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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat tripping


Peter Buckley
 

Hi All and especially Alexandre,

Thank you for your threads and images it has been an amazing help for me during the maintenance program on my Mango.
It is almost finished and I set sail on the 14th December for warmer waters to the north of Australia.

I have an issue with my Frigoboat refrigerator that seems strange. It will work fine off the generator and shore power but trips the breaker on 12 volts.
If anyone has had this problem and has a solution it would be appreciated.

Thank you all again 

Kindest Regards

Peter
Gradiva Mango #70
Raymond Island 
Australia



-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 11:47:21 +0000 (UTC)
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan

 

Good morning James,

With time I will try to post more illustration…

Personally I change the bearing every time I service the bow thruster.
The way I look at it, the cost of the bearing is very small compare to all the work/time involved…

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 11/13/16, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, November 13, 2016, 7:51 AM


 









Alexandre,
   You did a truly excellent
job of documenting the bow thruster service.  May I ask how
often you replace your bearings?
Best,
James AltonSV Sueno,  Maramu #220Arbatax,  ItalyOn Nov 13, 2016, at 9:03 AM,
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
Good morning Rick, 

Here are the various owner
manuals.  
Depending of the SM
or SM2K model you have, you will see slight difference or
evolutions on the battery chargers or air intake for the
Espar heater, etc. 
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_manual.pdf
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Users_Guide_CP.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Guide_utilisateur_Pack_Confort.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Manuel_du_proprietaire_Pack_Confort.pdf

Also good to know:  
http://nikimat.com/amel_Super_Maramu_2000_Polar_Chart.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part1.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part2.pdf

Here are as well some other links
for maintenance and repairs:
Bow Thruster Overhaul with you
will need to do every 2 years:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

Recently I did the Windlass
regular maintenance and the complete overhaul
http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html
http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass_overhaul.html

Change of the Onan Exhaust
Elbow:
http://nikimat.com/onan_exhaust_elbow_replacement.html
Onan water pump
cleaning:
http://nikimat.com/onan_water_pump_cleaning.html

Main sail car repair: 
http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car.html
http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car_rebuild.html

Companion way lock: 
http://nikimat.com/companion_way_broken_lock.html

Removing the oven:
http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_removal.html

Accessing the dishwasher:
http://nikimat.com/dishwasher_access.html

Cleaning the oven:
http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_cleaning.html

I also have made some
illustrations on installing a Galvanic Isolator and AC
Multimeters
http://nikimat.com/galvanic_isolator.html

My diesel class was from a now
retired instructor, it is about the same on all diesel
engines.  
The main issue to to
make sure there is no air in the fuel line, how to bleed,
etc. I am not sure you need to learn more than that.  

The way I do it: if this is
something that needs to be done every 10 years (like
rebuilding the propeller), I rather hire someone that does
it on a regular basis…  
If this is something
that needs to be done on a regular basis (every 2 years)
then I will learn. 

Totally agree with living onboard
for at least 1 year before to make any change, this is the
advice I was given.  

Here is the link for the
survey:  
http://nikimat.com/Expertise_Super_Maramu_2000_BALAO_septembre.pdf
It is in
French.  

My belief, or at least hope, is
that when all the maintenance is up to date it is easier to
do it regularly.  
I am probably an
exception on the group as I have to work (from the boat), so
when I arrived somewhere I have to get connected to the
internet and work.  
So because of that,
instead to wait for parts to break I change or maintain them
when I have the chance, as never they break at a good
time.  
I was told:
“Schedule your maintenance before your maintenance
schedule you”.  

My trip has only be the Caribbean
so far, I can’t imagine for Bill and Judy the additional
shipping cost to Asia, etc…  

Diesel engine are very strong and
durable, change your oil, filter (oil is VERY cheap compare
to an overhaul), etc. 
Take care of your
equipment and your equipment will take care of you. 

Finally, yes this forum is
amazing: Olivier, Gary, Bill, etc. 

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina,
Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Sat,
11/12/16, devaxmangor@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday,
November 12, 2016, 1:05 PM


 









Thank you Alexandre,
I definitely plan on
taking all the
ASA courses I can. As I think I
mentioned in another post, I
am obsessive/compulsive when it
comes to learning, so I
enjoy the process. 
Can you point me to
a place to
download the service manuals? I
have read somewhere that
there are some in this group? If
not I will do a search, but
just in case you had it handy
somewhere it would be greatly
appreciated.
RE: Basic
Diesel. Definitely want to do
this. However, I've also
read that there are more in-depth
classes specific to the
engine manufacturer. I have heard
that Yanmar does these
sort of classes (haven't
really researched this yet but
came across it - haven't
heard of Volvo doing it but I
would be surprised if they
don't). I would assumed then
that these courses would be
considerably more intensive than
the Basic Diesel? I can see
taking one of these as a
top-list item in my book.
Overkill?
I've constantly heard the
"live on the
boat for one year before you decided to
make any
modifications/fixes/upgrades" and it seems
quite logical.
Something you thought you'd want may turn
out to be a
non-factor.
RE:
sharing your survey. If it has
anything that would help me
understand some of the typical
wear factors (and maybe not so
typical) on the Amel for
future reference when I am at
that stage, I would greatly
appreciate it. 
Thank
you for the 20% figure. I had
estimated 10% per year, but I
can see how the first couple of
years there maybe additional
modifications/upgrades to get it
to what would be right for
us (I don't use the word
perfect because I know that is
a trap to get stuck never
finishing - been there done
that). 
Glad to know
that the 15-20 hours is accurate
on weekly maintenance.
Heard that number about other
boats and knowing from an
experienced Amel owner gives that
figure more
weight.
RE: parts.
Thankfully, reading through SV
BeBe's blog I can clearly
see the costs and time associated
with trying to obtain
parts at foreign ports. The plans
would be to stock up on
just about as much spare
parts/units that I can carry, and
it appears that the Amel's
have plenty of storage. Thank
you for sharing your spare parts
list. 
Engine
hours is amazing. I though
that an engine would get long in
the tooth at around 3,000
hours and would need to be
changed. I really need to learn
more about diesel engines!
Thank you for
tightening up my
budgets. Starting to work on my
spreadsheets and this will
help a lot.
Can't
tell you how glad I am that I
found this forum and posters
like yourself and the rest. A
great support group is also
something that will definitely
influence my decision on
purchasing an Amel.
Good luck to your
continued
endeavors. 
Cheers,
Rick Gutierrez
















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James Alton
 

Alexandre,

I can understand your logic with regards to replacing the bearings each time the thruster is serviced. Thanks for the response and again for the excellently detailed service instructions.

James

On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Peter Buckley carhartt@bigpond.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi All and especially Alexandre,

Thank you for your threads and images it has been an amazing help for me during the maintenance program on my Mango.
It is almost finished and I set sail on the 14th December for warmer waters to the north of Australia.

I have an issue with my Frigoboat refrigerator that seems strange. It will work fine off the generator and shore power but trips the breaker on 12 volts.
If anyone has had this problem and has a solution it would be appreciated.

Thank you all again

Kindest Regards

Peter
Gradiva Mango #70
Raymond Island
Australia



--
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@bigpond.com <mailto:carhartt@bigpond.com>


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com> [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 11:47:21 +0000 (UTC)
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan


Good morning James,

With time I will try to post more illustration…

Personally I change the bearing every time I service the bow thruster.
The way I look at it, the cost of the bearing is very small compare to all the work/time involved…

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 11/13/16, James Alton lokiyawl2@aol.com <mailto:lokiyawl2@aol.com> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 13, 2016, 7:51 AM












Alexandre,
You did a truly excellent
job of documenting the bow thruster service. May I ask how
often you replace your bearings?
Best,
James AltonSV Sueno, Maramu #220Arbatax, ItalyOn Nov 13, 2016, at 9:03 AM,
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com>
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:
Good morning Rick,

Here are the various owner
manuals.
Depending of the SM
or SM2K model you have, you will see slight difference or
evolutions on the battery chargers or air intake for the
Espar heater, etc.
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_manual.pdf
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Users_Guide_CP.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Guide_utilisateur_Pack_Confort.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Manuel_du_proprietaire_Pack_Confort.pdf

Also good to know:
http://nikimat.com/amel_Super_Maramu_2000_Polar_Chart.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part1.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part2.pdf

Here are as well some other links
for maintenance and repairs:
Bow Thruster Overhaul with you
will need to do every 2 years:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

Recently I did the Windlass
regular maintenance and the complete overhaul
http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html
http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass_overhaul.html

Change of the Onan Exhaust
Elbow:
http://nikimat.com/onan_exhaust_elbow_replacement.html
Onan water pump
cleaning:
http://nikimat.com/onan_water_pump_cleaning.html

Main sail car repair:
http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car.html
http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car_rebuild.html

Companion way lock:
http://nikimat.com/companion_way_broken_lock.html

Removing the oven:
http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_removal.html

Accessing the dishwasher:
http://nikimat.com/dishwasher_access.html

Cleaning the oven:
http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_cleaning.html

I also have made some
illustrations on installing a Galvanic Isolator and AC
Multimeters
http://nikimat.com/galvanic_isolator.html

My diesel class was from a now
retired instructor, it is about the same on all diesel
engines.
The main issue to to
make sure there is no air in the fuel line, how to bleed,
etc. I am not sure you need to learn more than that.

The way I do it: if this is
something that needs to be done every 10 years (like
rebuilding the propeller), I rather hire someone that does
it on a regular basis…
If this is something
that needs to be done on a regular basis (every 2 years)
then I will learn.

Totally agree with living onboard
for at least 1 year before to make any change, this is the
advice I was given.

Here is the link for the
survey:
http://nikimat.com/Expertise_Super_Maramu_2000_BALAO_septembre.pdf
It is in
French.

My belief, or at least hope, is
that when all the maintenance is up to date it is easier to
do it regularly.
I am probably an
exception on the group as I have to work (from the boat), so
when I arrived somewhere I have to get connected to the
internet and work.
So because of that,
instead to wait for parts to break I change or maintain them
when I have the chance, as never they break at a good
time.
I was told:
“Schedule your maintenance before your maintenance
schedule you”.

My trip has only be the Caribbean
so far, I can’t imagine for Bill and Judy the additional
shipping cost to Asia, etc…

Diesel engine are very strong and
durable, change your oil, filter (oil is VERY cheap compare
to an overhaul), etc.
Take care of your
equipment and your equipment will take care of you.

Finally, yes this forum is
amazing: Olivier, Gary, Bill, etc.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina,
Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Sat,
11/12/16, devaxmangor@yahoo.com <mailto:devaxmangor@yahoo.com> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday,
November 12, 2016, 1:05 PM












Thank you Alexandre,
I definitely plan on
taking all the
ASA courses I can. As I think I
mentioned in another post, I
am obsessive/compulsive when it
comes to learning, so I
enjoy the process.
Can you point me to
a place to
download the service manuals? I
have read somewhere that
there are some in this group? If
not I will do a search, but
just in case you had it handy
somewhere it would be greatly
appreciated.
RE: Basic
Diesel. Definitely want to do
this. However, I've also
read that there are more in-depth
classes specific to the
engine manufacturer. I have heard
that Yanmar does these
sort of classes (haven't
really researched this yet but
came across it - haven't
heard of Volvo doing it but I
would be surprised if they
don't). I would assumed then
that these courses would be
considerably more intensive than
the Basic Diesel? I can see
taking one of these as a
top-list item in my book.
Overkill?
I've constantly heard the
"live on the
boat for one year before you decided to
make any
modifications/fixes/upgrades" and it seems
quite logical.
Something you thought you'd want may turn
out to be a
non-factor.
RE:
sharing your survey. If it has
anything that would help me
understand some of the typical
wear factors (and maybe not so
typical) on the Amel for
future reference when I am at
that stage, I would greatly
appreciate it.
Thank
you for the 20% figure. I had
estimated 10% per year, but I
can see how the first couple of
years there maybe additional
modifications/upgrades to get it
to what would be right for
us (I don't use the word
perfect because I know that is
a trap to get stuck never
finishing - been there done
that).
Glad to know
that the 15-20 hours is accurate
on weekly maintenance.
Heard that number about other
boats and knowing from an
experienced Amel owner gives that
figure more
weight.
RE: parts.
Thankfully, reading through SV
BeBe's blog I can clearly
see the costs and time associated
with trying to obtain
parts at foreign ports. The plans
would be to stock up on
just about as much spare
parts/units that I can carry, and
it appears that the Amel's
have plenty of storage. Thank
you for sharing your spare parts
list.
Engine
hours is amazing. I though
that an engine would get long in
the tooth at around 3,000
hours and would need to be
changed. I really need to learn
more about diesel engines!
Thank you for
tightening up my
budgets. Starting to work on my
spreadsheets and this will
help a lot.
Can't
tell you how glad I am that I
found this forum and posters
like yourself and the rest. A
great support group is also
something that will definitely
influence my decision on
purchasing an Amel.
Good luck to your
continued
endeavors.
Cheers,
Rick Gutierrez
















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