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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting


Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

FYI.  I inquired to Amel Marin about changing Lofrans oil.  They recommended against it.  They did recommend greasing cone but advised against oil change saying it wasn't necessary.  I Got this advise from their head maintenance man in May this year.  


Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita 
SM #347


On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]

 

Alexandre,


There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast.

Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)??

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

I have helped other owners with this issue. Most have been exactly as you have described.

My recommendation is that you can probably leave it as is, but be sure you grease it and use a snubber.

I agree on not changing the oil. There is really no reason to change the oil because:
  • If there is any slivers of metal or any other heavy substances in the oil you probably will not retrieve them by siphoning, and these pieces will probably do no harm as they will sink to the bottom. There is no oil pump...just splash-oiling.
  • The windlass is not an internal combustion engine that will change the oil by heat.
However, make sure that there is sufficient oil by using a small stiff wire through the fill hole to check the oil level. If you overfill it, you will likely get some minor seepage at the axle seals. I find it impossible to use the sight glass to determine the level, but use the wire to ensure that the level is at the sight glass.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

FYI.  I inquired to Amel Marin about changing Lofrans oil.  They recommended against it.  They did recommend greasing cone but advised against oil change saying it wasn't necessary.  I Got this advise from their head maintenance man in May this year.  


Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita 
SM #347


On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Alexandre,


There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast.

Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)??

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477



Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Ok then...
One less project...

Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 8/16/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:35 PM


 









Duane,
I have helped other owners with this
issue. Most have been exactly as you have
described.
My
recommendation is that you can probably leave it as is, but
be sure you grease it and use a snubber.
I agree on not changing the oil.
There is really no reason to change the oil
because:If there is any slivers of metal
or any other heavy substances in the oil you probably will
not retrieve them by siphoning, and these pieces will
probably do no harm as they will sink to the bottom. There
is no oil pump...just splash-oiling.The windlass is
not an internal combustion engine that will change the oil
by heat.
However, make
sure that there is sufficient oil by using a small stiff
wire through the fill hole to check the oil level. If you
overfill it, you will likely get some minor seepage at the
axle seals. I find it impossible to use the sight glass to
determine the level, but use the wire to ensure that the
level is at the sight glass.

BillBeBe
387
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at
10:18 AM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 











FYI.  I inquired to Amel Marin about
changing Lofrans oil.  They recommended against it.
 They did recommend greasing cone but advised against
oil change saying it wasn't necessary.  I Got this
advise from their head maintenance man in May this year.
 


Ben and GayleLa Bella
Vita SM #347Sent from
Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On
Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:
 









Alexandre,
There was a discussion on oil pumps
in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small
diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.
I would definitely not unbolt that
beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it
may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt
corroded fast.
Does
anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out
(i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the
mounting bolts)??
DuaneWanderer,
SM#477










































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Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Just saw your message. I read you had to unbolt it, etc. I actually have the instruction.
But even thought the owner manual says to change the oil, since Bill, etc. say it is not necessary to change the oil, then I will keep it as it is...

Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 8/16/16, sailor63109@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:05 PM


 









Alexandre,
There was a discussion on oil pumps
in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small
diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.
I would definitely not unbolt that
beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it
may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt
corroded fast.
Does
anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out
(i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the
mounting bolts)??
DuaneWanderer,
SM#477









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karkauai
 

I got the same advice from Lofrans a couple years ago.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Aug 16, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

FYI.  I inquired to Amel Marin about changing Lofrans oil.  They recommended against it.  They did recommend greasing cone but advised against oil change saying it wasn't necessary.  I Got this advise from their head maintenance man in May this year.  


Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita 
SM #347


On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alexandre,


There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast.

Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)??

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


karkauai
 

You should still remove the bolts and clean the salt from under the windlass.
Kent


On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Just saw your message. I read you had to unbolt it, etc. I actually have the instruction.
But even thought the owner manual says to change the oil, since Bill, etc. say it is not necessary to change the oil, then I will keep it as it is...

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/16/16, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:05 PM


 









Alexandre,
There was a discussion on oil pumps
in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small
diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.
I would definitely not unbolt that
beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it
may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt
corroded fast.
Does
anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out
(i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the
mounting bolts)??
DuaneWanderer,
SM#477









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Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

ok wil do !!!

Alexandre


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On Tue, 8/16/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 1:15 PM


 









You should still remove the bolts and
clean the salt from under the windlass.Kent

Sent from my
iPhone
On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:01
PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Just saw your message. I read you had to unbolt
it, etc. I actually have the instruction.

But even thought the owner manual says to change the oil,
since Bill, etc. say it is not necessary to change the oil,
then I will keep it as it is...



Alexandre



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On Tue, 8/16/16, sailor63109@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:05 PM





 



















Alexandre,

There was a discussion on oil pumps

in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small

diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that

beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and
it

may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt

corroded fast.

Does

anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out

(i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the

mounting bolts)??

DuaneWanderer,

SM#477



















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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Duane. Yes there is an embedded mild steel plate which lovingly will not let go of the stainless steel bolt. Highly likely that if you try to remove it the last one will wring off. Don't remove it unless you really need to. Draw the oil out with a pump and a small diameter tube.
Regards
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On Aug 17, 2016 5:05 AM, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Alexandre,


There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast.

Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)??

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477