to secure the flapper valves, or poor quality stainless.  The screws were rusted almost through and broke when I tried to replace them.  I had to drill them out and use bigger screws.  Make sure you use marine stainless.

Kent

SM243


On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:23 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone -

Was wondering if anyone would chime in on some of their secrets used to help keep the bilge clean. Recently, I notice the main bilge system was continuously running after a dinner clean up and running the sink. The next day I removed the suction hose from the pump and notice that it was clogged up. I unclogged it and replaced it back onto the the pump. Next time the bilge pump turned on the pump was still just running and not pumping. Manual pump works fine and helps remove the excess water. Figuring there is a clog somewhere in the line and I will trouble shoot when I get out of work. Anyone care to chime in with some of their secrets or advice to help this system?

Side Note: The grey water does not smell at all and when the pump is running it appears that there is water coming from the exit plug however the water level is not going down unless the manual pump is used.

Bill
SM #195
It's all Good

 


amelforme
 

Ah, the usually negative’ Law Of Unintended Consequences’ can sometimes be a good thing! Will miss seeing you both in Annapolis during the show as this is the first time in 39 years that I won’t be attending.

 

Have fun with your Amel. It’s a real Creampuff…

 

Joel

 

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 4:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise

 

 

Joel,

I cleaned this the other day as my flapper valve inside the pump fell off. I found the screws, the flapper and the small metal plate inside the one-way valve. So, the valve is dual purpose J

I put it all back together – works great. (but needs new bearings that I will order form McMaster Carr)

With best regards,

Mark

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Annapolis in diesel mechanic school

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise

Just out of curiosity more than anything else, has anyone ever had the one way valve/prime retainer device on the end of the electric bilge pump intake hose fail? In 30 plus years of messing around in Amel boats, I have only had to clean off coagulated shmegma to return one to full function. Would be interesting to know if others have a different experience.

Joel

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise

When the previous owner of Kristy rebuilt my pump, he must have used non SS screws to secure the flapper valves, or poor quality stainless. The screws were rusted almost through and broke when I tried to replace them. I had to drill them out and use bigger screws. Make sure you use marine stainless.

Kent

SM243



On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:23 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone -

Was wondering if anyone would chime in on some of their secrets used to help keep the bilge clean. Recently, I notice the main bilge system was continuously running after a dinner clean up and running the sink. The next day I removed the suction hose from the pump and notice that it was clogged up. I unclogged it and replaced it back onto the the pump. Next time the bilge pump turned on the pump was still just running and not pumping. Manual pump works fine and helps remove the excess water. Figuring there is a clog somewhere in the line and I will trouble shoot when I get out of work. Anyone care to chime in with some of their secrets or advice to help this system?

Side Note: The grey water does not smell at all and when the pump is running it appears that there is water coming from the exit plug however the water level is not going down unless the manual pump is used.

Bill
SM #195
It's all Good

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


william_maffei@...
 

Thank you all for responding! 

So, I cleaned the bilge after work today using Bill R's advice. I also removed the pump and checked it over 100%. It is in great shape and looks as if it were recently rebuilt. The bladder looks impeccable and all the mechanics are in good condition and well lubricated. I forced air through the rest of the system to ensure there was no blockage and all seemed well. When I was putting it back together I over torqued the 1" NPT with 1" barb and broke it off and was unable to test the system. My question is, does the system need to be primed? Right now it is completely dry. I believe that the last time I went to clean the bilge I did a half assed job and stirred up what was in the bilge causing the pump to just clog again. The way the pump looks right now there should be no reason why it does not work when reconnected after replacing the nipple. Other good news I found a spare bladder and rebuild kit so I can always turn in that direction if the pump is still not working. Thoughts are always appreciated. 

Bill M
SM #195
It's all Good 


Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Joel,

I replaced the Joker Valve on the end of the "bilge" pump hose. It was leaking, but possibly it would not be noticed. I happen to notice it when cleaning the sump. When I removed the hose from the sump, it continued to leak water (joker valve not closed). And when I re-inserted the hose in the sump, it took a while to prime. Had I not done this, I would not have noticed the loss of prime. I later replaced the hose with an almost clear reinforced hose, so that I can clearly see that water remains in the hose and the Joker Valve is working.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

My boat's 16 yrs old and I'm sure still has the original.
Kent
SM 243


On Sep 16, 2015, at 3:34 PM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Just out of curiosity more than anything else, has anyone ever had the one way valve/prime retainer device on the end of the electric bilge pump intake hose fail? In 30 plus years of messing around in Amel boats, I have only had to clean off coagulated shmegma to return one to full function. Would be interesting to know if others have a different experience.

 

Joel

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Suggestions/Advise

 

 

When the previous owner of Kristy rebuilt my pump, he must have used non SS screws to secure the flapper valves, or poor quality stainless.  The screws were rusted almost through and broke when I tried t o replace them.  I had to drill them out and use bigger screws.  Make sure you use marine stainless.

Kent

SM243


On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:23 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone -

Was wondering if anyone would chime in on some of their secrets used to help keep the bilge clean. Recently, I notice the main bilge system was continuously running after a dinner clean up and running the sink. The next day I removed the suction hose from the pump and notice that it was clogged up. I unclogged it and replaced it back onto the the pump. Next time the bilge pump turned on the pump was still just running and not pumping. Manual pump works fine and helps remove the excess water. Figuring there is a clog somewhere in the line and I will trouble shoot when I get out of work. Anyone care to chime in with some of their secrets or advice to help this system?

Side Note: The grey water does not smell at all and when the pump is running it appears that there is water coming from the exit plug however the water level is not going down unless the manual pump is used.

Bill
SM #195
It's all Good