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Mark Erdos
Ben
Are you
painting the deck stripes or boot stripes?
With best
regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
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From: amelyachtowners@...
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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thickening polyurethane paint
It's time to repaint my stripes. I'm using an available interlux
poly-urethane paint. My problem is paint is too thin and dripping from roller
on striper. Can anyone recommend a thickening agent? Current
mixture is 50/50 Interlux Brightside single part enamel and Interlux flattening
agent. All suggestions welcome.
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Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
Hi Mark I'm painting deck stripes using Beugler tool
On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 3:41 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Ben
Are you
painting the deck stripes or boot stripes?
With best
regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thickening polyurethane paint
It's time to repaint my stripes. I'm using an available interlux
poly-urethane paint. My problem is paint is too thin and dripping from roller
on striper. Can anyone recommend a thickening agent? Current
mixture is 50/50 Interlux Brightside single part enamel and Interlux flattening
agent. All suggestions welcome.
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Mark Erdos
Hi Ben,
Do you think an
accelerator would help? https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=98105&familyName=Quantum+99+Urethane+Accelerator
I am not sure
you need to thicken the paint. It sounds like you need less of it on the application
wheel. Are you using the tool so the barrel stays below the wheel? The tool should
not be used upright. Ideally when using a pinstripe tool you want to illuminate
as much gravity as you can. This will put less paint on the wheel. Also, if you
put the non-paint end of the tool in the groove on the deck, it will help keep
your line straight as you pull/push the tool to apply paint. Try this technique
on a some paper first, it may be all you need.
With best
regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thickening polyurethane paint
Hi Mark
I'm painting deck stripes using Beugler tool
Ben
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 3:41 PM, 'Mark Erdos'
mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
Ben
Are
you painting the deck stripes or boot stripes?
With
best regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing
Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thickening polyurethane paint
It's time to repaint my stripes. I'm using an available interlux
poly-urethane paint. My problem is paint is too thin and dripping from roller
on striper. Can anyone recommend a thickening agent? Current
mixture is 50/50 Interlux Brightside single part enamel and Interlux flattening
agent. All suggestions welcome.
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Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
John I'm using exactly the paint and tool but with flattener. My need to forgo the flattener. Ben Driver La Bella Vita SM #347 6S
On Jul 13, 2017, at 4:09 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi Ben,
Do you think an
accelerator would help? https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=98105&familyName=Quantum+99+Urethane+Accelerator
I am not sure
you need to thicken the paint. It sounds like you need less of it on the application
wheel. Are you using the tool so the barrel stays below the wheel? The tool should
not be used upright. Ideally when using a pinstripe tool you want to illuminate
as much gravity as you can. This will put less paint on the wheel. Also, if you
put the non-paint end of the tool in the groove on the deck, it will help keep
your line straight as you pull/push the tool to apply paint. Try this technique
on a some paper first, it may be all you need.
With best
regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
Hi Mark
I'm painting deck stripes using Beugler tool
Ben
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 3:41 PM, 'Mark Erdos'
mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
Ben
Are
you painting the deck stripes or boot stripes?
With
best regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing
Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
It's time to repaint my stripes. I'm using an available interlux
poly-urethane paint. My problem is paint is too thin and dripping from roller
on striper. Can anyone recommend a thickening agent? Current
mixture is 50/50 Interlux Brightside single part enamel and Interlux flattening
agent. All suggestions welcome.
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Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
Mark Not sure about accelerator but maybe a possibility. I am using tool improperly per your comments. I'm holding it closer to vertical than horizontal. This is causing paint to drip out. I'll try technique you suggest. Also per
Dave I may leave can open a while covered with mesh to allow some evaporation which will thicken paint. Ben Ben and Gayle La Bella Vita SM #347 6S
On Jul 13, 2017, at 4:09 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi Ben,
Do you think an
accelerator would help? https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=98105&familyName=Quantum+99+Urethane+Accelerator
I am not sure
you need to thicken the paint. It sounds like you need less of it on the application
wheel. Are you using the tool so the barrel stays below the wheel? The tool should
not be used upright. Ideally when using a pinstripe tool you want to illuminate
as much gravity as you can. This will put less paint on the wheel. Also, if you
put the non-paint end of the tool in the groove on the deck, it will help keep
your line straight as you pull/push the tool to apply paint. Try this technique
on a some paper first, it may be all you need.
With best
regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
Hi Mark
I'm painting deck stripes using Beugler tool
Ben
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 3:41 PM, 'Mark Erdos'
mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
Ben
Are
you painting the deck stripes or boot stripes?
With
best regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing
Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
It's time to repaint my stripes. I'm using an available interlux
poly-urethane paint. My problem is paint is too thin and dripping from roller
on striper. Can anyone recommend a thickening agent? Current
mixture is 50/50 Interlux Brightside single part enamel and Interlux flattening
agent. All suggestions welcome.
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Mark Erdos
Ben,
I think you are
onto something that will work.
What color are
you using to paint the deck striping?
With best
regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thickening polyurethane paint
Not sure about accelerator but maybe a possibility. I
am using tool improperly per your comments. I'm holding it closer to
vertical than horizontal. This is causing paint to drip out. I'll
try technique you suggest. Also per
Dave I may leave can open a while covered with mesh to allow some evaporation
which will thicken paint.
Hi Ben,
Do you think an accelerator would help? https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=98105&familyName=Quantum+99+Urethane+Accelerator
I am not sure you need to thicken the
paint. It sounds like you need less of it on the application wheel. Are you
using the tool so the barrel stays below the wheel? The tool should not be used
upright. Ideally when using a pinstripe tool you want to illuminate as much gravity
as you can. This will put less paint on the wheel. Also, if you put the
non-paint end of the tool in the groove on the deck, it will help keep your
line straight as you pull/push the tool to apply paint. Try this technique on a
some paper first, it may be all you need.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
Hi Mark
I'm
painting deck stripes using Beugler tool
Ben
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 3:41 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
Ben
Are
you painting the deck stripes or boot stripes?
With
best regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing
Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
It's time to repaint my stripes. I'm using an available interlux
poly-urethane paint. My problem is paint is too thin and dripping from roller
on striper. Can anyone recommend a thickening agent? Current
mixture is 50/50 Interlux Brightside single part enamel and Interlux flattening
agent. All suggestions welcome.
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Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Ben,
For what it is worth, I did not use flattener, and had to thin the paint slightly.
Bill Rouse BeBe
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
John I'm using exactly the paint and tool but with flattener. My need to forgo the flattener. Ben Driver La Bella Vita SM #347 6S
Hi Ben,
Do you think an
accelerator would help? https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=98105&familyName=Quantum+99+Urethane+Accelerator
I am not sure
you need to thicken the paint. It sounds like you need less of it on the application
wheel. Are you using the tool so the barrel stays below the wheel? The tool should
not be used upright. Ideally when using a pinstripe tool you want to illuminate
as much gravity as you can. This will put less paint on the wheel. Also, if you
put the non-paint end of the tool in the groove on the deck, it will help keep
your line straight as you pull/push the tool to apply paint. Try this technique
on a some paper first, it may be all you need.
With best
regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
Hi Mark
I'm painting deck stripes using Beugler tool
Ben
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 3:41 PM, 'Mark Erdos'
mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
Ben
Are
you painting the deck stripes or boot stripes?
With
best regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing
Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
It's time to repaint my stripes. I'm using an available interlux
poly-urethane paint. My problem is paint is too thin and dripping from roller
on striper. Can anyone recommend a thickening agent? Current
mixture is 50/50 Interlux Brightside single part enamel and Interlux flattening
agent. All suggestions welcome.
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Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
Mark I'm using white - specifically Hatteras off white 1990 from Interlux. It's close to what Bill R used. Ben Ben and Gayle La Bella Vita SM #347 6S
On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:31 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Ben,
I think you are
onto something that will work.
What color are
you using to paint the deck striping?
With best
regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
Not sure about accelerator but maybe a possibility. I
am using tool improperly per your comments. I'm holding it closer to
vertical than horizontal. This is causing paint to drip out. I'll
try technique you suggest. Also per
Dave I may leave can open a while covered with mesh to allow some evaporation
which will thicken paint.
Hi Ben,
Do you think an accelerator would help? https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=98105&familyName=Quantum+99+Urethane+Accelerator
I am not sure you need to thicken the
paint. It sounds like you need less of it on the application wheel. Are you
using the tool so the barrel stays below the wheel? The tool should not be used
upright. Ideally when using a pinstripe tool you want to illuminate as much gravity
as you can. This will put less paint on the wheel. Also, if you put the
non-paint end of the tool in the groove on the deck, it will help keep your
line straight as you pull/push the tool to apply paint. Try this technique on a
some paper first, it may be all you need.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
Hi Mark
I'm
painting deck stripes using Beugler tool
Ben
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 3:41 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
Ben
Are
you painting the deck stripes or boot stripes?
With
best regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing
Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Grenada
www.creampuff.us
It's time to repaint my stripes. I'm using an available interlux
poly-urethane paint. My problem is paint is too thin and dripping from roller
on striper. Can anyone recommend a thickening agent? Current
mixture is 50/50 Interlux Brightside single part enamel and Interlux flattening
agent. All suggestions welcome.
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I'd avoid the accelerator.
Mixing chemistries in polyurethane paints is a bad idea. Accelerators are used in two part polyurethanes, not single part products--which are very different animals. The formulations for these paints are very fussy and mixing from one system or manufacturer to another has a very high chance of failure
Unless you really know coating chemistry, you risk creating a real mess that is hard to clean up.
Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Boston, Mass
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Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
Thanks Bill. I think I'll forego the flattener as well Ben Driver La Bella Vita SM #347 6S
Ben,
For what it is worth, I did not use flattener, and had to thin the paint slightly.
Bill Rouse BeBe
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Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
Hi Bill K Point taken. I think accelerator would be last resort My last chemistry class was nearly 50 years ago as an undergrad and I was not a stellar student. But my first and most fun job was bartender. It was chemistry of a sort😎. Ben
Ben and Gayle La Bella Vita SM #347 6S
On Jul 13, 2017, at 6:01 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
I'd avoid the accelerator.
Mixing chemistries in polyurethane paints is a bad idea. Accelerators are used in two part polyurethanes, not single part products--which are very different animals. The formulations for these paints are very fussy and mixing from one system or manufacturer to another has a very high chance of failure
Unless you really know coating chemistry, you risk creating a real mess that is hard to clean up.
Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Boston, Mass
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Ben, We have had problems using accelerators in single part paints and varnishes since they tend to cause early crazing and failure of the finish. As far as paint viscosity, in general I have found that we always need to thin single part Marine enamels which includes the Interlux Brightsides. I normally thin until the last of the flow off of a paint stick breaks into drops rather than being a continuous flow. It is better to apply these types of coatings in thinner coats and apply more of them since thick coatings don't cure properly. I have found that it usually takes 3 coats of the Brightsides to fully cover the substrate though this is when working on vertical surfaces such as hulls and coverage is likely to be better on horizontal surfaces. I cannot comment on the deck stripping tool since I have never used it but I am sure that you will get the input that you need from the experts here. Best of luck.
James On Jul 13, 2017, at 6:31 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Ben, I think you are onto something that will work. What color are you using to paint the deck striping? With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Grenada www.creampuff.us Not sure about accelerator but maybe a possibility. I am using tool improperly per your comments. I'm holding it closer to vertical than horizontal. This is causing paint to drip out. I'll try technique you suggest. Also per
Dave I may leave can open a while covered with mesh to allow some evaporation which will thicken paint. Hi Ben, Do you think an accelerator would help? https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=98105&familyName=Quantum+99+Urethane+Accelerator I am not sure you need to thicken the paint. It sounds like you need less of it on the application wheel. Are you using the tool so the barrel stays below the wheel? The tool should not be used upright. Ideally when using a pinstripe tool you want to illuminate as much gravity as you can. This will put less paint on the wheel. Also, if you put the non-paint end of the tool in the groove on the deck, it will help keep your line straight as you pull/push the tool to apply paint. Try this technique on a some paper first, it may be all you need. With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Grenada www.creampuff.us Hi Mark I'm painting deck stripes using Beugler tool Ben
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 3:41 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Ben Are you painting the deck stripes or boot stripes? With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Grenada www.creampuff.us It's time to repaint my stripes. I'm using an available interlux poly-urethane paint. My problem is paint is too thin and dripping from roller on striper. Can anyone recommend a thickening agent? Current mixture is 50/50 Interlux Brightside single part enamel and Interlux flattening agent. All suggestions welcome.
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Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
Thanks James. I have found that thinks coats don't cure well Ben Ben and Gayle La Bella Vita SM #347 6S
On Jul 13, 2017, at 6:19 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Ben, We have had problems using accelerators in single part paints and varnishes since they tend to cause early crazing and failure of the finish. As far as paint viscosity, in general I have found that we always need to thin single part Marine enamels which includes the Interlux Brightsides. I normally thin until the last of the flow off of a paint stick breaks into drops rather than being a continuous flow. It is better to apply these types of coatings in thinner coats and apply more of them since thick coatings don't cure properly. I have found that it usually takes 3 coats of the Brightsides to fully cover the substrate though this is when working on vertical surfaces such as hulls and coverage is likely to be better on horizontal surfaces. I cannot comment on the deck stripping tool since I have never used it but I am sure that you will get the input that you need from the experts here. Best of luck.
James On Jul 13, 2017, at 6:31 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Ben, I think you are onto something that will work. What color are you using to paint the deck striping? With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Grenada www.creampuff.us Not sure about accelerator but maybe a possibility. I am using tool improperly per your comments. I'm holding it closer to vertical than horizontal. This is causing paint to drip out. I'll try technique you suggest. Also per
Dave I may leave can open a while covered with mesh to allow some evaporation which will thicken paint. Hi Ben, Do you think an accelerator would help? https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=98105&familyName=Quantum+99+Urethane+Accelerator I am not sure you need to thicken the paint. It sounds like you need less of it on the application wheel. Are you using the tool so the barrel stays below the wheel? The tool should not be used upright. Ideally when using a pinstripe tool you want to illuminate as much gravity as you can. This will put less paint on the wheel. Also, if you put the non-paint end of the tool in the groove on the deck, it will help keep your line straight as you pull/push the tool to apply paint. Try this technique on a some paper first, it may be all you need. With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Grenada www.creampuff.us Hi Mark I'm painting deck stripes using Beugler tool Ben
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 3:41 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Ben Are you painting the deck stripes or boot stripes? With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Grenada www.creampuff.us It's time to repaint my stripes. I'm using an available interlux poly-urethane paint. My problem is paint is too thin and dripping from roller on striper. Can anyone recommend a thickening agent? Current mixture is 50/50 Interlux Brightside single part enamel and Interlux flattening agent. All suggestions welcome.
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