[Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 55 layout
From: "Mawgan Grace gashman@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 55 layout
Mawgan Grace
Wow! Great timing for me. Thank you so much. I have to agree with your over-all position that marketing must have gotten too much power after the Master passed away. Although I have yet to own an Amel, I am a fan of the brilliant dedication to its purpose. And as a seasoned offshore sailor, I could not understand the layout change to something more like a Beneateau with a forward cabin that is not a serious passage making choice. Your other details have confirmed an unfortunate move to the mean of production boats. While my plans have not wavered to obtain an Amel for our planned circumnavigation, I am leaning towards a 54, and make her Bristol.Having said all that, I would love to hear from a 55 owner as to the usability of the forward master stateroom during offshore conditions on extended passages. Thank you all. You are a very generous owners group.Ken
Re Amel 55 layout et al.
Kenneth, I am very much in agreement with your assessment of the 54 vs. 55 layout.
If it can be of any help in forming your own opinion, or confusing you thoroughly, I am reiterating what I wrote a few months back concerning both boats:
“Having been a very satisfied owner of two boats bought new from Amel, one Maramu in 1981 and one SM in 1998, and having trialed the 55 as well as the 54, at my point in life (74), I would certainly consider owning a 54 but not a 55. Why? Because the 55, in my opinion, is definitely a faster sailing boat than her predecessors but she is probably not a better cruising boat. Here are my reasons:
Positives of the 55:
Faster boat, pointing higher than a 54 or SM, due to a good hull design by Racoupeau
No slapping of waves against the hull in the aft cabin, again due to a better hull design by Racoupeau
Rudder stock going through the hull in a watertight compartment (the lazarette) making for a safer arrangement
Negatives of the 55:
Very high freeboard
One more step (4 against 3) to go up or down from cockpit to saloon
Very deep engine room, difficult to access, and very narrow to work in, by virtue of its very depth
Disappearance of the large, and extremely useful, port cockpit locker, now replaced by a small and shallow little thing, hardly sufficient for ropes.
Spreaders too angled. This makes for better pointing but also considerably more mainsail chafing when abeam, a more usual point of sail when cruising.
No traveler to control the mainsail shape
Shroud chain plates not on the gunwales but moved inside, making it significantly more difficult to walk forward
Helmsman seat much too large and permanent table in the cockpit both make for an uncomfortable cockpit, much reduced in usable space.
And for the “coup de grâce”, the extraordinarily practical water meter stick has now disappeared!
The fuel tank new location (starboard rear passageway) makes for a fluctuating counterweight to the heavy portside generator, as fuel is being consumed gradually.
Having said all this, I’d rather be at sea in a 55 than an Oyster, but I am disappointed that Jean-Jacques Lemonnier has seen fit to discard so many of the excellent features of Amel’s previous designs.”
I would go so far as to say that Amel is now “managed” rather than driven by a strong willed, and occasionally cantankerous, mind such as Henri Amel. “Management” means “marketing” which means designing to the wishes of a public that has very little experience with boats. It’s a great pity as I do not know of any other yard that had come so close to building the nearly perfect cruising boat.
All in all I consider the 54 as the last “real” Amel, but the 55 remains much better than most other boats in its category.
And now, the decision is yours….!
Jean Boucharlat
Formerly SM 232
Sent: dimanche 20 mars 2016 16:07
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 55 layout
One thing I find counter-intuitive about the new 55 is the stateroom layout. I thought the 54 had the perfect layout, with aft owner's cabin and two guest cabins forward. The Amel 55 has the owners cabin forward, which I have always found unusable in weather. Can any owner of the 55 advise me on the usability of the owner's cabin in moderate to heavy seas? I inspected one in Newport and asked the Amel rep about this strange change, and he could only shrug his shoulders implicitly acknowledging the unique choice. Anyhow, wondering if others have opinions on this. We are torn between an Amel 54 and 55.
Mawgan Grace
Wow! Great timing for me. Thank you so much. I have to agree with your over-all position that marketing must have gotten too much power after the Master passed away. Although I have yet to own an Amel, I am a fan of the brilliant dedication to its purpose. And as a seasoned offshore sailor, I could not understand the layout change to something more like a Beneateau with a forward cabin that is not a serious passage making choice. Your other details have confirmed an unfortunate move to the mean of production boats. While my plans have not wavered to obtain an Amel for our planned circumnavigation, I am leaning towards a 54, and make her Bristol.
Having said all that, I would love to hear from a 55 owner as to the usability of the forward master stateroom during offshore conditions on extended passages. Thank you all. You are a very generous owners group.Ken