[Amel Yacht Owners] Head Pump Out
Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
Hello Mark & Jennifer,
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here is what I used: http://nikimat.com/pump_out_hose.html The hose will suck from the bottom of your tank. Never a fun experience, but gets better with time! Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11/5/17, mgarver@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Head Pump Out To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Sunday, November 5, 2017, 10:14 AM Having recently purchased Super Maramu #105, we encountered a minor issue during our first pump out and that issue being that the standard pump out adapters do not simply screw on to the SM deck fittings, so of course I used the non threaded push in attachment, which again was a bit of an issue due to the diameter of the pump out at the deck. Simply wrapping some rubber gloves around the attachment, and holding it an a very specific position allowed me to finally get the tanks pumped out. My questions is this, "Is there a better method"? I have actually considered getting an adapter made at a machine shop that would allow us to simply use the standard pump out attachments at the various marinas we will be at in the US. Once Marina recommended changing the deck fittings for something standard here, to which I said no, in fear of the "Keeper of all things Amel", Bill R. haunting me during every pump out. Any previous experienced fixes or suggestions to this situation? I apologize if this was already a topic, but I did search and didn't see it. Thanks! Mark and Jennifer GarverS/V It's GoodAmel Super Maramu #105 |
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mfmcgovern@...
Mark,
I had the same issues pumping out initially until I found Alex from Nikimat's page. I used that design to make what my wife and I affectionately call the "poop straw". We used this fitting from Defender: Deck Fill Diameter: 1-5/8 Inch Actual Thread Diameter: 1-1/4 Inch MPT Threads / Inch: 11.5 Model #: 310343503 I simply screwed the fitting into 1.5" ID Sanitation Hose without any sealant or adhesive. We store it in a garbage bag in the port side deep locker. This enabled us to pump out. However, we still struggled to get a good seal between the pump nozzle and the fitting on the "poop straw" mostly because the fitting did not sit flush with the deck due to the length of the hose. I decided to inspect our tank design and found that the bottom of our holding tanks are only about 17 inches below the deck. The drain hose from the bottom of the holding tank to the ball valve is obviously much further below the deck but getting the "poop straw" down in that hole was not easy and made the fitting not sit perpendicular to the deck. I decided to cut the length of the "poop straw" to approximately 17 inches below the foam seal on the fitting. I also made sure to cut the bottom on a bit of an angle. The fitting now sits flush with the deck and I can simply press the pump into the fitting to get a good seal and can pump out with ease. It doesn't empty the tank 100% but it does get the vast majority out and it now takes us no time and the process is significantly cleaner too. I will add a new album called "Holding Tank Pump Out" with some pictures of our "poop straw" to the photos section. Hope this helps. Mark SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA |
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Alexandre, Thank you for the quick reply! Also, so sorry to hear about your boat and all of the other issues you have had with Hurricane Harvey. St. Maarten is one of my favorite places and I used to live there several years ago, mostly while doing work there and is certainly on our list of sailing destinations. I hope things are getting better on the island for you and others. I have heard from a couple of friends, but not all, just hoping they are okay and simply dislocated. You are in our thoughts at all times and we are always hoping for the best for you! Thanks again! Mark On Nov 05, 2017, at 11:53 AM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:
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Mark, Thanks for the additional information, I am going to give it a try. Looking forward to the pictures of your poop straw. :) Best, Mark and Jennifer S/V It's Good AMEL SM #105 Currently in Gloucester, VA - Heading south to Charleston, SC soon! On Nov 05, 2017, at 02:58 PM, "mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:
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Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
Good morning Mark,
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Thanks for your nice message. Actually was Hurricane Irma (not Harvey), but same result. I really like Sint Maarten/Saint Martin! There is a good balance of the Dutch side, very efficient like in the US, and the good food and laid back attitude of the French side! Plus the import tax is pretty low 0 to 4%, compare to 60% for the Bahamas or Turks & Caicos (which I love as well). Where did you stayed in Sint Maarten? The salvage work started, then the government stop it, then now it resumed. At the marina: a half sunk sailboat have been towed, and another raised from water waiting to be towed and destroyed. The catamaran that flew on the roof of the Yacht Club has been removed. In the Lagoon I see 3 other boats that have been raised and are waiting on mooring balls to be scraped. But I think the cleaning will take longer than people originally thought. I have been twice to the French side, was more damaged: 95% of the building had damaged (I estimate 1/3 completely destroyed). They are a bit slower, or may be more careful with the work (here on the Dutch side, people don’t wait for building permit, they just rebuild). I am renting a car next week, will see if there is progress. I think I found a great lawyer, actually a law teacher, technically retired, who also sailed and had a bad experience with Helvetia so is eager to help. He was refered to me by another lawyer who own a Super Maramu, now retired in St Barth so will meet next month! Small world! Hope we met sometime! Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11/5/17, Mark Garver mgarver@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Head Pump Out To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Sunday, November 5, 2017, 6:35 PM Alexandre, Thank you for the quick reply! Also, so sorry to hear about your boat and all of the other issues you have had with Hurricane Harvey. St. Maarten is one of my favorite places and I used to live there several years ago, mostly while doing work there and is certainly on our list of sailing destinations. I hope things are getting better on the island for you and others. I have heard from a couple of friends, but not all, just hoping they are okay and simply dislocated. You are in our thoughts at all times and we are always hoping for the best for you! Thanks again! Mark On Nov 05, 2017, at 11:53 AM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hello Mark & Jennifer, here is what I used: http://nikimat.com/pump_out_hose.html The hose will suck from the bottom of your tank. Never a fun experience, but gets better with time! Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11/5/17, mgarver@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Head Pump Out To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Sunday, November 5, 2017, 10:14 AM Having recently purchased Super Maramu #105, we encountered a minor issue during our first pump out and that issue being that the standard pump out adapters do not simply screw on to the SM deck fittings, so of course I used the non threaded push in attachment, which again was a bit of an issue due to the diameter of the pump out at the deck. Simply wrapping some rubber gloves around the attachment, and holding it an a very specific position allowed me to finally get the tanks pumped out. My questions is this, "Is there a better method"? I have actually considered getting an adapter made at a machine shop that would allow us to simply use the standard pump out attachments at the various marinas we will be at in the US. Once Marina recommended changing the deck fittings for something standard here, to which I said no, in fear of the "Keeper of all things Amel", Bill R. haunting me during every pump out. Any previous experienced fixes or suggestions to this situation? I apologize if this was already a topic, but I did search and didn't see it. Thanks! Mark and Jennifer GarverS/V It's GoodAmel Super Maramu #105 |
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