On Aug 27, 2016, at 07:37, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks for the great information !!!  

Does any one know if this is the same issue on the ZF Transmission?  

Also does any one know a supplier to get a spare hose for the transmission: 
http://nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses.html
the purple one is for the transmission. 

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Ric

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On Fri, 8/26/16, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmission Coolers
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016, 9:09 PM


 









One of the things that Joel told me to
keep on my maintenance schedule was inspection of the Hurth
Transmission cooler for corrosion.  Many thanks to him for
mentioning it, it is something I would have missed.  Sure
enough, mine needed to be replaced.
It's very much a crappy
design:  A cast aluminum box made part of the engine
galvanic electrical circuit.  Not surprising that it has
issues. I have read rumors that there is a stainless steel
version also available, but that would have its own
problems.  Stainless has a much lower thermal conductivity
than aluminum, so it wouldn't cool as
efficiently. 
I installed a new aluminum
cooler, and modified it to accept a zinc anode.  You can
see photos and some more details on our blog here:  An
engine project.  


An
engine project. One
of the great things that came to us when we purchased this
boat was the experience of the yacht broker who arranged the
sale.  Joel has a vast store&nbs...  




View on fetchinketch.net 


Preview by Yahoo  

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KinneyHarmonie, SM
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On Aug 27, 2016, at 08:54, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello Bill,

That is what I was just writing to Eric.

I feel I have the same set-up as you.
Mine says: ZF Hurth HBW 250

If you can please have a look:
http://nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses_7.jpg

Should be between the white hose and the black hose.

How much was the new cooler?
Do you have the part number?

Thanks in advance.
Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sat, 8/27/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... <mailto:greatketch@...> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmission Coolers
To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, August 27, 2016, 7:45 AM












Alexandre,
ZF and Hurth transmissions are
identical, but I should be clear which one I have.

My engine is the Volvo TMD22, the
transmission is a Hurth 250, later in production known as a
ZF 25M. There is no external oil circulation on this
model. The standard installation is only air cooled from
the transmission oil through the case. The seawater cooler
is an afterthought, just bolted to the side of the case.
Heat from the transmission oil is conducted through the
transmission case, then through the wall of the cooler to
the seawater that flows through the cooler on its way to the
engine. By cooling the oil, the seawater cooler increases
the horsepower rating of the transmission.
If your transmission has an
external shell and tube heat exchanger, my modification
doesn’t apply.
I got my new cooler from Foley
Engines in Worcester, Massachusetts.
It sounds like
the one Eric is talking about is different than mine.


Bill KinneySM #160, HarmonieBlock Island, RI“Ships and men rot in
port."http://fetchinketch.net <http://fetchinketch.net/>






On Aug 27, 2016, at 07:37,
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... <mailto:uster@...>
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>>
wrote:
Thanks for the great information
!!!

Does any one know if this is the
same issue on the ZF Transmission?

Also does any one know a supplier
to get a spare hose for the transmission:
http://nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses.html
the purple one is
for the transmission.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San
Juan, Puerto Ric

--------------------------------------------
On Fri,
8/26/16, greatketch@... <mailto:greatketch@...> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Hurth Transmission Coolers
To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, August
26, 2016, 9:09 PM












One of the things that Joel told
me to
keep on my
maintenance schedule was inspection of the Hurth
Transmission cooler
for corrosion. Many thanks to him for
mentioning it, it is something I
would have missed. Sure
enough, mine needed to be
replaced.
It's very much a crappy
design: A cast
aluminum box made part of the engine
galvanic electrical circuit.
Not surprising that it has
issues. I have read rumors that
there is a stainless steel
version also available, but that
would have its own
problems. Stainless has a much
lower thermal conductivity
than aluminum, so it wouldn't
cool as
efficiently.
I installed a new aluminum
cooler, and modified
it to accept a zinc anode. You can
see photos and some more details
on our blog here: An
engine project.


An
engine project. One
of the great things
that came to us when we purchased this
boat was the experience of the
yacht broker who arranged the
sale. Joel has a vast
store&nbs...




View on fetchinketch.net <http://fetchinketch.net/>


Preview by Yahoo

Bill
KinneyHarmonie, SM
#160Block Island,
RI"Men and
ships rot in
port."http://fetchinketch.net <http://fetchinketch.net/>









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On Aug 27, 2016, at 09:11, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks so much Bill,

Will order Monday.
Was it easy to remove?

By any chance, did you find a source for the hose? especially the hose with the purple arrow…

Much appreciate!

Alexandre

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On Sat, 8/27/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... <mailto:greatketch@...> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmission Coolers
To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, August 27, 2016, 8:03 AM












Alexandre,
That is exactly my setup. The
cooler is the part where the white hose comes in and the
black hose leaves.
The complete cooler with gasket
and bolts was US$300 from Foley Engines, http://www.foleyengines.com <http://www.foleyengines.com/>
The same cooler is used on all
the Hurth transmissions, it is described on my invoice as a
“Hurth Cooler Kit” with no part number listed.


Bill KinneySM #160, HarmonieBlock Island, RI“Ships and men rot in
port."http://fetchinketch.net <http://fetchinketch.net/>






On Aug 27, 2016, at 08:54,
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... <mailto:uster@...>
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>>
wrote:
Hello Bill,

That is what I was just writing
to Eric.

I feel I have the same set-up as
you.
Mine says: ZF Hurth
HBW 250

If you can please
have a look:
http://nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses_7.jpg

Should be between the white hose
and the black hose.

How much was the new cooler?
Do you have the part
number?

Thanks in advance.
Sincerely,
Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 8/27/16,
Bill Kinney greatketch@... <mailto:greatketch@...> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmission Coolers
To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday,
August 27, 2016, 7:45 AM












Alexandre,
ZF and Hurth transmissions are
identical, but I
should be clear which one I have.

My engine is the Volvo TMD22,
the
transmission
is a Hurth 250, later in production known as a
ZF 25M. There is
no external oil circulation on this
model. The standard
installation is only air cooled from
the transmission oil through the
case. The seawater cooler
is an afterthought, just bolted
to the side of the case.
Heat from the transmission oil is
conducted through the
transmission case, then through
the wall of the cooler to
the seawater that flows through
the cooler on its way to the
engine. By cooling the oil, the
seawater cooler increases
the horsepower rating of the
transmission.
If
your transmission has an
external shell and tube heat
exchanger, my modification
doesn’t apply.
I got my new cooler
from Foley
Engines in
Worcester, Massachusetts.
It sounds like
the one Eric is talking about is
different than mine.


Bill KinneySM
#160, HarmonieBlock Island, RI“Ships and men rot in
port."http://fetchinketch.net <http://fetchinketch.net/>






On Aug 27, 2016, at 07:37,
Alexandre Uster von
Baar uster@... <mailto:uster@...>
[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>>
wrote:
Thanks for the great
information
!!!

Does any one know if this is
the
same issue on
the ZF Transmission?

Also does any one know a
supplier
to get a
spare hose for the transmission:
http://nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses.html
the purple one is
for the
transmission.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de
San
Juan, Puerto
Ric

--------------------------------------------
On Fri,
8/26/16, greatketch@... <mailto:greatketch@...> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Hurth
Transmission Coolers
To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday,
August
26, 2016,
9:09 PM












One of the things that Joel
told
me to
keep on my
maintenance schedule
was inspection of the Hurth
Transmission cooler
for corrosion.
Many thanks to him for
mentioning it, it is something
I
would have
missed. Sure
enough, mine needed to be
replaced.
It's very much a
crappy
design:
A cast
aluminum
box made part of the engine
galvanic electrical circuit.
Not surprising
that it has
issues. I have read rumors
that
there is a
stainless steel
version also available, but
that
would have
its own
problems.
Stainless has a much
lower thermal conductivity
than aluminum, so it
wouldn't
cool
as
efficiently.
I installed a new aluminum
cooler, and
modified
it to
accept a zinc anode. You can
see photos and some more
details
on our
blog here: An
engine project.


An
engine project. One
of the great
things
that came
to us when we purchased this
boat was the experience of the
yacht broker who
arranged the
sale. Joel has a vast
store&nbs...




View on fetchinketch.net <http://fetchinketch.net/>


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KinneyHarmonie, SM
#160Block Island,
RI"Men and
ships rot in
port."http://fetchinketch.net <http://fetchinketch.net/>









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