[Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location


Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I think I know where it is, but I can't get there right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the location.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Andrew,

I know of one other owner who had the same problem with their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000 and 4,000 Euros!

When you have a chance please share your information, because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.

It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now understand how it could. I do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I can't get to mine right now and will look later. I suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will search.

Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know that most battery suppliers will provide this service.

Thanks,

Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi

 

So I managed to find a local motor engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind generators, etc) they have completely rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the problem. Does anyone know the specifications of the main bow thruster motor relay?

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM 472

Canet en Roussillon

__.



Beaute Olivier
 

In an SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a protection piece of plywood.

Olivier


On Friday, July 1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Kent,

I think I know where it is, but I can't get there right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the location.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Andrew,

I know of one other owner who had the same problem with their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000 and 4,000 Euros!

When you have a chance please share your information, because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.

It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now understand how it could. I do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I can't get to mine right now and will look later. I suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will search.

Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know that most battery suppliers will provide this service.

Thanks,

Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind generators, etc) they have completely rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the problem. Does anyone know the specifications of the main bow thruster motor relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en Roussillon
__.





Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side wall.

Andrew
SM 472


Begin forwarded message:

From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>
Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

In an SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a protection piece of plywood.

Olivier


On Friday, July 1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Kent,

I think I know where it is, but I can't get there right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the location.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Andrew,

I know of one other owner who had the same problem with their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000 and 4,000 Euros!

When you have a chance please share your information, because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.

It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now understand how it could. I do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I can't get to mine right now and will look later. I suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will search.

Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know that most battery suppliers will provide this service.

Thanks,

Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind generators, etc) they have completely rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the problem. Does anyone know the specifications of the main bow thruster motor relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en Roussillon
__.





Beaute Olivier
 

Yes Andrew, you have the bow-thruster located in a watertight compartment, not allowing a watertight duct for the cables, but I think on Kent's (and most probably on all the SMs that don't have a watertight bow-thruster compartment) the solenoids are below the berth.
Kent will tell us what he finds...

Olivier.


On Friday, July 1, 2016 6:09 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side wall.

Andrew
SM 472


Begin forwarded message:

From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>
Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

In an SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a protection piece of plywood.

Olivier


On Friday, July 1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Kent,

I think I know where it is, but I can't get there right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the location.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Andrew,

I know of one other owner who had the same problem with their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000 and 4,000 Euros!

When you have a chance please share your information, because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.

It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now understand how it could. I do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I can't get to mine right now and will look later. I suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will search.

Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know that most battery suppliers will provide this service.

Thanks,

Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind generators, etc) they have completely rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the problem. Does anyone know the specifications of the main bow thruster motor relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en Roussillon
__.







Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I looked and I think mine are at the same place...
I did not follow the wire (short on time because of work), but unless they are other solenoids, mine are there.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 7/1/16, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 11:39 AM


 









Yes
Andrew, you have the bow-thruster located in a watertight
compartment, not allowing a watertight duct for the cables,
but I think on Kent's (and most probably on all the SMs
that don't have a watertight bow-thruster compartment)
the solenoids are below the berth.Kent
will tell us what he finds...
Olivier.


On Friday, July 1,
2016 6:09 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@telemed.co.uk
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



 













Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster
compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side
wall.



Andrew
SM
472
Begin forwarded message:





From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@yahoo.com>

Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST

To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@telemed.co.uk>

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster
Motor Solenoid Location

Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@yahoo.com>








In an
SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the
front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a
protection piece of plywood.



Olivier








On Friday, July
1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse'
yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:








 




Kent,



I think I know where it is, but I can't get there
right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the
location.



Bill
BeBe 387


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at
11:45 AM, Kent Robertson

karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



 




Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy
On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'

yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:




 



Andrew,



I know of one other owner who had the same problem with
their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship
the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some
unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000
and 4,000 Euros!



When you have a chance please share your information,
because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it
may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.



It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause
might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not
considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would
cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now
understand how it could. I
do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I
can't get to mine right now and will look later. I
suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will
search.



Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for
internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know
that most battery suppliers will provide this service.




Thanks,



Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at
8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb

andrew.lamb@telemed.co.uk [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



 





Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor
engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in
repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind
generators, etc) they have completely
rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the
commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly
advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow
thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the
problem. Does anyone know the
specifications of the main bow thruster motor
relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en
Roussillon



__.


































































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karkauai
 

Mine are on the port side under the berth attached to the aft side of the chain locker's watertight bulkhead.  There is a small panel that separates them from the air conditioner.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I looked and I think mine are at the same place...
I did not follow the wire (short on time because of work), but unless they are other solenoids, mine are there.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 7/1/16, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 11:39 AM


 









Yes
Andrew, you have the bow-thruster located in a watertight
compartment, not allowing a watertight duct for the cables,
but I think on Kent's (and most probably on all the SMs
that don't have a watertight bow-thruster compartment)
the solenoids are below the berth.Kent
will tell us what he finds...
Olivier.


On Friday, July 1,
2016 6:09 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



 













Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster
compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side
wall.



Andrew
SM
472





Begin forwarded message:





From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST

To: "amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster
Motor Solenoid Location

Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>








In an
SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the
front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a
protection piece of plywood.



Olivier








On Friday, July
1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse'
yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:








 




Kent,



I think I know where it is, but I can't get there
right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the
location.



Bill
BeBe 387


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at
11:45 AM, Kent Robertson

karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



 




Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy







On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'

yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:




 



Andrew,



I know of one other owner who had the same problem with
their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship
the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some
unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000
and 4,000 Euros!



When you have a chance please share your information,
because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it
may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.



It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause
might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not
considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would
cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now
understand how it could. I
do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I
can't get to mine right now and will look later. I
suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will
search.



Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for
internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know
that most battery suppliers will provide this service.




Thanks,



Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at
8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb

andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



 





Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor
engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in
repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind
generators, etc) they have completely
rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the
commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly
advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow
thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the
problem. Does anyone know the
specifications of the main bow thruster motor
relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en
Roussillon



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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent, they are in the same place on 387, BeBe. 

CW Bill Rouse, Admiral (Hon) Texas Navy
Yacht BeBe
+1832-380-4970 Global VoiceMail

On Jul 1, 2016, at 15:42, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mine are on the port side under the berth attached to the aft side of the chain locker's watertight bulkhead.  There is a small panel that separates them from the air conditioner.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I looked and I think mine are at the same place...
I did not follow the wire (short on time because of work), but unless they are other solenoids, mine are there.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

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On Fri, 7/1/16, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 11:39 AM


 









Yes
Andrew, you have the bow-thruster located in a watertight
compartment, not allowing a watertight duct for the cables,
but I think on Kent's (and most probably on all the SMs
that don't have a watertight bow-thruster compartment)
the solenoids are below the berth.Kent
will tell us what he finds...
Olivier.


On Friday, July 1,
2016 6:09 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



 













Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster
compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side
wall.



Andrew
SM
472





Begin forwarded message:





From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST

To: "amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster
Motor Solenoid Location

Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>








In an
SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the
front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a
protection piece of plywood.



Olivier








On Friday, July
1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse'
yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:








 




Kent,



I think I know where it is, but I can't get there
right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the
location.



Bill
BeBe 387


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at
11:45 AM, Kent Robertson

karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



 




Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy







On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'

yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:




 



Andrew,



I know of one other owner who had the same problem with
their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship
the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some
unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000
and 4,000 Euros!



When you have a chance please share your information,
because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it
may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.



It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause
might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not
considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would
cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now
understand how it could. I
do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I
can't get to mine right now and will look later. I
suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will
search.



Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for
internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know
that most battery suppliers will provide this service.




Thanks,



Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at
8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb

andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



 





Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor
engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in
repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind
generators, etc) they have completely
rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the
commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly
advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow
thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the
problem. Does anyone know the
specifications of the main bow thruster motor
relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en
Roussillon



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