[Amel Yacht Owners] Head sail furling
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
I am guessing that it could be a lot of things, but, I will give you some guesses to eliminate because I have not experienced this. I imagine you have already eliminated these, but since you did not say, here you are:
I wish you well as you explore the reason. Bill BeBe 387
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Alexandre Uster von Baar
Could it be the rivet?
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Here is how mine look before i change them: http://nikimat.com/genoa_furler_rivet.html Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico --------------------------------------------
On Sun, 7/17/16, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Head sail furling To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Sunday, July 17, 2016, 8:07 AM Hey everyone- I have not look into this yet but last year I had the issue where the furling motor sheared from the plate that spins the sail out (while locking pin is engaged). Well, yesterday I had the same thing happen less than 1 year after it was "fixed". I actually furled into the wind under light air conditions. You know, no problem just used the cross method and rolled the sail manually but I am confused and frustrated as to why this is an issue. Can anyone chime in with suggestions or comments? 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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Bill, One more guess... Maybe the worm gear inside the furler mechanism is somehow binding. I would guess that if this happened the motor would shear. Possibly a bearing or bushing has caused the gears to get out of alignment and they occasionally bind. I think after you check the obvious, this is next on your list. Bill BeBe 387 Trinidad
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
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william_maffei@...
Okay, so I looked at it further and it looks like it is working. It is wobbly as all hell but the bolts have not sheared off. The furling motor is fine. The rivets do look a little loose but I am at a loss as to why it would just completely unfurl while the pin was engaged yesterday and now it works "okay". Some work definitely needs to be done but I am not sure. The head sail is tight but the foil wobbles when rolling in under power. Thoughts?
Bill Maffei SM #195 It's all Good
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Hi Bill. If you can furl manually with a line, the rivets are intact. If the pin is engaged, but the motor doesn't turn the foil, you must have a failure in the gear box. If it is "wobbly", that confirms that a gear or bearing is out of place. What did you ("they") do to repair it last year? Kent SM243 Kristy Curacao with a detached retina and emergent eye surgery a few days ago. Was lucky to be here, the only retinal surgeon within hundreds of miles is here. Won't know how much vision I'll have in R eye for at least a few months. Gives a person pause to see how vulnerable we are in remote places. On Jul 17, 2016, at 9:32 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Stephen Davis
Sorry to hear about the eye. Hope all turns out well. Steve Davis Aloha SM 72 Grenada
On Jul 17, 2016, at 10:58, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
“Foil wobbles while rolling in…” Is the tension on your headstay high enough? Furling while the headstay has a larger than normal sag to leeward will heavily load up the mechanism and could be contributing to issues.
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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Gearbox needs disassembly, inspection and probable overhaul. And Genoa halyard may not be tight enough and/or forestay may not be tight enough. Bill BeBe
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:42 PM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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william_maffei@...
That this makes perfect sense. I am going to disable the gearbox and rebuild. Rivets absolutely need replacement but I can confirm this is not the issue because as Kent pointed out I was easily able to furl the sail with line. Cheers to all my fellow Amel owners! As always this group has proved to be an outstanding resource.
Bill Maffei SM #195 It's all Good
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Kent,
Sorry to hear about the detached retina. Let you friends here know if there is something we can do to help. Brava is on the hard for hurricane season, so I am at loose ends in Massachusetts, and am available to assist you if needed. Derick
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Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
Bill based on your discretion the worm gear bearing/ bushing is worn allowing it to run free. Normally it's a self locking system. Regards Capt Richard Piller On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:08, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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