[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan
James Alton
Rick,
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One example of a modification to an Amel that concerned me involved drilling lots of holes in the watertight bulkheads to run new wiring. In this case, the boat had been converted from the original 220V to US 110 volt. The Amels seem to be well thought out and any modifications are best carefully considered I think. James Alton SV Sueno, Maramu #220 Arbatax, Italy
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Alexandre Uster von Baar
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Here are the various owner manuals. Depending of the SM or SM2K model you have, you will see slight difference or evolutions on the battery chargers or air intake for the Espar heater, etc. http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_manual.pdf http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Users_Guide_CP.pdf http://nikimat.com/Guide_utilisateur_Pack_Confort.pdf http://nikimat.com/Manuel_du_proprietaire_Pack_Confort.pdf Also good to know: http://nikimat.com/amel_Super_Maramu_2000_Polar_Chart.pdf http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part1.pdf http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part2.pdf Here are as well some other links for maintenance and repairs: Bow Thruster Overhaul with you will need to do every 2 years: http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html Recently I did the Windlass regular maintenance and the complete overhaul http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass_overhaul.html Change of the Onan Exhaust Elbow: http://nikimat.com/onan_exhaust_elbow_replacement.html Onan water pump cleaning: http://nikimat.com/onan_water_pump_cleaning.html Main sail car repair: http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car.html http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car_rebuild.html Companion way lock: http://nikimat.com/companion_way_broken_lock.html Removing the oven: http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_removal.html Accessing the dishwasher: http://nikimat.com/dishwasher_access.html Cleaning the oven: http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_cleaning.html I also have made some illustrations on installing a Galvanic Isolator and AC Multimeters http://nikimat.com/galvanic_isolator.html My diesel class was from a now retired instructor, it is about the same on all diesel engines. The main issue to to make sure there is no air in the fuel line, how to bleed, etc. I am not sure you need to learn more than that. The way I do it: if this is something that needs to be done every 10 years (like rebuilding the propeller), I rather hire someone that does it on a regular basis… If this is something that needs to be done on a regular basis (every 2 years) then I will learn. Totally agree with living onboard for at least 1 year before to make any change, this is the advice I was given. Here is the link for the survey: http://nikimat.com/Expertise_Super_Maramu_2000_BALAO_septembre.pdf It is in French. My belief, or at least hope, is that when all the maintenance is up to date it is easier to do it regularly. I am probably an exception on the group as I have to work (from the boat), so when I arrived somewhere I have to get connected to the internet and work. So because of that, instead to wait for parts to break I change or maintain them when I have the chance, as never they break at a good time. I was told: “Schedule your maintenance before your maintenance schedule you”. My trip has only be the Caribbean so far, I can’t imagine for Bill and Judy the additional shipping cost to Asia, etc… Diesel engine are very strong and durable, change your oil, filter (oil is VERY cheap compare to an overhaul), etc. Take care of your equipment and your equipment will take care of you. Finally, yes this forum is amazing: Olivier, Gary, Bill, etc. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 11/12/16, devaxmangor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Saturday, November 12, 2016, 1:05 PM Thank you Alexandre, I definitely plan on taking all the ASA courses I can. As I think I mentioned in another post, I am obsessive/compulsive when it comes to learning, so I enjoy the process. Can you point me to a place to download the service manuals? I have read somewhere that there are some in this group? If not I will do a search, but just in case you had it handy somewhere it would be greatly appreciated. RE: Basic Diesel. Definitely want to do this. However, I've also read that there are more in-depth classes specific to the engine manufacturer. I have heard that Yanmar does these sort of classes (haven't really researched this yet but came across it - haven't heard of Volvo doing it but I would be surprised if they don't). I would assumed then that these courses would be considerably more intensive than the Basic Diesel? I can see taking one of these as a top-list item in my book. Overkill? I've constantly heard the "live on the boat for one year before you decided to make any modifications/fixes/upgrades" and it seems quite logical. Something you thought you'd want may turn out to be a non-factor. RE: sharing your survey. If it has anything that would help me understand some of the typical wear factors (and maybe not so typical) on the Amel for future reference when I am at that stage, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for the 20% figure. I had estimated 10% per year, but I can see how the first couple of years there maybe additional modifications/upgrades to get it to what would be right for us (I don't use the word perfect because I know that is a trap to get stuck never finishing - been there done that). Glad to know that the 15-20 hours is accurate on weekly maintenance. Heard that number about other boats and knowing from an experienced Amel owner gives that figure more weight. RE: parts. Thankfully, reading through SV BeBe's blog I can clearly see the costs and time associated with trying to obtain parts at foreign ports. The plans would be to stock up on just about as much spare parts/units that I can carry, and it appears that the Amel's have plenty of storage. Thank you for sharing your spare parts list. Engine hours is amazing. I though that an engine would get long in the tooth at around 3,000 hours and would need to be changed. I really need to learn more about diesel engines! Thank you for tightening up my budgets. Starting to work on my spreadsheets and this will help a lot. Can't tell you how glad I am that I found this forum and posters like yourself and the rest. A great support group is also something that will definitely influence my decision on purchasing an Amel. Good luck to your continued endeavors. Cheers, Rick Gutierrez |
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Alexandre Uster von Baar
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The pictures you see are actually when I purchased the vessel. As you can see it was (still is) in excellent condition! The red/green came with the boat, it just show when the wheel is centered. Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 11/12/16, devaxmangor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Saturday, November 12, 2016, 3:18 PM Alexandre, Just looked at your web site in more detail. You have done an incredible job on your boat. Looks brand new! Love the color in the interior. I was thinking something bright like burnt orange but the yellow seems to work real nice and bring the color out of the wood. I also like SV Bebe's new interior. That white looks real clean. Also, silly question. Noticed the red/green tape(?) on the wheel. I haven't seen that but I'm assuming that is so that you can have tactile as well as visual cue where the centerline is under any conditions? Just curious. I hadn't seen that but makes perfect sense. I guess I need to pay more attention. Also, not sure how Yahoo groups works, but just in case it doesn't make it easy, here is my email address: devax@.... 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James Alton
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You did a truly excellent job of documenting the bow thruster service. May I ask how often you replace your bearings? Best, James Alton SV Sueno, Maramu #220 Arbatax, Italy
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Alexandre Uster von Baar
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With time I will try to post more illustration… Personally I change the bearing every time I service the bow thruster. The way I look at it, the cost of the bearing is very small compare to all the work/time involved… Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11/13/16, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Sunday, November 13, 2016, 7:51 AM Alexandre, You did a truly excellent job of documenting the bow thruster service. May I ask how often you replace your bearings? Best, James AltonSV Sueno, Maramu #220Arbatax, ItalyOn Nov 13, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Good morning Rick, Here are the various owner manuals. Depending of the SM or SM2K model you have, you will see slight difference or evolutions on the battery chargers or air intake for the Espar heater, etc. http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_manual.pdf http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Users_Guide_CP.pdf http://nikimat.com/Guide_utilisateur_Pack_Confort.pdf http://nikimat.com/Manuel_du_proprietaire_Pack_Confort.pdf Also good to know: http://nikimat.com/amel_Super_Maramu_2000_Polar_Chart.pdf http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part1.pdf http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part2.pdf Here are as well some other links for maintenance and repairs: Bow Thruster Overhaul with you will need to do every 2 years: http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html Recently I did the Windlass regular maintenance and the complete overhaul http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass_overhaul.html Change of the Onan Exhaust Elbow: http://nikimat.com/onan_exhaust_elbow_replacement.html Onan water pump cleaning: http://nikimat.com/onan_water_pump_cleaning.html Main sail car repair: http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car.html http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car_rebuild.html Companion way lock: http://nikimat.com/companion_way_broken_lock.html Removing the oven: http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_removal.html Accessing the dishwasher: http://nikimat.com/dishwasher_access.html Cleaning the oven: http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_cleaning.html I also have made some illustrations on installing a Galvanic Isolator and AC Multimeters http://nikimat.com/galvanic_isolator.html My diesel class was from a now retired instructor, it is about the same on all diesel engines. The main issue to to make sure there is no air in the fuel line, how to bleed, etc. I am not sure you need to learn more than that. The way I do it: if this is something that needs to be done every 10 years (like rebuilding the propeller), I rather hire someone that does it on a regular basis… If this is something that needs to be done on a regular basis (every 2 years) then I will learn. Totally agree with living onboard for at least 1 year before to make any change, this is the advice I was given. Here is the link for the survey: http://nikimat.com/Expertise_Super_Maramu_2000_BALAO_septembre.pdf It is in French. My belief, or at least hope, is that when all the maintenance is up to date it is easier to do it regularly. I am probably an exception on the group as I have to work (from the boat), so when I arrived somewhere I have to get connected to the internet and work. So because of that, instead to wait for parts to break I change or maintain them when I have the chance, as never they break at a good time. I was told: “Schedule your maintenance before your maintenance schedule you”. My trip has only be the Caribbean so far, I can’t imagine for Bill and Judy the additional shipping cost to Asia, etc… Diesel engine are very strong and durable, change your oil, filter (oil is VERY cheap compare to an overhaul), etc. Take care of your equipment and your equipment will take care of you. Finally, yes this forum is amazing: Olivier, Gary, Bill, etc. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 11/12/16, devaxmangor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Saturday, November 12, 2016, 1:05 PM Thank you Alexandre, I definitely plan on taking all the ASA courses I can. As I think I mentioned in another post, I am obsessive/compulsive when it comes to learning, so I enjoy the process. Can you point me to a place to download the service manuals? I have read somewhere that there are some in this group? If not I will do a search, but just in case you had it handy somewhere it would be greatly appreciated. RE: Basic Diesel. Definitely want to do this. However, I've also read that there are more in-depth classes specific to the engine manufacturer. I have heard that Yanmar does these sort of classes (haven't really researched this yet but came across it - haven't heard of Volvo doing it but I would be surprised if they don't). I would assumed then that these courses would be considerably more intensive than the Basic Diesel? I can see taking one of these as a top-list item in my book. Overkill? I've constantly heard the "live on the boat for one year before you decided to make any modifications/fixes/upgrades" and it seems quite logical. Something you thought you'd want may turn out to be a non-factor. RE: sharing your survey. If it has anything that would help me understand some of the typical wear factors (and maybe not so typical) on the Amel for future reference when I am at that stage, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for the 20% figure. I had estimated 10% per year, but I can see how the first couple of years there maybe additional modifications/upgrades to get it to what would be right for us (I don't use the word perfect because I know that is a trap to get stuck never finishing - been there done that). Glad to know that the 15-20 hours is accurate on weekly maintenance. Heard that number about other boats and knowing from an experienced Amel owner gives that figure more weight. RE: parts. Thankfully, reading through SV BeBe's blog I can clearly see the costs and time associated with trying to obtain parts at foreign ports. The plans would be to stock up on just about as much spare parts/units that I can carry, and it appears that the Amel's have plenty of storage. Thank you for sharing your spare parts list. Engine hours is amazing. I though that an engine would get long in the tooth at around 3,000 hours and would need to be changed. I really need to learn more about diesel engines! Thank you for tightening up my budgets. Starting to work on my spreadsheets and this will help a lot. Can't tell you how glad I am that I found this forum and posters like yourself and the rest. A great support group is also something that will definitely influence my decision on purchasing an Amel. Good luck to your continued endeavors. 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Hello Alex,
This is Ken on Aquarius. I am so sorry to hear about Nikimat, and hope your issues with the insurance company will be resolved in the near future. I had heard that you have many spare parts, and trying to sell them. Do you still have any Main Outhaul Motors/Gears? If so, please let me know. All the best, Ken Powers Aquarius Currently in Panama Shelter Bay Marina |
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