[Amel Yacht Owners] Which Autopilot drive Rotary or Linear?


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Eric. Sounds like a good option. When we set off from Florida in 2009 we had super sail makers build us a heavy weather 90% Yankee cut jib. It is surprisingly effective in moderate conditions. But it does mean sail changes at times. Makes your 135 look an option to be considered.
Regards
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean pearl

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On Aug 27, 2016 5:50 PM, "kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Danny,
I have a heavy weather sail that I bend on when I go offshore. it is 135% and made of 10.5 oz material. It will go to 50 knots and then it is Jordan drogue time.
Fair winds,
Eric
Sm376 Kimberlite

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From: "simms simms@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 3:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Which Autopilot drive Rotary or Linear?
To: Amel Owners

 

Hi Bill, that's the irony of storm sails. In building conditions we can be quite comfortable sailing with the big Genoa part furled, but those same conditions are beyond what we want to face on the fore deck handing that huge sail. A hard call. When having a new 150%

headsail made I told the sail maker not to weight the cloth for the moderate winds the full sail would be used in, but for the strong winds it would be used in partly furled. Their first try was way too light and I sent it back and they provided the right weight at their cost.
Cheers
Danny
Sm 299
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On Aug 27, 2016 1:54 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Paul,

We had a new ATN "Gale Sail" on board, but the conditions prohibited bending this sail on to the Genoa Furler. I sold the Gale Sail afterwards...it had never been used. We mostly used about 2.3 meters of the Genoa and about half of the Mizzen for most of the high winds. When winds subsided to about 35kts, we added about 50% the main and more of the Genoa. We preferred to keep the boat speed under 7kts.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:44 AM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Bill!

That trigger an other question,
What canvas did you use at that condition?
We made very good speed at 30 knots of wind with half the Genua pooled out, but I guess it difficult to have it further furled I got the impression that the top will "fall" out and flog a lot if further furled:
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259



kimberlite@...
 


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bill, that's the irony of storm sails. In building conditions we can be quite comfortable sailing with the big Genoa part furled, but those same conditions are beyond what we want to face on the fore deck handing that huge sail. A hard call. When having a new 150% headsail made I told the sail maker not to weight the cloth for the moderate winds the full sail would be used in, but for the strong winds it would be used in partly furled. Their first try was way too light and I sent it back and they provided the right weight at their cost.
Cheers
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean Pearl

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On Aug 27, 2016 1:54 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Paul,

We had a new ATN "Gale Sail" on board, but the conditions prohibited bending this sail on to the Genoa Furler. I sold the Gale Sail afterwards...it had never been used. We mostly used about 2.3 meters of the Genoa and about half of the Mizzen for most of the high winds. When winds subsided to about 35kts, we added about 50% the main and more of the Genoa. We preferred to keep the boat speed under 7kts.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:44 AM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Bill!

That trigger an other question,
What canvas did you use at that condition?
We made very good speed at 30 knots of wind with half the Genua pooled out, but I guess it difficult to have it further furled I got the impression that the top will "fall" out and flog a lot if further furled:
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259



Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

We had a new ATN "Gale Sail" on board, but the conditions prohibited bending this sail on to the Genoa Furler. I sold the Gale Sail afterwards...it had never been used. We mostly used about 2.3 meters of the Genoa and about half of the Mizzen for most of the high winds. When winds subsided to about 35kts, we added about 50% the main and more of the Genoa. We preferred to keep the boat speed under 7kts.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:44 AM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Bill!

That trigger an other question,
What canvas did you use at that condition?
We made very good speed at 30 knots of wind with half the Genua pooled out, but I guess it difficult to have it further furled I got the impression that the top will "fall" out and flog a lot if further furled:
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259



Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Bill!
That trigger an other question,
What canvas did you use at that condition?
We made very good speed at 30 knots of wind with half the Genua pooled out, but I guess it difficult to have it further furled I got the impression that the top will "fall" out and flog a lot if further furled:
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259


Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

When in the Indian Ocean Bay of Bengal we encountered a Cyclone with 50ish knots and about 7 meter waves. It's a long story, but we ran with this cyclone in an anti-clockwise direction for 5 days with the linear pilot. It operated fine.

I prefer the linear because the rotary is noisier and because the linear seems to be quicker.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On Aug 26, 2016 7:50 AM, "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Last trip we had was in 30-40 knots of tail wind and not to large following sea. The autopilot had to work a lot to keep the course, but it copped very well. My thought was, which system is more robust the rotary- or the linear drive? good to know when we in the future might encounter more severe weather

Before purchasing our Amel SM we inspected a few SM and one owner which I believe had great experience claimed that he use the rotary drive in tougher conditions, as he once broke the connection between the Linear drive and rudder "wheel/quadrant" He thought that was stronger.

Anyone has a opinion/knowledge about this?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259