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Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Hi Gray you might want to have a look at Jolly Harbor in Antiqua It's fully enclosed and they have a lift there too and can put you on the hard for Aug and Sept. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All Capt Richard RP Yacht Brokerage Newport RI We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
On Apr 22, 2016, at 17:17, amelliahona < no_reply@...> wrote:
Hi all:
For 13 hurricane seasons I have always hauled my boat and put her on the hard during hurricane season except for one time when I left her in a canal in Ft. Lauderdale Florida (supposedly out of the hurricane box) where I had three hurricanes come within one hundred miles of her. After that Floridian experience I quickly returned to the Caribbean where I felt safer from hurricanes (inside the hurricane box). I have not thought of doing an "in-water-layup" until it was mentioned to me by my insurance broker that the cost was the same for insurance. Certainly a lot less hassle than hauling out and I am wondering if it would also potentially be safer than on the hard, [I saw pictures of the boats in Spice Island boatyard after Grenada's hurricane Ivan where the boats were toppled because the jack stands were pushed through the hulls of the boats].
My question is: What are other member's thoughts about laying up ashore vs laying up in the water for hurricane season. Any caveats? I put Liahona in a cradle on concrete for a number of years but cradle prices are now exorbitant and It always takes me three days on each end of the season to prepare for haul and relaunch.
Granted haul out allows servicing of various items out of the water (I have never done the service on the bow thruster in the water so that might be a new experience) etc. I am wondering if there are other issues such as bottom paint longevity, galvanic or stray current corrosion (although I never leave the boat plugged in while in the water except when I am aboard and when the caretaker plugs it in for 6 hours every other week to top up batteries) etc, etc.
Frank discussion is welcome.
Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM #335 Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico
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Kent Robertson
There's a good yard and lift at Marina Del Rey in Fajardo, PR. I haven't hauled out for long term or hurricane season, but it's a well run yard. Biggest issue with leaving her I the water during hurricane season is surge. I'd want to be in a slip by myself with floating dock and 12-15 ft of piling above high tide. I've been at Brunswick, GA and Fernandina BeachFL for three seasons. They haven't had a Class3 hurricane since the 1860s as it's the farthest West Point on the US east coast.
Kent SM243 Kristy
On Apr 22, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi Gray you might want to have a look at Jolly Harbor in Antiqua It's fully enclosed and they have a lift there too and can put you on the hard for Aug and Sept. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All Capt Richard RP Yacht Brokerage Newport RI We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
On Apr 22, 2016, at 17:17, amelliahona < no_reply@...> wrote:
Hi all:
For 13 hurricane seasons I have always hauled my boat and put her on the hard during hurricane season except for one time when I left her in a canal in Ft. Lauderdale Florida (supposedly out of the hurricane box) where I had three hurricanes come within one hundred miles of her. After that Floridian experience I quickly returned to the Caribbean where I felt safer from hurricanes (inside the hurricane box). I have not thought of doing an "in-water-layup" until it was mentioned to me by my insurance broker that the cost was the same for insurance. Certainly a lot less hassle than hauling out and I am wondering if it would also potentially be safer than on the hard, [I saw pictures of the boats in Spice Island boatyard after Grenada's hurricane Ivan where the boats were toppled because the jack stands were pushed through the hulls of the boats].
My question is: What are other member's thoughts about laying up ashore vs laying up in the water for hurricane season. Any caveats? I put Liahona in a cradle on concrete for a number of years but cradle prices are now exorbitant and It always takes me three days on each end of the season to prepare for haul and relaunch.
Granted haul out allows servicing of various items out of the water (I have never done the service on the bow thruster in the water so that might be a new experience) etc. I am wondering if there are other issues such as bottom paint longevity, galvanic or stray current corrosion (although I never leave the boat plugged in while in the water except when I am aboard and when the caretaker plugs it in for 6 hours every other week to top up batteries) etc, etc.
Frank discussion is welcome.
Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM #335 Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico
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Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
I think that you have to take in rgard what your insurance company has to tell about beeing in the hurricane zone. Our swedish insurance company has very strikt rules. I don't have them infront of me right now, but there is a geografical limitation, beeing within that during the specified hurricane season, on the hard you have to be in a cradel and tighed to ground. All loos things has to be removed from the boat. If in the water there was a number of things to be fullfilled. But it was quite OK to be out on the sea.
/Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232, 1998.
Skickat från min iPad
There's a good yard and lift at Marina Del Rey in Fajardo, PR. I haven't hauled out for long term or hurricane season, but it's a well run yard. Biggest issue with leaving her I the water during hurricane season is surge. I'd want to be in a slip by myself with floating dock and 12-15 ft of piling above high tide. I've been at Brunswick, GA and Fernandina BeachFL for three seasons. They haven't had a Class3 hurricane since the 1860s as it's the farthest West Point on the US east coast.
Kent SM243 Kristy
Hi Gray you might want to have a look at Jolly Harbor in Antiqua It's fully enclosed and they have a lift there too and can put you on the hard for Aug and Sept. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All Capt Richard RP Yacht Brokerage Newport RI We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
On Apr 22, 2016, at 17:17, amelliahona < no_reply@...> wrote:
Hi all:
For 13 hurricane seasons I have always hauled my boat and put her on the hard during hurricane season except for one time when I left her in a canal in Ft. Lauderdale Florida (supposedly out of the hurricane box) where I had three hurricanes come within one hundred miles of her. After that Floridian experience I quickly returned to the Caribbean where I felt safer from hurricanes (inside the hurricane box). I have not thought of doing an "in-water-layup" until it was mentioned to me by my insurance broker that the cost was the same for insurance. Certainly a lot less hassle than hauling out and I am wondering if it would also potentially be safer than on the hard, [I saw pictures of the boats in Spice Island boatyard after Grenada's hurricane Ivan where the boats were toppled because the jack stands were pushed through the hulls of the boats].
My question is: What are other member's thoughts about laying up ashore vs laying up in the water for hurricane season. Any caveats? I put Liahona in a cradle on concrete for a number of years but cradle prices are now exorbitant and It always takes me three days on each end of the season to prepare for haul and relaunch.
Granted haul out allows servicing of various items out of the water (I have never done the service on the bow thruster in the water so that might be a new experience) etc. I am wondering if there are other issues such as bottom paint longevity, galvanic or stray current corrosion (although I never leave the boat plugged in while in the water except when I am aboard and when the caretaker plugs it in for 6 hours every other week to top up batteries) etc, etc.
Frank discussion is welcome.
Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM #335 Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico
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Check out hole 3 in Georgetown, Exuma. Contact Bob Cronin at aka allis House. I would stay there if my insurance company would cooperate. There are a couple of yards in Long Island for haul out, including a marine railway.
Kent, I assume are you happy with Brunswick Landing. I am considering going there. Do they have the capacity to pull boats out of the water in the event of an approaching storm? Would you want or need to?
Ian Townsend SM 153 Loca Lola II
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Arghh, spellcheck!!! KAVALLI House is the operator of hole 3 in Stocking Island, George Town, Exuma.
Ian Townsend
SM 153 Loca Lola II
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Ian,
We had our SM in Brunswick Landing marina summer before last. It was a good hurricane hole, and they have not had a hurricane there for a very long time.
They do have a small yard that could haul you right next door, but the yard has a horrible reputation, and you would be safer in the water.
We thought the marina was a great and inexpensive spot for hurricane season.
Steve Davis Aloha SM72 Currently in Martinique
On Apr 23, 2016, at 07:12, francesringley@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Check out hole 3 in Georgetown, Exuma. Contact Bob Cronin at aka allis House. I would stay there if my insurance company would cooperate. There are a couple of yards in Long Island for haul out, including a marine railway.
Kent, I assume are you happy with Brunswick Landing. I am considering going there. Do they have the capacity to pull boats out of the water in the event of an approaching storm? Would you want or need to?
Ian Townsend SM 153 Loca Lola II
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Kent Robertson
Hi Ian. There is a lift there, but it looked old and not well maintained last time I saw it a couple years ago. There's a better place to haul out at Tiger Point Marina and boatyard a daysail South in Fernandina Beach, FL. I would probably leave my boat in the water at Brunswick Landing. Almost zero chance of getting a direct hurricane hit there and it is well protected. Kent SM243 Kristy
On Apr 23, 2016, at 7:12 AM, francesringley@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Check out hole 3 in Georgetown, Exuma. Contact Bob Cronin at aka allis House. I would stay there if my insurance company would cooperate. There are a couple of yards in Long Island for haul out, including a marine railway.
Kent, I assume are you happy with Brunswick Landing. I am considering going there. Do they have the capacity to pull boats out of the water in the event of an approaching storm? Would you want or need to?
Ian Townsend SM 153 Loca Lola II
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Kent Robertson
There's also a nice Morningstar Marina there, but far enough from town that you'd probably want a car. The price is about the same, but Morningstar has nicer amenities, pool, and a great restaurant. It is more exposed if a major storm were to land there. Kent
On Apr 23, 2016, at 7:12 AM, francesringley@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Check out hole 3 in Georgetown, Exuma. Contact Bob Cronin at aka allis House. I would stay there if my insurance company would cooperate. There are a couple of yards in Long Island for haul out, including a marine railway.
Kent, I assume are you happy with Brunswick Landing. I am considering going there. Do they have the capacity to pull boats out of the water in the event of an approaching storm? Would you want or need to?
Ian Townsend SM 153 Loca Lola II
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Thanks Kent. As of today, we're booked for June 1. Will check out the travelift and see. If not and should we need it, then Fernandina as you suggest.
Ian SM153 Loca Lola II
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