[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch


Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good memory Kent,

I purchased 2 from
Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999
Esteban Contreras estebanc@easylift.com

A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel
Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall
400 NM resistance
The stroke is 8 mm
The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm
With 8 mm hinge on each side.

Took a few weeks to build
They were $125 each (and free shipping).

These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for 10.000 opening... 
They also had a cheaper standard line.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM


 









Hi Ben,If you look back several
months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted a
source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very
reasonably
priced.KentSM243Kristy 
On Jun 20,
2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Bill, Did you buy these struts
from Amel?Ben

Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG
#1120066SM #347
Sent from my
iPad
On Jun 20, 2016,
at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Derick,
My experience is they will last
about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I
think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but that
is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are
rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except to
keep them clean.
It is
easy to bend one of these if you close the lid improperly.
The proper way to close is to press down on the middle of
the engine room lid.
Best, 
BillBeBe 387le
Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at
11:58 PM, derickgates@comcast.net
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Ben,  
I am
glad that you were able to find swift and competent care for
what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for sharing
this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more care
when operating the engine room hatch.  
One of my gas struts had been
stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had to
replace it.  I found that after replacement of the strut
that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than
before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need to
be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have a
suggestion as to how long they should last?
Derick GatesSM2K#400
BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for
hurricane season.


karkauai
 

Bon Tardi from Curaçao, Alex.  I guess you set the standard with Bansbach.  By the time I bought mine they were $75 each including shipping.  It's rare that I get a better price than someone else!
Kent



On Jun 20, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good memory Kent,

I purchased 2 from
Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999
Esteban Contreras estebanc@...

A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel
Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall
400 NM resistance
The stroke is 8 mm
The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm
With 8 mm hinge on each side.

Took a few weeks to build
They were $125 each (and free shipping).

These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for 10.000 opening... 
They also had a cheaper standard line.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM


 









Hi Ben,If you look back several
months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted a
source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very
reasonably
priced.KentSM243Kristy 
On Jun 20,
2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Bill, Did you buy these struts
from Amel?Ben

Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG
#1120066SM #347
Sent from my
iPad
On Jun 20, 2016,
at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Derick,
My experience is they will last
about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I
think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but that
is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are
rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except to
keep them clean.
It is
easy to bend one of these if you close the lid improperly.
The proper way to close is to press down on the middle of
the engine room lid.
Best, 
BillBeBe 387le
Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at
11:58 PM, derickgates@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Ben,  
I am
glad that you were able to find swift and competent care for
what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for sharing
this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more care
when operating the engine room hatch.  
One of my gas struts had been
stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had to
replace it.  I found that after replacement of the strut
that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than
before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need to
be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have a
suggestion as to how long they should last?
Derick GatesSM2K#400
BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for
hurricane season.




Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Kent,

I remember not long after when I changed mine (May 2013), the question came on the forum and being very new I did not want to say how much I paid for them as I thought I paid way too much…
Only time will say if it was a good decision.
There is no way I will ever reach the 10.000 opening, just curious if they will last longer than the others…

Regardless the technical information can help other finding different products!

How do you like Curacao?

Off forum, just back from the Dermatologist, as I was worrying about a mole getting larger, thankfully was benign!

Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 4:02 PM


 









Bon Tardi from Curaçao, Alex.  I guess
you set the standard with Bansbach.  By the time I bought
mine they were $75 each including shipping.  It's rare
that I get a better price than someone else!Kent
On Jun 20,
2016, at 4:36 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Good memory Kent,



I purchased 2 from

Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999

Esteban Contreras estebanc@easylift.com



A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel

Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall

400 NM resistance

The stroke is 8 mm

The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm

With 8 mm hinge on each side.



Took a few weeks to build

They were $125 each (and free shipping).



These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for
10.000 opening... 

They also had a cheaper standard line.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room
hatch

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM





 



















Hi Ben,If you look back several

months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted
a

source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very

reasonably

priced.KentSM243Kristy 

On Jun 20,

2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

































 













Bill, Did you buy these struts

from Amel?Ben



Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG

#1120066SM #347

Sent from my

iPad

On Jun 20, 2016,

at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

































 













Derick,

My experience is they will last

about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I

think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but
that

is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are

rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except
to

keep them clean.

It is

easy to bend one of these if you close the lid
improperly.

The proper way to close is to press down on the middle
of

the engine room lid.

Best, 

BillBeBe 387le

Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at

11:58 PM, derickgates@comcast.net

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:































 



















Ben,  

I am

glad that you were able to find swift and competent care
for

what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for
sharing

this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more
care

when operating the engine room hatch.  

One of my gas struts had been

stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had
to

replace it.  I found that after replacement of the
strut

that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than

before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need
to

be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have
a

suggestion as to how long they should last?

Derick GatesSM2K#400

BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for

hurricane season.






























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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

alex,

That description is not complete because you also need the specification of each end where they are connected. 
I am not sure of the specification, but I am sure that this is a variable specification that needs identification.

Like I said, Ben, it is complicated.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good memory Kent,

I purchased 2 from
Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999
Esteban Contreras estebanc@...

A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel
Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall
400 NM resistance
The stroke is 8 mm
The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm
With 8 mm hinge on each side.

Took a few weeks to build
They were $125 each (and free shipping).

These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for 10.000 opening... 
They also had a cheaper standard line.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM


 









Hi Ben,If you look back several
months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted a
source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very
reasonably
priced.KentSM243Kristy 
On Jun 20,
2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Bill, Did you buy these struts
from Amel?Ben

Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG
#1120066SM #347


Sent from my
iPad
On Jun 20, 2016,
at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Derick,
My experience is they will last
about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I
think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but that
is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are
rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except to
keep them clean.
It is
easy to bend one of these if you close the lid improperly.
The proper way to close is to press down on the middle of
the engine room lid.
Best, 
BillBeBe 387le
Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at
11:58 PM, derickgates@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Ben,  
I am
glad that you were able to find swift and competent care for
what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for sharing
this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more care
when operating the engine room hatch.  
One of my gas struts had been
stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had to
replace it.  I found that after replacement of the strut
that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than
before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need to
be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have a
suggestion as to how long they should last?
Derick GatesSM2K#400
BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for
hurricane season.





Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Bill,

I am not technical at all, but isn’t it the “8 mm hinge on each side” the specification of the ends?

I just posted the drawing Bansbach sent me on http://nikimat.com/engine_room_hatch_gas_strut.html
Hope that helps.

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 6:44 PM


 









alex,
That description is not complete
because you also need the specification of each end where
they are connected. I am not sure of the
specification, but I am sure that this is a variable
specification that needs identification.
Like I said, Ben, it is
complicated.
BillBeBe
387
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at
9:36 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Good memory Kent,



I purchased 2 from

Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999

Esteban Contreras estebanc@easylift.com



A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel

Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall

400 NM resistance

The stroke is 8 mm

The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm

With 8 mm hinge on each side.



Took a few weeks to build

They were $125 each (and free shipping).



These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for
10.000 opening... 

They also had a cheaper standard line.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room
hatch

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM





 



















Hi Ben,If you look back several

months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted
a

source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very

reasonably

priced.KentSM243Kristy 

On Jun 20,

2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

































 













Bill, Did you buy these struts

from Amel?Ben



Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG

#1120066SM #347

Sent from my

iPad

On Jun 20, 2016,

at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

































 













Derick,

My experience is they will last

about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I

think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but
that

is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are

rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except
to

keep them clean.

It is

easy to bend one of these if you close the lid
improperly.

The proper way to close is to press down on the middle
of

the engine room lid.

Best, 

BillBeBe 387le

Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at

11:58 PM, derickgates@comcast.net

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:































 



















Ben,  

I am

glad that you were able to find swift and competent care
for

what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for
sharing

this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more
care

when operating the engine room hatch.  

One of my gas struts had been

stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had
to

replace it.  I found that after replacement of the
strut

that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than

before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need
to

be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have
a

suggestion as to how long they should last?

Derick GatesSM2K#400

BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for

hurricane season.







































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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

If you look at the drawing you posted you omitted the end piece specifications which is R8.0 thickness 10 for each end, diameter of the hole in the end which is 8.2mm, and length of the end piece which is 20mm from hole center to pushrod. I think that all of these are correct, except thickness, which I believe should be 8 or 9mm.

Take another look at your drawing at http://nikimat.com/engine_room_hatch_gas_strut.html. There are 12 specifications listed on that drawing...and each is variable. In addition, there is one more specification which is the force...it should be N400.

So, there are 13 different variable specifications when ordering these. It is not a simple task to get correct. My friend, another SM owner got it mostly correct. I had to drill the end holes because he ordered 8mm, and it needed to be larger...your drawing shoes 8.2mm, and I think that is correct. Also, like you, my friend ordered 10mm thickness for the ends, but the original Amel strut was 8mm thick. I had to modify some things and it almost did not fit.

If you still have an old strut and you know it is original, compare it to all of the specs on your drawing.

It is more complicated than you think, and sometimes we get lucky!

Best,

Bill

 

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good morning Bill,

I am not technical at all, but isn’t it the “8 mm hinge on each side” the specification of the ends?

I just posted the drawing Bansbach sent me on http://nikimat.com/engine_room_hatch_gas_strut.html
Hope that helps.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 6/20/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 6:44 PM




 









alex,
That description is not complete
because you also need the specification of each end where
they are connected. I am not sure of the
specification, but I am sure that this is a variable
specification that needs identification.
Like I said, Ben, it is
complicated.
BillBeBe
387
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at
9:36 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Good memory Kent,



I purchased 2 from

Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999

Esteban Contreras estebanc@...



A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel

Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall

400 NM resistance

The stroke is 8 mm

The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm

With 8 mm hinge on each side.



Took a few weeks to build

They were $125 each (and free shipping).



These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for
10.000 opening... 

They also had a cheaper standard line.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room
hatch

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM





 



















Hi Ben,If you look back several

months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted
a

source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very

reasonably

priced.KentSM243Kristy 

On Jun 20,

2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@...

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

































 













Bill, Did you buy these struts

from Amel?Ben



Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG

#1120066SM #347

Sent from my

iPad

On Jun 20, 2016,

at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@...

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

































 













Derick,

My experience is they will last

about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I

think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but
that

is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are

rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except
to

keep them clean.

It is

easy to bend one of these if you close the lid
improperly.

The proper way to close is to press down on the middle
of

the engine room lid.

Best, 

BillBeBe 387le

Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at

11:58 PM, derickgates@...

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:































 



















Ben,  

I am

glad that you were able to find swift and competent care
for

what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for
sharing

this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more
care

when operating the engine room hatch.  

One of my gas struts had been

stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had
to

replace it.  I found that after replacement of the
strut

that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than

before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need
to

be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have
a

suggestion as to how long they should last?

Derick GatesSM2K#400

BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for

hurricane season.







































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Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Bill,

I now understand what you mean by the 10 mm thickness!!! Around the R8.0 !!!

I no longer have the previous gas strut (which I don’t know if the were original), but on them was written:

RIVEN
588539.00
213601.00004
F1=400N 299/99

I don’t know what it means (except for the 400 newton), I sent it at the time to Bansbach.

As always thanks for the help, precision on understanding the specs!

Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 6/21/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2016, 7:37 AM


 









Alex,
If you look at the drawing you
posted you omitted the end piece specifications which is
R8.0 thickness 10 for each end, diameter of the hole in the
end which is 8.2mm, and length of the end piece which is
20mm from hole center to pushrod. I think that all of these
are correct, except thickness, which I believe should be 8
or 9mm.
Take another look at
your drawing at http://nikimat.com/engine_room_hatch_gas_strut.html.
There are 12 specifications listed on that drawing...and
each is variable. In addition, there is one more
specification which is the force...it should be
N400.
So, there are 13
different variable specifications when ordering these. It is
not a simple task to get correct. My friend, another SM
owner got it mostly correct. I had to drill the end holes
because he ordered 8mm, and it needed to be larger...your
drawing shoes 8.2mm, and I think that is correct. Also, like
you, my friend ordered 10mm thickness for the ends, but the
original Amel strut was 8mm thick. I had to modify some
things and it almost did not fit.
If you still have an old strut and
you know it is original, compare it to all of the specs on
your drawing.
It is
more complicated than you think, and sometimes we get
lucky!
Best,
Bill

 
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at
11:43 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Good morning Bill,



I am not technical at all, but isn’t it the “8 mm hinge
on each side” the specification of the ends?



I just posted the drawing Bansbach sent me on http://nikimat.com/engine_room_hatch_gas_strut.html

Hope that helps.



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine
room hatch

To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 6:44 PM





 



















alex,

That description is not complete

because you also need the specification of each end
where

they are connected. I am not sure of the

specification, but I am sure that this is a variable

specification that needs identification.

Like I said, Ben, it is

complicated.

BillBeBe

387

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at

9:36 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:































 



















Good memory Kent,







I purchased 2 from



Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999



Esteban Contreras estebanc@easylift.com







A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel



Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall



400 NM resistance



The stroke is 8 mm



The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm



With 8 mm hinge on each side.







Took a few weeks to build



They were $125 each (and free shipping).







These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for

10.000 opening... 



They also had a cheaper standard line.







Sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico







--------------------------------------------



On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:







Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine
room

hatch



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM











 







































Hi Ben,If you look back several



months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted

a



source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very



reasonably



priced.KentSM243Kristy 



On Jun 20,



2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com



[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



wrote:



































































 



























Bill, Did you buy these struts



from Amel?Ben







Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG



#1120066SM #347



Sent from my



iPad



On Jun 20, 2016,



at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com



[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



wrote:



































































 



























Derick,



My experience is they will last



about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two.
I



think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but

that



is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they
are



rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except

to



keep them clean.



It is



easy to bend one of these if you close the lid

improperly.



The proper way to close is to press down on the middle

of



the engine room lid.



Best, 



BillBeBe 387le



Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days



On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at



11:58 PM, derickgates@comcast.net



[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



wrote:































































 







































Ben,  



I am



glad that you were able to find swift and competent
care

for



what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for

sharing



this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more

care



when operating the engine room hatch.  



One of my gas struts had been



stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had

to



replace it.  I found that after replacement of the

strut



that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than



before it got bent.  I think that these struts may
need

to



be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone
have

a



suggestion as to how long they should last?



Derick GatesSM2K#400



BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for



hurricane season.















































































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Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Yep. It does sound complex.  One sizing  error and you may be stuck with piece you cannot use.  No joy.

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
CG #1120066
SM #347

On Jun 20, 2016, at 7:44 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

alex,

That description is not complete because you also need the specification of each end where they are connected. 
I am not sure of the specification, but I am sure that this is a variable specification that needs identification.

Like I said, Ben, it is complicated.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good memory Kent,

I purchased 2 from
Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999
Esteban Contreras estebanc@...

A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel
Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall
400 NM resistance
The stroke is 8 mm
The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm
With 8 mm hinge on each side.

Took a few weeks to build
They were $125 each (and free shipping).

These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for 10.000 opening... 
They also had a cheaper standard line.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM


 









Hi Ben,If you look back several
months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted a
source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very
reasonably
priced.KentSM243Kristy 
On Jun 20,
2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Bill, Did you buy these struts
from Amel?Ben

Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG
#1120066SM #347


Sent from my
iPad
On Jun 20, 2016,
at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Derick,
My experience is they will last
about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I
think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but that
is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are
rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except to
keep them clean.
It is
easy to bend one of these if you close the lid improperly.
The proper way to close is to press down on the middle of
the engine room lid.
Best, 
BillBeBe 387le
Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at
11:58 PM, derickgates@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Ben,  
I am
glad that you were able to find swift and competent care for
what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for sharing
this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more care
when operating the engine room hatch.  
One of my gas struts had been
stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had to
replace it.  I found that after replacement of the strut
that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than
before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need to
be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have a
suggestion as to how long they should last?
Derick GatesSM2K#400
BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for
hurricane season.