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[Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box


Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months. 


My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.



eric freedman
 

As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the photos section.

You need a large wrench and there is a small area to work.

You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align the nut with locking plate and you are done.

Repacking the rudder stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove. I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of packing.

I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is already precut, also a spare nut.

 

It was  suggested by dow corning  to use Molykote silicone grease  it is specially formulated for packing.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

 

 

Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months. 

 

My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.

 


Beaute Olivier
 

Hi Thomas,

I would only add that turning a sixth of a turn (or two) will let you put the securing plate back to its previous location.
The adjustment is not so accurate...

Olivier



On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:21 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the photos section.
You need a large wrench and there is a small area to work.
You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align the nut with locking plate and you are done.
Repacking the rudder stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove. I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of packing.
I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is already precut, also a spare nut.
 
It was  suggested by dow corning  to use Molykote silicone grease  it is specially formulated for packing.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box
 
 
Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine
 
Bill
BeBe 387
 
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:
 
I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months. 
 
My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.
 



JEFFREY KRAUS
 


eric freedman
 

Jeff,

I have that tool. For the Amel the packing is so tight I was unable to remove any packing with it.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

 

 

Just to add to the conversation, there is a tool that is specific for the removal of packing. A shipyard would have one available. It is somewhat shaped like a corkscrew, with a thinner and longer screw part, and a longer "T" handle.

One was used successfully to remove the little bit of packing left in the rudder stuffing box of the F/V Alisha J before I ran her down to Shinnecock from Meteghanm NS, Can. Didn't leak a drop, and it was a slow drizzle before that.

The yard was all commercial, and perhaps that is why the tool was used in common practice.

Jeff 54 #14 Spirit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:27 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box
To: "amelyachtowners@..."

> Hi Thomas,
> I would only add that turning a sixth of a turn (or two) will
> let you put the securing plate back to its previous location.The
> adjustment is not so accurate...
> Olivier
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:21 AM, "sailormon
> kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]"
> wrote:
>
>
>   As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your
> leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of
> aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the
> photos section.You need a large wrench and there is a small area
> to work.You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align
> the nut with locking plate and you are done.Repacking the rudder
> stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove.
> I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of
> packing.I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is
> already precut, also a spare nut.  It was  suggested by dow
> corning  to use Molykote silicone grease  it is specially
> formulated for packing.Fair WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
> Maramu #376  From: amelyachtowners@...
> [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box    Just tighten
> the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine  BillBeBe 387  On
> Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman
> wrote:  I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422,
> currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing
> box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read
> every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts"
> can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is
> secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small
> tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for
> a haulout in about 6 months.   My inclination is to give it a
> small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My
> understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be
> done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone
> suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it
> comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm
> aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-
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thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

Thank you all for the responses. As an Amel owner for 5 years now, this forum has saved me tens of thousands of dollars and helped me understand these wonderful boats a bit better. 


Donato Valente
 

Good day everybody.
I've read this interesting conversation about servicing/adjusting the rudder stuffing box.
We've found a little leakage from the rudderpost and, based on your experiences, we would try to simply tighten the nylon nut instead of removing the quadrant.
I'm referring to the cut-to-size wrench photo posted by Eric of Kimberlite. 
Since we are in Italy now and plan to fly to Cuba, would prefer have the wrench made before leaving and need then the sizes for that.
Does anyone have these sizes ?
We plan to sail from Cuba/Hemingway to Panama/St Blas early april.
Will be pleased to smoke a cigar with any amelowner overthere.
Thanks for your help

Donato
SM2000 OCEAN BIRD n.468
now in Cuba




---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the photos section.

You need a large wrench and there is a small area to work.

You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align the nut with locking plate and you are done.

Repacking the rudder stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove. I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of packing.

I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is already precut, also a spare nut.

 

It was  suggested by dow corning  to use Molykote silicone grease  it is specially formulated for packing.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

 

 

Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months. 

 

My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.

 


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi,
I use an adjustable pipe wrench, it fits under the quadrant and works well. Very useful for a multitude of other tasks.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "ing.d.valente@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

 
Good day everybody.
I've read this interesting conversation about servicing/adjusting the rudder stuffing box.
We've found a little leakage from the rudderpost and, based on your experiences, we would try to simply tighten the nylon nut instead of removing the quadrant.
I'm referring to the cut-to-size wrench photo posted by Eric of Kimberlite. 
Since we are in Italy now and plan to fly to Cuba, would prefer have the wrench made before leaving and need then the sizes for that.
Does anyone have these sizes ?
We plan to sail from Cuba/Hemingway to Panama/St Blas early april.
Will be pleased to smoke a cigar with any amelowner overthere.
Thanks for your help

Donato
SM2000 OCEAN BIRD n.468
now in Cuba




---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the photos section.
You need a large wrench and there is a small area to work.
You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align the nut with locking plate and you are done.
Repacking the rudder stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove. I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of packing.
I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is already precut, also a spare nut.
 
It was  suggested by dow corning  to use Molykote silicone grease  it is specially formulated for packing.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box
 
 
Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine
 
Bill
BeBe 387
 
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:
 
I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months. 
 
My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.
 



Gregory Shea
 

Hi everyone, 
In the past I have made my own wrenches for stuffing boxes but I no longer have those facilities so I went to E Bay to see if I could find something off the shelf for my Sharki. The link below should take you into that part of E bay that caters to weird wrenches, 
I bought a pair of the 60 mm for my stern tube. 
Hope this adds to the store of knowledge

Greg Shea
Sharki 133
Cap des Iles


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 21:11:10 +0000
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

 

Hi,
I use an adjustable pipe wrench, it fits under the quadrant and works well. Very useful for a multitude of other tasks.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "ing.d.valente@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

 
Good day everybody.
I've read this interesting conversation about servicing/adjusting the rudder stuffing box.
We've found a little leakage from the rudderpost and, based on your experiences, we would try to simply tighten the nylon nut instead of removing the quadrant.
I'm referring to the cut-to-size wrench photo posted by Eric of Kimberlite. 
Since we are in Italy now and plan to fly to Cuba, would prefer have the wrench made before leaving and need then the sizes for that.
Does anyone have these sizes ?
We plan to sail from Cuba/Hemingway to Panama/St Blas early april.
Will be pleased to smoke a cigar with any amelowner overthere.
Thanks for your help

Donato
SM2000 OCEAN BIRD n.468
now in Cuba




---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the photos section.
You need a large wrench and there is a small area to work.
You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align the nut with locking plate and you are done.
Repacking the rudder stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove. I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of packing.
I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is already precut, also a spare nut.
 
It was  suggested by dow corning  to use Molykote silicone grease  it is specially formulated for packing.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box
 
 
Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine
 
Bill
BeBe 387
 
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:
 
I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months. 
 
My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.
 




Donato Valente
 

Thanks for your help. 
Unfortunately I'm far away from the boat and can't check if one of the suggested tools can fit. 
I will appreciate if someone can tell me the size of the nylon but on the SM2000 (year 2004). 
Thanks in advance. 
Donato 

Ocean Bird
SM2000 #468
In Cuba 


Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 16 mar 2016, alle ore 22:51, Gregory Shea gmshea@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Hi everyone, 
In the past I have made my own wrenches for stuffing boxes but I no longer have those facilities so I went to E Bay to see if I could find something off the shelf for my Sharki. The link below should take you into that part of E bay that caters to weird wrenches, 
I bought a pair of the 60 mm for my stern tube. 
Hope this adds to the store of knowledge

Greg Shea
Sharki 133
Cap des Iles


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 21:11:10 +0000
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

 

Hi,
I use an adjustable pipe wrench, it fits under the quadrant and works well. Very useful for a multitude of other tasks.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "ing.d.valente@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

 
Good day everybody.
I've read this interesting conversation about servicing/adjusting the rudder stuffing box.
We've found a little leakage from the rudderpost and, based on your experiences, we would try to simply tighten the nylon nut instead of removing the quadrant.
I'm referring to the cut-to-size wrench photo posted by Eric of Kimberlite. 
Since we are in Italy now and plan to fly to Cuba, would prefer have the wrench made before leaving and need then the sizes for that.
Does anyone have these sizes ?
We plan to sail from Cuba/Hemingway to Panama/St Blas early april.
Will be pleased to smoke a cigar with any amelowner overthere.
Thanks for your help

Donato
SM2000 OCEAN BIRD n.468
now in Cuba




---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the photos section.
You need a large wrench and there is a small area to work.
You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align the nut with locking plate and you are done.
Repacking the rudder stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove. I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of packing.
I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is already precut, also a spare nut.
 
It was  suggested by dow corning  to use Molykote silicone grease  it is specially formulated for packing.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box
 
 
Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine
 
Bill
BeBe 387
 
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:
 
I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months. 
 
My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.