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JOHN HAYES

#44090

Thanks very much Craig

I think the mast furling motor is something to do with the armature

Also the motor has 4 wires coming from it and an auto electrician is telling me there should be 3

I’m reluctAnt to let him fiddle further as I’m brooding that dropping from 4 to 3 may have an impact on the relays

The problem with the furler is water entry. I guess my fault

I’ve replaced the mast and boom end gearboxes son after buying the boat and rebuilt the gears for the furler

Seemed strange both motors got indigestion on the same day though can see for different reasons

Anyhow now travelling to Wellington where I either hope to get the armature rewound or repaired and buy a new furler motor (S)

But I have no idea of brand or motor spec to look for and I was hoping someone who had been down the road before me may have helped with advice to cut a few corners. I’ve searched papers on the boat but no joy .... all I know as mine are 12 not not 24 volts

Best

John

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On 29/01/2019, at 2:48 PM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi John.
I started a new topic for you as you had buried your post in a thread about insurance which is quite confusing.

It may be more helpful if you would describe what problem you have that suggests you want to replace your original furler motors, or are you looking for spares, or what? Usually, the reduction gears are the problem, not the motors and if you tell us bit more about your problem we may be able to offer more helpful suggestions. As to your headsail, again, some more information about what you want to do would help you to get more useful replies. Have you approached a sailmaker about this and have a question, or what?

Best regards,
Craig Briggs, SN68 - Sangaris, Ft Pierce, Florida

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Happy new year one and all

Anyone out there replaced the original furler motors in past and head sail on a Santorini and if so be really great full to learn the name and spec of replacement units

Best

John Hayes
NGA Waka
SN 41

New Zealand

Craig Briggs

#44099

Hi John,

Before you dismiss your auto electrician, tell him this motor is wired to run either forward or backward, which, of course, he would never have seen on an automobile, and hence, four wires. That may give him an "aha moment" and he can get on with repairs and understand he cannot go to 3 wires.

But, before you proceed, did you test the motor yourself by putting 12v directly to the motor wires? Did you test to be sure you've got 12v at the feed wires after disconnecting the motors and operating the furler switches.

I ask because the the diagnosis of needing a rewind on both motors is, well, "unique" at best. It would be very, very unlikely that both motors failed the same day due to water intrusion. It is very, very likely that you've got a different problem. Keep checking before you go to the expense of new equipment and let us know what you find. As our Yogi Berra said, "You can observe a lot by looking around."

If it comes to buying replacements, I don't know the original spec (I just fix the old ;-), but your auto mechanic should be able to size an equivalent replacement - these are just off-the-shelf items, not unique Amel stuff.

Hope this helps a bit,

Cheers, Craig Briggs, SN68

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