[Amel Yacht Owners] COCO Amel 53 2000 sail sizes


Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I have two sail size specifications from Amel. 

They are not identical.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:30 PM, gdagreen@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I am in the process of ordering a new set of sails in the US while my boat is in Greece.


Does anyone happen to have the factory sizes of the sails and ballooners?


Many thanks 



Ken Powers <sailingaquarius@...>
 

Hi,

Bill told me about QSails, and I am to receive the sails today from QSails.  They have all the measurements.  I have not seen the sails yet, just a photo.  But, the service so far has been awesome!

QSails in Turkey
Emrah Oge - info@...

Ken
Aquarius SM2K #262 
Currently on the hard at PowerBoats in Trinidad
www.sailingaquarius.com


On Friday, September 29, 2017 10:40 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
I have two sail size specifications from Amel. 

They are not identical.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool. com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:30 PM, gdagreen@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
I am in the process of ordering a new set of sails in the US while my boat is in Greece.

Does anyone happen to have the factory sizes of the sails and ballooners?

Many thanks 




Paul Osterberg
 

For info, We bought sails from Q sails about a year ago, but can't say that we are to happy with them, 
They wrinkle a lot when being furled. The shape is at the best awerage. But the price was low. We Will not buy there again. I understand from the forum that other who have ordered from Q sails are pleased. Just want to give our view.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Ken Powers <sailingaquarius@...>
 

Paul,

What was the material material used for your sails?  Aquarius will be fitted with Hydranet sails, and I hope (because Hydranet is not cheap) that they will be good for many years....  

Thanks for your input!

Ken Powers
SV Aquarius SM2K #262
Currently on the hard at PowerBoats in Trinidad



On Friday, September 29, 2017 11:43 AM, "Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi,

Bill told me about QSails, and I am to receive the sails today from QSails.  They have all the measurements.  I have not seen the sails yet, just a photo.  But, the service so far has been awesome!

QSails in Turkey
Emrah Oge - info@...

Ken
Aquarius SM2K #262 
Currently on the hard at PowerBoats in Trinidad
www.sailingaquarius.com


On Friday, September 29, 2017 10:40 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
I have two sail size specifications from Amel. 

They are not identical.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool. com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:30 PM, gdagreen@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
I am in the process of ordering a new set of sails in the US while my boat is in Greece.

Does anyone happen to have the factory sizes of the sails and ballooners?

Many thanks 






Paul Osterberg
 

Ken we had the sails made in something called cruising laminate, substantially lower price than hydrant. I asked Mr oge if it was worth the extra. 30 % to have the sails in hydranet  and he said not really. I thought maybe better to buy new sails a little bit more often. Glad I did so as cutting/ design was not to our liking, we will probably buy new sails within a few seasons again.
Paul 


James Alton
 

Hello All,

  I ordered a  110 percent  tri-radial jib from Q-sails this season.  I provided Q-sails with the dimensions of my original Genoa for the initial quote and then complete measurements for my boat which included the Genoa track positions.  Emrah Oge was my contact and was very prompt and courteous in responding to my emails.  The sail was completed on time and the price was as quoted.  When the sail arrived and was installed on the boat, my initial impression was that the workmanship looked good.  I unfortunately quickly found that have a significant problem with the sail since the sheeting position required to properly trim the sail falls more than a meter ahead of the forward end of my original Genoa track.  The sail will apparently require a recut to fit the boat.  I have emails in to Emrah Oge and he is aware of the problem based on his delayed initial response. I was told that he was having a server problem and certainly this is possible, however there also seems to be a delay in response to my more recent emails as well.  I won't speculate on the eventual outcome at this time since I want to give Emrah Oge adequate time to respond but I will provide a future update on this forum.

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Currently enroute to Stromboli in the Aeolian Islands, Italy



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Ken Powers <sailingaquarius@...>
 

Thanks Paul and James,

Still looking forward to receiving the new Qsails in two days, but no doubt a bit worried in light of your posts.  My hope was to get STOCK AMEL SIZED and CUT SAILS, no changes.  Which I think it should be about a 155 Genoa. Correct?.....  I am still with high hopes for this to work out.  :)  I too will inform everyone as to the outcome of my first sail purchase.  If everything fits as stated by Qsail, I will be a big proponent for Qsails.   

Best,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius SM2K #262
On the hard at PowerBoats in Trinidad
www.sailingaquarius.com





On Friday, September 29, 2017 10:41 PM, "lokiyawl2 lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hello All,

  I ordered a  110 percent  tri-radial jib from Q-sails this season.  I provided Q-sails with the dimensions of my original Genoa for the initial quote and then complete measurements for my boat which included the Genoa track positions.  Emrah Oge was my contact and was very prompt and courteous in responding to my emails.  The sail was completed on time and the price was as quoted.  When the sail arrived and was installed on the boat, my initial impression was that the workmanship looked good.  I unfortunately quickly found that have a significant problem with the sail since the sheeting position required to properly trim the sail falls more than a meter ahead of the forward end of my original Genoa track.  The sail will apparently require a recut to fit the boat.  I have emails in to Emrah Oge and he is aware of the problem based on his delayed initial response. I was told that he was having a server problem and certainly this is possible, however there also seems to be a delay in response to my more recent emails as well.  I won't speculate on the eventual outcome at this time since I want to give Emrah Oge adequate time to respond but I will provide a future update on this forum.

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Currently enroute to Stromboli in the Aeolian Islands, Italy



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James Alton
 

Ken,

   I can certainly understand the anxiety of getting new sails, it is a big purchase that we have to live with for a long time.  Since my previous post on this subject,  Emrah Oge has contacted me via email and has offered to recut the sail so that it will sheet properly.  He has also offered to cover all of the shipping costs.  I am shortening my time in the Aeloian Islands a bit to return to a port where I can ship the sail but so long as the sail comes back and fits I will be fine with this solution.  I won't be able to test the modified sail until next season so my final update on this subject will need to wait until then.  I look forward to hearing about how you like your sails.  Since they are stock sizes I would think that problems should be less likely.  I have found this forum to be a very valuable source of current information to base decisions on purchases for my Amel and appreciate other Amel owners sharing their experiences with various vendors and sources.

Best,

James Alton
SV Sueno, Maramu #220
Pollara, Salina, Italy



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 10/2/17 05:03 (GMT+01:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] COCO Amel 53 2000 sail sizes

 

Thanks Paul and James,

Still looking forward to receiving the new Qsails in two days, but no doubt a bit worried in light of your posts.  My hope was to get STOCK AMEL SIZED and CUT SAILS, no changes.  Which I think it should be about a 155 Genoa. Correct?.....  I am still with high hopes for this to work out.  :)  I too will inform everyone as to the outcome of my first sail purchase.  If everything fits as stated by Qsail, I will be a big proponent for Qsails.   

Best,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius SM2K #262
On the hard at PowerBoats in Trinidad
www.sailingaquarius.com





On Friday, September 29, 2017 10:41 PM, "lokiyawl2 lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Hello All,

  I ordered a  110 percent  tri-radial jib from Q-sails this season.  I provided Q-sails with the dimensions of my original Genoa for the initial quote and then complete measurements for my boat which included the Genoa track positions.  Emrah Oge was my contact and was very prompt and courteous in responding to my emails.  The sail was completed on time and the price was as quoted.  When the sail arrived and was installed on the boat, my initial impression was that the workmanship looked good.  I unfortunately quickly found that have a significant problem with the sail since the sheeting position required to properly trim the sail falls more than a meter ahead of the forward end of my original Genoa track.  The sail will apparently require a recut to fit the boat.  I have emails in to Emrah Oge and he is aware of the problem based on his delayed initial re sponse. I was told that he was having a server problem and certainly this is possible, however there also seems to be a delay in response to my more recent emails as well.  I won't speculate on the eventual outcome at this time since I want to give Emrah Oge adequate time to respond but I will provide a future update on this forum.

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Currently enroute to Stromboli in the Aeolian Islands, Italy



Sent from Samsung tablet.



Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ken,

I had no problems with quality and fit from Tri Radial cut Hydranet from QSails. 

If you added the option of a foam luff on the genoa from any sailmaker, the foam luff reduces/eliminates wrinkles when furling.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970




On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Paul and James,

Still looking forward to receiving the new Qsails in two days, but no doubt a bit worried in light of your posts.  My hope was to get STOCK AMEL SIZED and CUT SAILS, no changes.  Which I think it should be about a 155 Genoa. Correct?.....  I am still with high hopes for this to work out.  :)  I too will inform everyone as to the outcome of my first sail purchase.  If everything fits as stated by Qsail, I will be a big proponent for Qsails.   

Best,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius SM2K #262
On the hard at PowerBoats in Trinidad





On Friday, September 29, 2017 10:41 PM, "lokiyawl2 lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Hello All,

  I ordered a  110 percent  tri-radial jib from Q-sails this season.  I provided Q-sails with the dimensions of my original Genoa for the initial quote and then complete measurements for my boat which included the Genoa track positions.  Emrah Oge was my contact and was very prompt and courteous in responding to my emails.  The sail was completed on time and the price was as quoted.  When the sail arrived and was installed on the boat, my initial impression was that the workmanship looked good.  I unfortunately quickly found that have a significant problem with the sail since the sheeting position required to properly trim the sail falls more than a meter ahead of the forward end of my original Genoa track.  The sail will apparently require a recut to fit the boat.  I have emails in to Emrah Oge and he is aware of the problem based on his delayed initial response. I was told that he was having a server problem and certainly this is possible, however there also seems to be a delay in response to my more recent emails as well.  I won't speculate on the eventual outcome at this time since I want to give Emrah Oge adequate time to respond but I will provide a future update on this forum.

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Currently enroute to Stromboli in the Aeolian Islands, Italy



Sent from Samsung tablet.




Ken Powers <sailingaquarius@...>
 

Hi Bill,

I did order the Genoa with a foam luff, and I am lead to believe my sails should be identical to those on BeBe.  If you were happy with the sails from Qsails on BeBe, I should be very happy with Aquarius' new sails.  The sails are being released from customs tomorrow.  Hoping for the best!

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K #262
sailingaquarius.com


On Monday, October 2, 2017 9:56 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Ken,

I had no problems with quality and fit from Tri Radial cut Hydranet from QSails. 

If you added the option of a foam luff on the genoa from any sailmaker, the foam luff reduces/eliminates wrinkles when furling.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970




On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Thanks Paul and James,

Still looking forward to receiving the new Qsails in two days, but no doubt a bit worried in light of your posts.  My hope was to get STOCK AMEL SIZED and CUT SAILS, no changes.  Which I think it should be about a 155 Genoa. Correct?.....  I am still with high hopes for this to work out.  :)  I too will inform everyone as to the outcome of my first sail purchase.  If everything fits as stated by Qsail, I will be a big proponent for Qsails.   

Best,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius SM2K #262
On the hard at PowerBoats in Trinidad





On Friday, September 29, 2017 10:41 PM, "lokiyawl2 lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:


 
Hello All,

  I ordered a  110 percent  tri-radial jib from Q-sails this season.  I provided Q-sails with the dimensions of my original Genoa for the initial quote and then complete measurements for my boat which included the Genoa track positions.  Emrah Oge was my contact and was very prompt and courteous in responding to my emails.  The sail was completed on time and the price was as quoted.  When the sail arrived and was installed on the boat, my initial impression was that the workmanship looked good.  I unfortunately quickly found that have a significant problem with the sail since the sheeting position required to properly trim the sail falls more than a meter ahead of the forward end of my original Genoa track.  The sail will apparently require a recut to fit the boat.  I have emails in to Emrah Oge and he is aware of the problem based on his delayed initial response. I was told that he was having a server problem and certainly this is possible, however there also seems to be a delay in response to my more recent emails as well.  I won't speculate on the eventual outcome at this time since I want to give Emrah Oge adequate time to respond but I will provide a future update on this forum.

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Currently enroute to Stromboli in the Aeolian Islands, Italy



Sent from Samsung tablet.