[Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46


Mark Erdos
 

Graham,

 

Dumb question but, have you determined the DC breaker for the aft lights is operational?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Can anyone help me with an electrical problem in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.

All the lights in the aft cabin have failed.  We checked all the bulbs,
of course! We have established that the problem is with the positive
cable as we have checked the negative (ground) cable and it has
continuity. 
We've established that, if we get power to any one of the light
fittings, all will then work. 

We can't work out how the positive cable gets from the circuit breaker
on the 12v panel and the first light in the aft cabin.  All the cables
are hidden. 

If anyone has had this problem before or has access to a cable routing
diagram, I'd be glad of your experience. 

Kind regards

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

I have never seen a CB for the aft cabin lights. They always operate with the main cabin lights CB on the 12v panel.  It's a Maramu, not a Super Maramu and may well be simpler. 

Kind regards

Graham
Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, 11:13 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Graham,

 

Dumb question but, have you determined the DC breaker for the aft lights is operational?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Can anyone help me with an electrical problem in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.

All the lights in the aft cabin have failed.  We checked all the bulbs,
of course! We have established that the problem is with the positive
cable as we have checked the negative (ground) cable and it has
continuity. 
We've established that, if we get power to any one of the light
fittings, all will then work. 

We can't work out how the positive cable gets from the circuit breaker
on the 12v panel and the first light in the aft cabin.  All the cables
are hidden. 

If anyone has had this problem before or has access to a cable routing
diagram, I'd be glad of your experience. 

Kind regards

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


John Clark
 

Yes mine as well from the salon main panel however I discovered more breakers....  

If you haven't done any electrical work I find it odd that the positive leg is dead...zero volts right?

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 8:18 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

I have never seen a CB for the aft cabin lights. They always operate with the main cabin lights CB on the 12v panel.  It's a Maramu, not a Super Maramu and may well be simpler. 

Kind regards

Graham
Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, 11:13 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Graham,

 

Dumb question but, have you determined the DC breaker for the aft lights is operational?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Can anyone help me with an electrical problem in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.

All the lights in the aft cabin have failed.  We checked all the bulbs,
of course! We have established that the problem is with the positive
cable as we have checked the negative (ground) cable and it has
continuity. 
We've established that, if we get power to any one of the light
fittings, all will then work. 

We can't work out how the positive cable gets from the circuit breaker
on the 12v panel and the first light in the aft cabin.  All the cables
are hidden. 

If anyone has had this problem before or has access to a cable routing
diagram, I'd be glad of your experience. 

Kind regards

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


amelforme
 

Although I am not absolutely certain about the last two years of Maramu production,  Maramus previous had three breakers for the interior lights. Forward cabin lights had a breaker on the drop open panel with the mast light breakers. Saloon lights on the main 12 volt DC panel adjacent to the companionway and the aft cabin with a single breaker most commonly mounted on the vertical panel with the open storage compartments just behind the marine toilet. As you face this panel, it is usually in the upper left hand part of that area.

 

Let us know what you discover…  

 

          JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 7:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

I have never seen a CB for the aft cabin lights. They always operate with the main cabin lights CB on the 12v panel.  It's a Maramu, not a Super Maramu and may well be simpler. 

 

Kind regards

 

Graham

Jamesby

Maramu 46 #240

 

 

On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, 11:13 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

Graham,

 

Dumb question but, have you determined the DC breaker for the aft lights is operational?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Can anyone help me with an electrical problem in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.

All the lights in the aft cabin have failed.  We checked all the bulbs,
of course! We have established that the problem is with the positive
cable as we have checked the negative (ground) cable and it has
continuity. 
We've established that, if we get power to any one of the light
fittings, all will then work. 

We can't work out how the positive cable gets from the circuit breaker
on the 12v panel and the first light in the aft cabin.  All the cables
are hidden. 

If anyone has had this problem before or has access to a cable routing
diagram, I'd be glad of your experience. 

Kind regards

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


Eric Freedman
 

Hi,

I cannot tell you how Amel wired your lighting. I would start by finding the circuit breaker that controls that light and see if it working.  However I had a similar problem on Kimberlite in my forward cabin.  The wire started in a cabinet in the forward cabin. I had to lift up  the glued down material, As I followed the wire I stuck a straight pin into the wire to measure the voltage between the wire and the ground wire.

The wire did not have voltage under the material. I then followed the wire along the moldings that ran along the cabin side. They routed out the molding to accommodate the wire. Still nothing under that piece of molding.

The wire continued under a piece of molding that ran across the cabin top inside. 

I finally found a break in the wire and fixed it.

 

In other areas of the boat  I see that they ran wires under the headliner.

I would start by checking the breaker and then tracing the wire. It will probably follow a similar path as I have described either under molding or headliner or other fabric. They were quite cleaver in routing these wires.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 9:11 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Yes mine as well from the salon main panel however I discovered more breakers....  

 

If you haven't done any electrical work I find it odd that the positive leg is dead...zero volts right?

 

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 8:18 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

I have never seen a CB for the aft cabin lights. They always operate with the main cabin lights CB on the 12v panel.  It's a Maramu, not a Super Maramu and may well be simpler. 

 

Kind regards

 

Graham

Jamesby

Maramu 46 #240

 

 

On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, 11:13 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

Graham,

 

Dumb question but, have you determined the DC breaker for the aft lights is operational?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Can anyone help me with an electrical problem in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.

All the lights in the aft cabin have failed.  We checked all the bulbs,
of course! We have established that the problem is with the positive
cable as we have checked the negative (ground) cable and it has
continuity. 
We've established that, if we get power to any one of the light
fittings, all will then work. 

We can't work out how the positive cable gets from the circuit breaker
on the 12v panel and the first light in the aft cabin.  All the cables
are hidden. 

If anyone has had this problem before or has access to a cable routing
diagram, I'd be glad of your experience. 

Kind regards

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


 

Graham,

I believe that it is not possible to answer your question because Amel made changes to all model boats during each model's production years, and because no person in this group actually knows what previous owners did to your boat. Trust me on the latter. I have been aboard many different models and models with different years of production, going to where I absolutely knew something should be, only to find it either totally missing or replaced with something else.

It is risky to compare one Amel model to the same model, especially when they are old enough to have been owned by several owners, some of whom either didn't care, or didn't know how to maintain it.

I am sure with patience you will resolve your issue. If not, find a recommended electrician.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 06:11 claysparkes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Am I correct that there is a breaker in the aft head?


Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

Thank you to everyone who answered this and for the wiring diagram. 

I cannot believe how stupid I have been!  For some reason for which I
can't account, I was convinced that the "AR" circuit breaker in the aft
heads was for the air-conditioning system, which we never use.  It turns
out that it is indeed the circuit breaker for the aft cabin electrics as
several of you have said. 

Needless to say, once it was made, all the lights work again! 

I'm sorry that I have wasted your time. 

Kind regards and thanks

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


John Clark
 

Ah Ha!   Sorry have to do the "I was right dance"....just a little!  ;)

Graham, your question is exactly what the forum is for.  Amel does things a little different and we have all had those banging your head on an Amel "problem" that really wasn't.  

After so many years of q and a  there is likely an answer to most all question asked.  The experience and insight here is staggering. 

So your breaker has a large. AR on top and the buttons are labeled arretter and Marche, stop and run respectively.    

I worked for EDF the French power company...you pick up little things.  

All the best with your Amel, and don't be concerned about asking questions.  

Regards,. John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Carriacou


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:57 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Thank you to everyone who answered this and for the wiring diagram.. 

I cannot believe how stupid I have been!  For some reason for which I
can't account, I was convinced that the "AR" circuit breaker in the aft
heads was for the air-conditioning system, which we never use.  It turns
out that it is indeed the circuit breaker for the aft cabin electrics as
several of you have said. 

Needless to say, once it was made, all the lights work again! 

I'm sorry that I have wasted your time. 

Kind regards and thanks

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


amelforme
 

AR stands for arriere/the rear in French. The one up in the forecabin says AV which stands for avant/ before or in front in French.

Don’t be hard on yourself. Enjoy your Amel.

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Dec 10, 2018, at 11:50 AM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ah Ha!   Sorry have to do the "I was right dance"....just a little!  ;)

Graham, your question is exactly what the forum is for.  Amel does things a little different and we have all had those banging your head on an Amel "problem" that really wasn't.  

After so many years of q and a  there is likely an answer to most all question asked..  The experience and insight here is staggering. 

So your breaker has a large. AR on top and the buttons are labeled arretter and Marche, stop and run respectively.    

I worked for EDF the French power company...you pick up little things.  

All the best with your Amel, and don't be concerned about asking questions.  

Regards,. John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Carriacou


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:57 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Thank you to everyone who answered this and for the wiring diagram... 

I cannot believe how stupid I have been!  For some reason for which I
can't account, I was convinced that the "AR" circuit breaker in the aft
heads was for the air-conditioning system, which we never use.  It turns
out that it is indeed the circuit breaker for the aft cabin electrics as
several of you have said. 

Needless to say, once it was made, all the lights work again! 

I'm sorry that I have wasted your time. 

Kind regards and thanks

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240