[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Pat, All the best to you and Diane for Christmas also. And to all you others in the Amel Family we wish you the very best for the Christmas season. Danny And Yvonne Ocean Pearl SM 299 From: "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Monday, 14 December 2015 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Danny, I thought it to be a long shot and I know you usually find water in the oil. I thought perhaps a flaw in the gasket away from a oil passage but getting to a cylinder could result in lost compression , but I guess it would still fire on the other cylinders. My understanding is that if the secret switch was off or faulty , the engine would not turn over . Thanks for getting back, and Diane and I wish you and Yvonne a Merry Christmas !
Pat SM #123
-----Original Message----- From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2015 12:37 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Pat, I am no expert, I have just worked with diesel engines all my life. These weird problems baffle me too.With a blown head gasket usually only one or two cylinders are affected. With non electronic controlled engines with one the engine could start but be running on three. With two gone I would expect firing on the other two. Whether the electronics would make a difference I don't know. If the head gasket had blown during the last use (it wouldn't blow when unused) they would have heard the engine running rough or misfiring. Likewise with a warped head. Because of the sudden failure to start after a long successful run and no history of trouble I remain strongly suspicious it is an electrical/electronic fault. That's why I hoped a compression check could be done. The secret switch question highlights this. Does it have one? Is it faulty? Or is it a fault that mimics it.
We all feel for Jamie and I can see why he is leaning toward a new engine. I would have caved in long before now.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
From: "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Monday, 14 December 2015 3:23 AM Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Danny, I am not addressing this to Jamie, because I feel sorry for all the questions that he has had to respond to over the last month or so . I also know you can probably answer this. Could a blown head gasket and / or a warped head cause an engine from firing ? I have not heard this suggested and was wondering . Jamie very sorry for your problems .
Thanks,
Pat SM #123
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From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Sat, Dec 12, 2015 7:50 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would love to hear the engine has roared into life before we abandon the thread. Like your occams razor Eric
Cheers
Danny
From: "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2015 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Hi,
We have repeated this over and over again. A borescope would be good. However if the head is removed you can also see the valves and seats.
Seems like everyone agrees the head should come off. If I was there I am sure it would be at most a 3-4 hour job depending on how much other stuff has to come off (heat exchanger (possibly ) etc.
There is nothing to lose. As stated a few hand tools is all that is necessary. If the engine is totally shot—(Which I seriously doubt) just put it back together without gaskets and then change it.
The mechanics seem to be in a he said she said mode—how about some facts?? Do you know of
I THINK THIS THREAD HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...?]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:46 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work...
A LOT less than a new engine !!
Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man.
Give it a go !!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
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Patrick McAneny
Danny, I thought it to be a long shot and I know you usually find water in the oil. I thought perhaps a flaw in the gasket away from a oil passage but getting to a cylinder could result in lost compression , but I guess it would still fire on the other cylinders. My understanding is that if the secret switch was off or faulty , the engine would not turn over . Thanks for getting back, and Diane and I wish you and Yvonne a Merry Christmas !
Pat SM #123
-----Original Message----- From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2015 12:37 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Pat, I am no expert, I have just worked with diesel engines all my life. These weird problems baffle me too.With a blown head gasket usually only one or two cylinders are affected. With non electronic controlled engines with one the engine could start but be running on three. With two gone I would expect firing on the other two. Whether the electronics would make a difference I don't know. If the head gasket had blown during the last use (it wouldn't blow when unused) they would have heard the engine running rough or misfiring. Likewise with a warped head. Because of the sudden failure to start after a long successful run and no history of trouble I remain strongly suspicious it is an electrical/electronic fault. That's why I hoped a compression check could be done. The secret switch question highlights this. Does it have one? Is it faulty? Or is it a fault that mimics it.
We all feel for Jamie and I can see why he is leaning toward a new engine. I would have caved in long before now.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
From: "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Monday, 14 December 2015 3:23 AM Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Danny, I am not addressing this to Jamie, because I feel sorry for all the questions that he has had to respond to over the last month or so . I also know you can probably answer this. Could a blown head gasket and / or a warped head cause an engine from firing ? I have not heard this suggested and was wondering . Jamie very sorry for your problems .
Thanks,
Pat SM #123
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From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Sat, Dec 12, 2015 7:50 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would love to hear the engine has roared into life before we abandon the thread. Like your occams razor Eric
Cheers
Danny
From: "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2015 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Hi,
We have repeated this over and over again. A borescope would be good. However if the head is removed you can also see the valves and seats.
Seems like everyone agrees the head should come off. If I was there I am sure it would be at most a 3-4 hour job depending on how much other stuff has to come off (heat exchanger (possibly ) etc.
There is nothing to lose. As stated a few hand tools is all that is necessary. If the engine is totally shot—(Which I seriously doubt) just put it back together without gaskets and then change it.
The mechanics seem to be in a he said she said mode—how about some facts?? Do you know of
I THINK THIS THREAD HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...?]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:46 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work...
A LOT less than a new engine !!
Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man.
Give it a go !!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Pat, I am no expert, I have just worked with diesel engines all my life. These weird problems baffle me too.With a blown head gasket usually only one or two cylinders are affected. With non electronic controlled engines with one the engine could start but be running on three. With two gone I would expect firing on the other two. Whether the electronics would make a difference I don't know. If the head gasket had blown during the last use (it wouldn't blow when unused) they would have heard the engine running rough or misfiring. Likewise with a warped head. Because of the sudden failure to start after a long successful run and no history of trouble I remain strongly suspicious it is an electrical/electronic fault. That's why I hoped a compression check could be done. The secret switch question highlights this. Does it have one? Is it faulty? Or is it a fault that mimics it. We all feel for Jamie and I can see why he is leaning toward a new engine. I would have caved in long before now. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl From: "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Monday, 14 December 2015 3:23 AM Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Danny, I am not addressing this to Jamie, because I feel sorry for all the questions that he has had to respond to over the last month or so . I also know you can probably answer this. Could a blown head gasket and / or a warped head cause an engine from firing ? I have not heard this suggested and was wondering . Jamie very sorry for your problems .
Thanks,
Pat SM #123
-----Original Message----- From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Sat, Dec 12, 2015 7:50 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would love to hear the engine has roared into life before we abandon the thread. Like your occams razor Eric
Cheers
Danny
From: "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2015 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Hi,
We have repeated this over and over again. A borescope would be good. However if the head is removed you can also see the valves and seats.
Seems like everyone agrees the head should come off. If I was there I am sure it would be at most a 3-4 hour job depending on how much other stuff has to come off (heat exchanger (possibly ) etc.
There is nothing to lose. As stated a few hand tools is all that is necessary. If the engine is totally shot—(Which I seriously doubt) just put it back together without gaskets and then change it.
The mechanics seem to be in a he said she said mode—how about some facts?? Do you know of
I THINK THIS THREAD HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...?]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:46 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work...
A LOT less than a new engine !!
Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man.
Give it a go !!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
I will answer your question: It depends. Bill BeBe387 On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Patrick McAneny
Danny, I am not addressing this to Jamie, because I feel sorry for all the questions that he has had to respond to over the last month or so . I also know you can probably answer this. Could a blown head gasket and / or a warped head cause an engine from firing ? I have not heard this suggested and was wondering . Jamie very sorry for your problems .
Thanks,
Pat SM #123
-----Original Message----- From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Sat, Dec 12, 2015 7:50 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would love to hear the engine has roared into life before we abandon the thread. Like your occams razor Eric
Cheers
Danny
From: "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2015 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Hi,
We have repeated this over and over again. A borescope would be good. However if the head is removed you can also see the valves and seats.
Seems like everyone agrees the head should come off. If I was there I am sure it would be at most a 3-4 hour job depending on how much other stuff has to come off (heat exchanger (possibly ) etc.
There is nothing to lose. As stated a few hand tools is all that is necessary. If the engine is totally shot—(Which I seriously doubt) just put it back together without gaskets and then change it.
The mechanics seem to be in a he said she said mode—how about some facts?? Do you know of
I THINK THIS THREAD HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:46 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work...
A LOT less than a new engine !!
Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man.
Give it a go !!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
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seafeverofcuan@...
That would be by understanding as well Danny. The suggestion from Jamie's latest technician is that there may be water inside the engine via the exhaust due to low engine compression not pushing out the raw water via the exhaust.
I would think that is very unlikely. However, if there is, or was seawater in the engine,then how did it get there? There has been much discussion about low compression. Given that the engine initially was cold cranked and didn't start, then the sea water drained from the exhaust, etc. ( to avoid flooding/ hydraulic action) which would allow the engine to crank again. Could it be possible that either the valves are bent, or incorrectly seated as a result of the hydraulic effect of sea water, i.e. engine now cranking but not enough compression to fire? Until some one who knows what they are doing looks in side the engine , it is all speculation. Best regards, Trevor Seafever SM 425 Mexico |
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi again In my previous I left out the word "I " before "like". I noticed the absence changed the meaning. Regards Danny From: "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" To: "amelyachtowners@..." Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2015 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would love to hear the engine has roared into life before we abandon the thread. Like your occams razor Eric Cheers Danny From: "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2015 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Hi, We have repeated this over and over again. A borescope would be good. However if the head is removed you can also see the valves and seats. Seems like everyone agrees the head should come off. If I was there I am sure it would be at most a 3-4 hour job depending on how much other stuff has to come off (heat exchanger (possibly ) etc. There is nothing to lose. As stated a few hand tools is all that is necessary. If the engine is totally shot—(Which I seriously doubt) just put it back together without gaskets and then change it. The mechanics seem to be in a he said she said mode—how about some facts?? Do you know of I THINK THIS THREAD HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:46 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work... A LOT less than a new engine !! Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man. Give it a go !! Cheers Alan Elyse SM437 |
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
I would love to hear the engine has roared into life before we abandon the thread. Like your occams razor Eric Cheers Danny From: "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2015 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Hi, We have repeated this over and over again. A borescope would be good. However if the head is removed you can also see the valves and seats. Seems like everyone agrees the head should come off. If I was there I am sure it would be at most a 3-4 hour job depending on how much other stuff has to come off (heat exchanger (possibly ) etc. There is nothing to lose. As stated a few hand tools is all that is necessary. If the engine is totally shot—(Which I seriously doubt) just put it back together without gaskets and then change it. The mechanics seem to be in a he said she said mode—how about some facts?? Do you know of I THINK THIS THREAD HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:46 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work... A LOT less than a new engine !! Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man. Give it a go !! Cheers Alan Elyse SM437 |
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi, over cranking and not starting causes the engine to flood??? A flooded engine presumably has its cylinders full of water. Water does not compress so the engine would not turn over. The term used is the engine is hydrauliced" . This happens sometimes on powerboats with running engines when water enters through the air intake. The resulting sudden stop breaks con rods and or crank shafts. ergo. Flooded engines don't turn over. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl From: "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]" To: "amelyachtowners@..." Sent: Saturday, 12 December 2015 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 The siphon break is likely stainless steel as there is no visible corrosion on the outside (but it could be chrome-plated brass) - it is definitely not plastic. I did no more than about 3 cranks back in June before I shut off the intake. Water might have snuck in, but the engine would not start and did not flood with water. I am sure about that. I will take off the head to find out what is going on - either before yanking out the engine, or after the fact. But at this stage (6 months of testing, investigation, research, and opinions from many informed sources) I still intend to replace the engine, as I can NEVER go through this again, regardless of how "simple" it might be to solve once we truly ID the culprit(s). I cannot imagine the frustration if this happened in the middle of "nowhere." If I can figure out why it will not start, it might command a higher trade-in value. Who knows. Thanks for the support. Not sure if a record posting is an honor or not - sure would be though if I had gotten the engine running again. Definitely a topic for discussion............. Jamie s/v Phantom Amel 54 On Friday, December 11, 2015 2:07 PM, "seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote: Hi Jamie, Thank you for the reply. I am still unclear if the syphon break is brass or plastic, I am assuming plastic. If not then it is a potential source of raw water back flow. My understanding of cranking a cold marine engine is, three cranks with a non start, go back and check everything. There are three components for a diesel to run, clean air, fuel, and free exhaust so after checking all of those try two more cranks, total now of five cranks. If it hasn't started, go no further as you are now in danger of flooding your engine. At this point you must shut the sea chest and drain the sea water. All of the above painstakingly explained to me numerous times by the best Yanmar technician I have met, Raphael Serrano in Mazatlan Mexico. I think you now have the record for the highest number of postings ever on one subject. There is a genuine common cause to help you resolve this, effectively. Everyone who has my respect on this forum is asking the same question, which I am going to finally ask and then leave you in peace. Why not pull the head ( for the sake of the price of a head gasket) and get some had, cold - possibly wet facts? Whatever you do, we are all behind you and will continue to help when and where we can. Good luck.. Trevor Seafever
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sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Hi, We have repeated this over and over again. A borescope would be good. However if the head is removed you can also see the valves and seats. Seems like everyone agrees the head should come off. If I was there I am sure it would be at most a 3-4 hour job depending on how much other stuff has to come off (heat exchanger (possibly ) etc. There is nothing to lose. As stated a few hand tools is all that is necessary. If the engine is totally shot—(Which I seriously doubt) just put it back together without gaskets and then change it. The mechanics seem to be in a he said she said mode—how about some facts?? Do you know of
I THINK THIS THREAD HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:46 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54
I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work... A LOT less than a new engine !! Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man. Give it a go !! Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Jeff Wingfield <ki4jde@...>
We have one. Jeff LAST TANGO On Dec 12, 2015, at 10:18, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Bill, the 54 has a secret switch. Peter On 12 Dec 2015, at 11:18, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
Interesting idea - I have a basic bore scope, but I am not sure the head would fit into the bottom injector port, which is really small. Are there ones specifically for inspection through an injector hole? On Saturday, December 12, 2015 12:04 PM, "Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote: Jamie why not pull the injectors buy a bore scope and have a look. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All Capt Richard RP Yacht Brokerage Newport RI We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's Cell 603 767 5330 On Dec 12, 2015, at 10:50, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Jamie why not pull the injectors buy a bore scope and have a look. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All Capt Richard RP Yacht Brokerage Newport RI We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's Cell 603 767 5330 On Dec 12, 2015, at 10:50, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
Thanks, Just knew that a diesel will run if the Key is turned off and that I could hot wire start at the engine bypassing the key. Ric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 10:24 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54
The motor will not turn over if the so called "secret switch" is off Michael Last
svcallisto.blogspot.com
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Of course he checked the secret switch! Jamie, please tell me that you know about the secret switch? Although Jamie's is a 54...and I do not know if the new Amel management carried that forward.
Bill BeBe
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Jamie, May I suggest, as others have, to let the mechanic do the inspection, testing, disassembly, and rebuild as needed. Annapolis has some of the best and numerous mechanics in the world, plus about 200 waterman who could rebuild a engine in a weekend. If you give them a basket of parts, they won’t touch it. In my kitchen business, if a customer wants to help, we add 25% and cancel the warranty. Six months has gone by and you haven’t gone sailing on what I heard is a pristine Amel. Winter is a perfect time to have someone to pull the engine, fix it, and get you sailing in the Spring. See you on the bay. Would this “secret switch” be a possibility? I don’t have one. Ric Bali Hai SN24 Annapolis
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amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Alright, you all have convinced me to take off the head and check it out. We shall see. Thanks, Jamie s/v Phantom Amel 54
On Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:46 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work... A LOT less than a new engine !! Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man. Give it a go !! Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Michael Last <lastmd@...>
The motor will not turn over if the so called "secret switch" is off
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Michael Last
svcallisto.blogspot.com
-----Original Message----- From: 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners Sent: Sat, Dec 12, 2015 7:19 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54 Of course he checked the secret switch! Jamie, please tell me that you know about the secret switch? Although Jamie's is a 54...and I do not know if the new Amel management carried that forward.
Bill
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On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Of course he checked the secret switch! Jamie, please tell me that you know about the secret switch? Although Jamie's is a 54...and I do not know if the new Amel management carried that forward. Bill BeBe On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
Jamie, May I suggest, as others have, to let the mechanic do the inspection, testing, disassembly, and rebuild as needed. Annapolis has some of the best and numerous mechanics in the world, plus about 200 waterman who could rebuild a engine in a weekend. If you give them a basket of parts, they won’t touch it. In my kitchen business, if a customer wants to help, we add 25% and cancel the warranty. Six months has gone by and you haven’t gone sailing on what I heard is a pristine Amel. Winter is a perfect time to have someone to pull the engine, fix it, and get you sailing in the Spring. See you on the bay. Would this “secret switch” be a possibility? I don’t have one. Ric Bali Hai SN24 Annapolis
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 7:51 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine Problems Amel 54
Alright, you all have convinced me to take off the head and check it out. We shall see. Thanks, Jamie s/v Phantom Amel 54
On Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:46 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work... A LOT less than a new engine !! Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man. Give it a go !! Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
Alright, you all have convinced me to take off the head and check it out. We shall see. Thanks, Jamie s/v Phantom Amel 54 On Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:46 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote: I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work... A LOT less than a new engine !! Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man. Give it a go !! Cheers Alan Elyse SM437 |
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I would absolutely agree....pulling the head is not a big job...and it lets you see the guts of the engine...maybe it is buggered...but it may not be...all you need is a good socket set and some spanners and screw drivers, and hours work...
A LOT less than a new engine !! Almost any diesel engine can be repaired...they are the most robust means of propulsion known to man. Give it a go !! Cheers Alan Elyse SM437 |
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