[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting
FYI. I inquired to Amel Marin about changing Lofrans oil. They recommended against it. They did recommend greasing cone but advised against oil change saying it wasn't necessary. I Got this advise from their head maintenance man in May this year.
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Ben and Gayle La Bella Vita SM #347 On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]
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Duane, I have helped other owners with this issue. Most have been exactly as you have described. My recommendation is that you can probably leave it as is, but be sure you grease it and use a snubber. I agree on not changing the oil. There is really no reason to change the oil because:
However, make sure that there is sufficient oil by using a small stiff wire through the fill hole to check the oil level. If you overfill it, you will likely get some minor seepage at the axle seals. I find it impossible to use the sight glass to determine the level, but use the wire to ensure that the level is at the sight glass. Bill BeBe 387
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Alexandre Uster von Baar
Ok then...
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One less project... Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/16/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:35 PM Duane, I have helped other owners with this issue. Most have been exactly as you have described. My recommendation is that you can probably leave it as is, but be sure you grease it and use a snubber. I agree on not changing the oil. There is really no reason to change the oil because:If there is any slivers of metal or any other heavy substances in the oil you probably will not retrieve them by siphoning, and these pieces will probably do no harm as they will sink to the bottom. There is no oil pump...just splash-oiling.The windlass is not an internal combustion engine that will change the oil by heat. However, make sure that there is sufficient oil by using a small stiff wire through the fill hole to check the oil level. If you overfill it, you will likely get some minor seepage at the axle seals. I find it impossible to use the sight glass to determine the level, but use the wire to ensure that the level is at the sight glass. BillBeBe 387 On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: FYI. I inquired to Amel Marin about changing Lofrans oil. They recommended against it. They did recommend greasing cone but advised against oil change saying it wasn't necessary. I Got this advise from their head maintenance man in May this year. Ben and GayleLa Bella Vita SM #347Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote: Alexandre, There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans. I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary. Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast. Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)?? 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Alexandre Uster von Baar
Just saw your message. I read you had to unbolt it, etc. I actually have the instruction.
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But even thought the owner manual says to change the oil, since Bill, etc. say it is not necessary to change the oil, then I will keep it as it is... Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/16/16, sailor63109@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:05 PM Alexandre, There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans. I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary. Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast. Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)?? 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I got the same advice from Lofrans a couple years ago. Kent SM243 Kristy
On Aug 16, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
FYI. I inquired to Amel Marin about changing Lofrans oil. They recommended against it. They did recommend greasing cone but advised against oil change saying it wasn't necessary. I Got this advise from their head maintenance man in May this year. Ben and Gayle La Bella Vita SM #347 On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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You should still remove the bolts and clean the salt from under the windlass. Kent
On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Just saw your message. I read you had to unbolt it, etc. I actually have the instruction.
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ok wil do !!!
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On Tue, 8/16/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 1:15 PM You should still remove the bolts and clean the salt from under the windlass.Kent Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Just saw your message. I read you had to unbolt it, etc. I actually have the instruction. But even thought the owner manual says to change the oil, since Bill, etc. say it is not necessary to change the oil, then I will keep it as it is... Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/16/16, sailor63109@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:05 PM Alexandre, There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans. I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary. Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast. Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)?? 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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Duane. Yes there is an embedded mild steel plate which lovingly will not let go of the stainless steel bolt. Highly likely that if you try to remove it the last one will wring off. Don't remove it unless you really need to. Draw the oil out with a pump and a small diameter tube. Sent from my Vodafone Smart
On Aug 17, 2016 5:05 AM, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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