[Amel Yacht Owners] Maintenance SSB antenna


sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

My triatic stay is separated electrically by two ceramic insulators.

Sorry I just left the boat.

However the attached link is very similar in style to the ones I have.

The insulators insulate the masts from the triatic stay and the coax is connected to the insulated section.

This was installed by Amel.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/371555128060?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 5:09 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maintenance SSB antenna

 

 

Good morning eveyone. I changed the triatic (main-mizzen) and now I have to reconnect a new coax (RG213) to the steel cable. Someone could give me direction on how to do and how to isolate it from the elements? Thank you all and good wind. Enio Rossi


rossienio@...
 

This goes well, thank you Eric. I,ve just done that. My problem is how to connect the coax cable that comes from the mizzen to the insulated part of the triatic. . Because if the triatic antenna wants be a dipole should also be insulated in the middle and have two half antennas. Or not? Greetings and good winds. Enio


sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

The triatic antenna is not a dipole. It is connected to the antenna part of the triatic close to the insulator

nearest the mizzen mast. The non-insulated part is about a foot long on either end.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 8:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maintenance SSB antenna

 

 

This goes well, thank you Eric. I,ve just done that. My problem is how to connect the coax cable that comes from the mizzen to the insulated part of the triatic. . Because if the triatic antenna wants be a dipole should also be insulated in the middle and have two half antennas. Or not? Greetings and good winds. Enio


rossienio@...
 

Thanks Eric, the insulated part of triatic is not a dipole. Well, the copper core of the coaxial is connected to the insulated  part of the triatic, but WHERE do I connect the shielding braid? A building site has replaced the triatic without reconnecting cables........ 


Alan Leslie
 

The insulated triatic is not useable as an SSB antenna.To answer the question though, the core of the coax is connected to the insulated triatic, the shiled is not connected to anything.
The triatic may work as a weatherfax receiver (its original intention) but as an SSB antenna it is useless...I know from experience.
I connected my antenna wire from the tuner to the main backstay and it worked well. WE now have an insulated backstay for our SSB antenna...insulated only to prevent shocking the crew...the Amel rig is not grounded.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

Alan, I have a Maramu and use the backstay as my SSB antenna.  It's been working well.  I was wondering if lengthening the antenna by  connecting my insulated triatic with gto-15 cable would improve reception/transmission.  

Thanks for any advise you can offer.
 
Bob
SV Chara
Currently in Fiji 

On Mar 2, 2016, at 7:45 AM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The insulated triatic is not useable as an SSB antenna.To answer the question though, the core of the coax is connected to the insulated triatic, the shiled is not connected to anything.

The triatic may work as a weatherfax receiver (its original intention) but as an SSB antenna it is useless...I know from experience.
I connected my antenna wire from the tuner to the main backstay and it worked well. WE now have an insulated backstay for our SSB antenna...insulated only to prevent shocking the crew...the Amel rig is not grounded.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Alan Leslie
 

Hi Bob,
If you have an automatic tuner there would be no advantage in connecting the triatic to your backstay. The tuner tunes the frequency to the length of the antenna automatically.
If you don't have an auto tuner then you need to be aware of the length of your antenna relative to the frequencies you want to use. Some will work well, others hardly at all.
Where in Fiji are you ?
You survived WINSTON ok ?
Cheers
Alan
Elyse
SM437


bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

Thanks Alan for the quick reply.  I do have an automatic tuner and wondered if tuning to the longer physical length by adding in the triatic would be an advantage. 

In at in a pit at Vuda Marina and we were spared the worst of the cyclone.  I came back to check the condition myself and found Chara in the same condition as I left her.  Much relieved!

There are three other Amels here and all look good.

Thanks again,    Bob 

On Mar 2, 2016, at 12:24 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bob,

If you have an automatic tuner there would be no advantage in connecting the triatic to your backstay. The tuner tunes the frequency to the length of the antenna automatically.
If you don't have an auto tuner then you need to be aware of the length of your antenna relative to the frequencies you want to use. Some will work well, others hardly at all.
Where in Fiji are you ?
You survived WINSTON ok ?
Cheers
Alan
Elyse
SM437


Alan Leslie
 

Hi Bob,

Good to know they are all OK...I saw a photo of Reve de Lune and Amelit in the cyclone pits and they are both apparently OK.

I doubt its worth the trouble with the triatic stay, good ground is more important.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

Cheers

On Mar 2, 2016, at 3:27 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bob,


Good to know they are all OK...I saw a photo of Reve de Lune and Amelit in the cyclone pits and they are both apparently OK.

I doubt its worth the trouble with the triatic stay, good ground is more important.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

HI,

You just use the core of the coax n use the triatic for navtex or weather fax.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maintenance SSB antenna

 

 

Thanks Eric, the insulated part of triatic is not a dipole. Well, the copper core of the coaxial is connected to the insulated  part of the triatic, but WHERE do I connect the shielding braid? A building site has replaced the triatic without reconnecting cables........ 


Bill <greatketch@...>
 

If you have a newer SSB (e.g., Icom 802) with a dedicated DSC receiver, the triatic would be good for that as well.

Bill Kinney
S/V Harmonie
SM #160
Hollywood Florida

On Mar 2, 2016, at 00:09, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

HI,

You just use the core of the coax n use the triatic for navtex or weather fax.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maintenance SSB antenna

 

 

Thanks Eric, the insulated part of triatic is not a dipole. Well, the copper core of the coaxial is connected to the insulated  part of the triatic, but WHERE do I connect the shielding braid? A building site has replaced the triatic without reconnecting cables........