[Amel Yacht Owners] Things Recently Learned:Outboard engines, Dinghy, & NMEA connections


Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Bill,

I was also told that 4 stroke should be store vertically… unlike the 2 stroke which can be store horizontally.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private slip in Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 3/8/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Things Recently Learned:Outboard engines, Dinghy, & NMEA connections
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 2:11 PM


 










We
replaced the dinghy and dinghy motor last moth. We
originally had an AB 3.2 Aluminum and a 15hp Mercury
2-stroke.
We bought a
upcoming brand of dinghy: 3D and a Honda 10hp 4-stroke,
which weighs more than the aluminum-bottom 3D 3.1m
dinghy.
Our problem
started to manifest themselves as soon as we tried to lift
the Honda engine onto the aft outside engine mount on BeBe.
The "universal" lifting harness would not
fit. After many hours and lots of modifications and
additions of webbing, it works...sort-of. Then I tried to
put the Honda 10hp in the aft Lazarette...it will not
fit. The biggest issue in not fitting is that the
control arm on the Mercury rotated 180 degrees from the
"in-use" position to the "store it in
the Lazarette" position. The Honda rotates only 90
degrees and WILL NOT FIT.
The other issue is with the 3D 3.1m
dinghy. It has all sorts of stuff that gets in the way when
lifting it vertically with the tops of the pontoons against
the life rail. Paddles mounted on top of the pontoon! Why
would the French do this...this is where you sit! I removed
the paddles from their oarlocks and then the oarlocks are a
problem. I removed all of the oarlock that I could remove
without "loosing air," and it is still a problem,
but works. 3D has an alternate place to mount the paddles on
the inside of the pontoon, but, with the really nice storage
box option offered by 3D, the paddles are too long to mount
there...I shortened the paddles so that they now mount on
the inside of the pontoon.
My next issue this week was
connecting NMEA to the Raymarine autopilot. There are two
places that you can do this. NMEA IN on the course computer
and NMEA IN on the 7001+ control head. The issue is that if
you connect multiple talkers through a multiplexer,
Raymarine will on listen to 1 of the talkers. Also, NMEA IN
on the course computer will not deliver Depth to one of the
7001+ display pages. For the 7001+ to display Depth, it must
receive that NMEA INput directly, not through the course
computer. The troubleshooting on this is lengthy and
frustrating. Rather than 1 NMEA wire from a multiplexer with
inputs from B&G and GPS, I think I will have to run 2
NMEA wires. B&G to the 7001+...then GPS to the course
computer.
Other than
those issues, things are great...we hosted 3 other Amel
couples on BeBe while in Le Marin, Martinique. It was great
meeting each of them.
BillBeBe
387Rodney Bay Marina for a week











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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

That may be true, but the Honda has small blocks on the starboard side of the engine that are to be used when storing horizontally. I was told it could be stored either way, but to be sure if storing it on its side, to use the starboard side.

I was not positive that this information (above) is correct, but I just checked the owner's manual and it states the same thing.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Bill,

I was also told that 4 stroke should be store vertically… unlike the 2 stroke which can be store horizontally.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private slip in Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/8/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Things Recently Learned:Outboard engines, Dinghy, & NMEA connections
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 2:11 PM




 










We
replaced the dinghy and dinghy motor last moth. We
originally had an AB 3.2 Aluminum and a 15hp Mercury
2-stroke.
We bought a
upcoming brand of dinghy: 3D and a Honda 10hp 4-stroke,
which weighs more than the aluminum-bottom 3D 3.1m
dinghy.
Our problem
started to manifest themselves as soon as we tried to lift
the Honda engine onto the aft outside engine mount on BeBe.
The "universal" lifting harness would not
fit. After many hours and lots of modifications and
additions of webbing, it works...sort-of. Then I tried to
put the Honda 10hp in the aft Lazarette...it will not
fit. The biggest issue in not fitting is that the
control arm on the Mercury rotated 180 degrees from the
"in-use" position to the "store it in
the Lazarette" position. The Honda rotates only 90
degrees and WILL NOT FIT.
The other issue is with the 3D 3.1m
dinghy. It has all sorts of stuff that gets in the way when
lifting it vertically with the tops of the pontoons against
the life rail. Paddles mounted on top of the pontoon! Why
would the French do this...this is where you sit! I removed
the paddles from their oarlocks and then the oarlocks are a
problem. I removed all of the oarlock that I could remove
without "loosing air," and it is still a problem,
but works. 3D has an alternate place to mount the paddles on
the inside of the pontoon, but, with the really nice storage
box option offered by 3D, the paddles are too long to mount
there...I shortened the paddles so that they now mount on
the inside of the pontoon.
My next issue this week was
connecting NMEA to the Raymarine autopilot. There are two
places that you can do this. NMEA IN on the course computer
and NMEA IN on the 7001+ control head. The issue is that if
you connect multiple talkers through a multiplexer,
Raymarine will on listen to 1 of the talkers. Also, NMEA IN
on the course computer will not deliver Depth to one of the
7001+ display pages. For the 7001+ to display Depth, it must
receive that NMEA INput directly, not through the course
computer. The troubleshooting on this is lengthy and
frustrating. Rather than 1 NMEA wire from a multiplexer with
inputs from B&G and GPS, I think I will have to run 2
NMEA wires. B&G to the 7001+...then GPS to the course
computer.
Other than
those issues, things are great...we hosted 3 other Amel
couples on BeBe while in Le Marin, Martinique. It was great
meeting each of them.
BillBeBe
387Rodney Bay Marina for a week











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Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good to know Bill,

I very much like my Yamaha Enduro 15 HP 2 stroke and would buy same/similar if had to, but good to know about the Honda that can be stored on starboard side, too bad it will easily fit…

sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 3/8/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Things Recently Learned:Outboard engines, Dinghy, & NMEA connections
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 3:46 PM


 









Alex,
That may be true, but the Honda has
small blocks on the starboard side of the engine that are to
be used when storing horizontally. I was told it could be
stored either way, but to be sure if storing it on its side,
to use the starboard side.
I was not positive that this
information (above) is correct, but I just checked the
owner's manual and it states the same
thing.
BillBeBe
387
On Tue,
Mar 8, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Hello Bill,



I was also told that 4 stroke should be store vertically…
unlike the 2 stroke which can be store horizontally.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Private slip in Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 3/8/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Things Recently
Learned:Outboard engines, Dinghy, & NMEA connections

To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 2:11 PM





 





















We

replaced the dinghy and dinghy motor last moth. We

originally had an AB 3.2 Aluminum and a 15hp Mercury

2-stroke.

We bought a

upcoming brand of dinghy: 3D and a Honda 10hp 4-stroke,

which weighs more than the aluminum-bottom 3D 3.1m

dinghy.

Our problem

started to manifest themselves as soon as we tried to
lift

the Honda engine onto the aft outside engine mount on
BeBe.

The "universal" lifting harness would not

fit. After many hours and lots of modifications and

additions of webbing, it works...sort-of. Then I tried
to

put the Honda 10hp in the aft Lazarette...it will not

fit. The biggest issue in not fitting is that the

control arm on the Mercury rotated 180 degrees from the

"in-use" position to the "store it in

the Lazarette" position. The Honda rotates only 90

degrees and WILL NOT FIT.

The other issue is with the 3D 3.1m

dinghy. It has all sorts of stuff that gets in the way
when

lifting it vertically with the tops of the pontoons
against

the life rail. Paddles mounted on top of the pontoon!
Why

would the French do this...this is where you sit! I
removed

the paddles from their oarlocks and then the oarlocks are
a

problem. I removed all of the oarlock that I could
remove

without "loosing air," and it is still a
problem,

but works. 3D has an alternate place to mount the paddles
on

the inside of the pontoon, but, with the really nice
storage

box option offered by 3D, the paddles are too long to
mount

there...I shortened the paddles so that they now mount
on

the inside of the pontoon.

My next issue this week was

connecting NMEA to the Raymarine autopilot. There are
two

places that you can do this. NMEA IN on the course
computer

and NMEA IN on the 7001+ control head. The issue is that
if

you connect multiple talkers through a multiplexer,

Raymarine will on listen to 1 of the talkers. Also, NMEA
IN

on the course computer will not deliver Depth to one of
the

7001+ display pages. For the 7001+ to display Depth, it
must

receive that NMEA INput directly, not through the course

computer. The troubleshooting on this is lengthy and

frustrating. Rather than 1 NMEA wire from a multiplexer
with

inputs from B&G and GPS, I think I will have to run
2

NMEA wires. B&G to the 7001+...then GPS to the
course

computer.

Other than

those issues, things are great...we hosted 3 other Amel

couples on BeBe while in Le Marin, Martinique. It was
great

meeting each of them.

BillBeBe

387Rodney Bay Marina for a week























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