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SM Goiot Hatch Models & Lense Colors


Gary Silver
 
Edited

Hi All:  

First post on the new site.  Really great search engine here, but wasn't able to find this info. Doing the research to replace a couple of lenses on my Goiot hatches as they are starting to have crazing (the little speckles that appear in the lense with UV/aging).  I believe the hatches on the forward deck of the my Amel SM 2000 #335 are Goiot Traditional model hatches and the hatch on the aft face of the aft cabin is a Goiot Cristal model.  Can anyone confirm these model designations for me?

The saloon hatch is the ??  PN 50.50  ??, and the aft cabin hatch is ??? PN 49.36-T50 ????  Confirmation from anybody aboard.

Lenses for the foredeck are "blue" , I believe, and it must be that Amel somehow made the forward cabin and forward head lenses seimi-opaque as I don't see that Goiot offers that option.  Any thoughts on that process?

Goiot offers both blue and gray lenses.  I am virtually certain that the saloon hatch lens is blue, but am uncertain about the color of the aft cabin hatch lenses color (comes standard as gray) or for the color of the forward cabin and forward head lenses.    Any thoughts and information would be appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona'
Amel SM #335   -  Puerto Del Rey Marina - Fajardo Puerto Rico


amelforme
 

Hi Gary. Not sure of anything except Amel sanded those two hatches, with a jitterbug, to opaque those hatches for privacy.
Pretty sure your guesses on the colors are correct. 

All The Best, Joel
JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi All:  

First post on the new site.  Really great search engine here, but wasn't able to find this info. Doing the research to replace a couple of lenses on my Goiot hatches as they are starting to have crazing (the little speckles that appear in the lense with UV/aging.  I believe the hatches on the deck of the my Amel SM 2000 #335 are Goiot Traditional model hatches and the hatch on the aft face of the aft cabin is a Goiot Cristal Range model.  Can anyone confirm these model designations for me.  The saloon hatch is the PN 50.50, and the aft cabin hatch is ??? PN 49.36-T50 ????

Lenses for the foredeck are "blue" , I believe, and it must be that Amel somehow made the forward cabin and forward head lenses seimi-opaque as I don't see that Goiot offers that option.  Any thoughts on that process?

Goiot offers both blue and gray lenses.  I am virtually certain that the saloon hatch lenses is blue, but am uncertain about the color of the aft cabin hatch lenses color (comes standard as gray) or for the color of the forward cabin and forward head lenses.    Any thoughts and information would be appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona'
Amel SM #335   -  Puerto Del Rey Marina - Fajardo Puerto Rico


Patrick McAneny
 

Gary, I just bought a large roll of semi opaque material that I applied like a decal, floated on with water ,squeegeed on to my main cabin hatch. Looks identical to the other hatches. It cut down on the sunlight quite a bit. I found it in a place that does window designs in LeMarin. I would call Goiot ,they should be able to do that for you. If nothing else ,I would be willing to mail you enough to do a few hatches. We will be in Culebra in March,if you’re over that way.
Good Luck,
Pat
SM Shenanigans



On Feb 18, 2019, at 10:34 AM, Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi All:  

First post on the new site.  Really great search engine here, but wasn't able to find this info. Doing the research to replace a couple of lenses on my Goiot hatches as they are starting to have crazing (the little speckles that appear in the lense with UV/aging).  I believe the hatches on the forward deck of the my Amel SM 2000 #335 are Goiot Traditional model hatches and the hatch on the aft face of the aft cabin is a Goiot Cristal model.  Can anyone confirm these model designations for me?

The saloon hatch is the ??  PN 50.50  ??, and the aft cabin hatch is ??? PN 49.36-T50 ????  Confirmation from anybody aboard.

Lenses for the foredeck are "blue" , I believe, and it must be that Amel somehow made the forward cabin and forward head lenses seimi-opaque as I don't see that Goiot offers that option.  Any thoughts on that process?

Goiot offers both blue and gray lenses.  I am virtually certain that the saloon hatch lens is blue, but am uncertain about the color of the aft cabin hatch lenses color (comes standard as gray) or for the color of the forward cabin and forward head lenses.    Any thoughts and information would be appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona'
Amel SM #335   -  Puerto Del Rey Marina - Fajardo Puerto Rico


karkauai
 

Hi Gary,
I can confirm the Tradition and Cristal hatch models.  I replaced the lens over the forward head with clear plexiglass, cut locally to match the old lens.  I scuffed it up with a random orbital sander and 320 grit paper.
Sorry, o can’t help you with color of lenses.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...> wrote:

Hi All:  

First post on the new site.  Really great search engine here, but wasn't able to find this info. Doing the research to replace a couple of lenses on my Goiot hatches as they are starting to have crazing (the little speckles that appear in the lense with UV/aging.  I believe the hatches on the deck of the my Amel SM 2000 #335 are Goiot Traditional model hatches and the hatch on the aft face of the aft cabin is a Goiot Cristal Range model.  Can anyone confirm these model designations for me.  

Lenses for the foredeck are "blue" , I believe, and it must be that Amel somehow made the forward cabin and forward head lenses seimi-opaque as I don't see that Goiot offers that option.  Any thoughts on that process?

Goiot offers both blue and gray lenses.  I am virtually certain that the saloon hatch lenses is blue, but am uncertain about the color of the aft cabin hatch lenses color.   Any thoughts and information would be appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona'
Amel SM #335   -  Puerto Del Rey Marina - Fajardo Puerto Rico


James Cromie
 

Pat - I am currently in Culebra and plan to in and out of Ensenada Honda through March.  If no one else is interested in some of the spare material you have, I’d be interested in some of it!  I’d love to meet you here as well.  

Cheers,
James
SV Soteria 347
Culebra

On Feb 18, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32@...> wrote:

Gary, I just bought a large roll of semi opaque material that I applied like a decal, floated on with water ,squeegeed on to my main cabin hatch. Looks identical to the other hatches. It cut down on the sunlight quite a bit. I found it in a place that does window designs in LeMarin. I would call Goiot ,they should be able to do that for you. If nothing else ,I would be willing to mail you enough to do a few hatches. We will be in Culebra in March,if you’re over that way.
Good Luck,
Pat
SM Shenanigans



On Feb 18, 2019, at 10:34 AM, Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi All:  

First post on the new site.  Really great search engine here, but wasn't able to find this info. Doing the research to replace a couple of lenses on my Goiot hatches as they are starting to have crazing (the little speckles that appear in the lense with UV/aging).  I believe the hatches on the forward deck of the my Amel SM 2000 #335 are Goiot Traditional model hatches and the hatch on the aft face of the aft cabin is a Goiot Cristal model.  Can anyone confirm these model designations for me?

The saloon hatch is the ??  PN 50.50  ??, and the aft cabin hatch is ??? PN 49.36-T50 ????  Confirmation from anybody aboard.

Lenses for the foredeck are "blue" , I believe, and it must be that Amel somehow made the forward cabin and forward head lenses seimi-opaque as I don't see that Goiot offers that option.  Any thoughts on that process?

Goiot offers both blue and gray lenses.  I am virtually certain that the saloon hatch lens is blue, but am uncertain about the color of the aft cabin hatch lenses color (comes standard as gray) or for the color of the forward cabin and forward head lenses.    Any thoughts and information would be appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona'
Amel SM #335   -  Puerto Del Rey Marina - Fajardo Puerto Rico


James Cromie
 

Kent - What adhesive did you use to affix the new plexiglass to the hatch frame? 

-James
Soteria 347

On Feb 18, 2019, at 2:15 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi Gary,
I can confirm the Tradition and Cristal hatch models.  I replaced the lens over the forward head with clear plexiglass, cut locally to match the old lens.  I scuffed it up with a random orbital sander and 320 grit paper.
Sorry, o can’t help you with color of lenses.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...> wrote:

Hi All:  

First post on the new site.  Really great search engine here, but wasn't able to find this info. Doing the research to replace a couple of lenses on my Goiot hatches as they are starting to have crazing (the little speckles that appear in the lense with UV/aging.  I believe the hatches on the deck of the my Amel SM 2000 #335 are Goiot Traditional model hatches and the hatch on the aft face of the aft cabin is a Goiot Cristal Range model.  Can anyone confirm these model designations for me.  

Lenses for the foredeck are "blue" , I believe, and it must be that Amel somehow made the forward cabin and forward head lenses seimi-opaque as I don't see that Goiot offers that option.  Any thoughts on that process?

Goiot offers both blue and gray lenses.  I am virtually certain that the saloon hatch lenses is blue, but am uncertain about the color of the aft cabin hatch lenses color.   Any thoughts and information would be appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona'
Amel SM #335   -  Puerto Del Rey Marina - Fajardo Puerto Rico


karkauai
 

Hi James,
I used Dow Chemical’s Dowsil 795 silicone sealant.  It comes in a grey color that works well in the hatch.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 PM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Kent - What adhesive did you use to affix the new plexiglass to the hatch frame? 

-James
Soteria 347
On Feb 18, 2019, at 2:15 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi Gary,
I can confirm the Tradition and Cristal hatch models.  I replaced the lens over the forward head with clear plexiglass, cut locally to match the old lens.  I scuffed it up with a random orbital sander and 320 grit paper.
Sorry, o can’t help you with color of lenses.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...> wrote:

Hi All:  

First post on the new site.  Really great search engine here, but wasn't able to find this info. Doing the research to replace a couple of lenses on my Goiot hatches as they are starting to have crazing (the little speckles that appear in the lense with UV/aging.  I believe the hatches on the deck of the my Amel SM 2000 #335 are Goiot Traditional model hatches and the hatch on the aft face of the aft cabin is a Goiot Cristal Range model.  Can anyone confirm these model designations for me.  

Lenses for the foredeck are "blue" , I believe, and it must be that Amel somehow made the forward cabin and forward head lenses seimi-opaque as I don't see that Goiot offers that option.  Any thoughts on that process?

Goiot offers both blue and gray lenses.  I am virtually certain that the saloon hatch lenses is blue, but am uncertain about the color of the aft cabin hatch lenses color.   Any thoughts and information would be appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona'
Amel SM #335   -  Puerto Del Rey Marina - Fajardo Puerto Rico


Gary Silver
 
Edited

Thanks Kent, and everyone else that replied with data and knowledge on this subject:

I have collated the following data from the RigRite dot com web site and the Goiot-Systems dot com web sites:  Please chime-in if something doesn't fit with what you are seeing on your boat (I am off the boat for a month or so, so will depend on you all to confirm the dimensions etc.)

Forward Cabin and Saloon Hatches:   Goiot Tradition Model (group as Goiot calls them)  Size 50.50, Code 121155, weight 8.0 kg, cutout dimension 500 x 500 mm, overall dimension 582 x 554 mm,  Acrylic thickness 10 mm, lid height 46 mm, lens size 506 x 506 mm.  RigRite Part numbers: Blue tinted Lens part number Goi 101176,  Fly screen Goi 93468, Gasket Goi HT-GS.

Forward Head Hatch: Goiot Tradition Model,  Size 50.37, Code 121154, weight 6.7 kg, cutout dimension 500 x 370 mm, overall dimension 554 x 451 mm,  Acrylic thickness 10 mm, lid height 46 mm, lens size 506 x 376 mm.   RigRite Part numbers: Blue tinted Lens part number Goi 101175,  Fly screen Goi 93464, Gasket Goi HT-GS.

Aft Cabin Hatch: Goiot Cristal Model,  Size T-50 size, Model 49.36, Code 115753, Overall dimension 559 x 452 mm, height 28 mm.  Acrylic thickness 10 mm.  Lens size is 478 x 348 mm.   RigRite Part numbers: Blue tinted Lens part number is Goi100920, Fly screen is Goi 101651X, Gasket Goi HC-GL.

Thanks for all the help and expertise.  Per Joel's and Kent's suggestion I think I will just use an orbital sander to to opacify the lenses on the forward two hatches as opposed to applying a film.

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 #335   lying Puerto Del Rey Marina slip 1258, Puerto Rico


James Cromie
 

Thank you Kent. 
James

On Feb 19, 2019 10:01, "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi James,
I used Dow Chemical’s Dowsil 795 silicone sealant.  It comes in a grey color that works well in the hatch.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 PM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Kent - What adhesive did you use to affix the new plexiglass to the hatch frame? 

-James
Soteria 347
On Feb 18, 2019, at 2:15 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi Gary,
I can confirm the Tradition and Cristal hatch models.  I replaced the lens over the forward head with clear plexiglass, cut locally to match the old lens.  I scuffed it up with a random orbital sander and 320 grit paper.
Sorry, o can’t help you with color of lenses.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...> wrote:

Hi All:  

First post on the new site.  Really great search engine here, but wasn't able to find this info. Doing the research to replace a couple of lenses on my Goiot hatches as they are starting to have crazing (the little speckles that appear in the lense with UV/aging.  I believe the hatches on the deck of the my Amel SM 2000 #335 are Goiot Traditional model hatches and the hatch on the aft face of the aft cabin is a Goiot Cristal Range model.  Can anyone confirm these model designations for me.  

Lenses for the foredeck are "blue" , I believe, and it must be that Amel somehow made the forward cabin and forward head lenses seimi-opaque as I don't see that Goiot offers that option.  Any thoughts on that process?

Goiot offers both blue and gray lenses.  I am virtually certain that the saloon hatch lenses is blue, but am uncertain about the color of the aft cabin hatch lenses color.   Any thoughts and information would be appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona'
Amel SM #335   -  Puerto Del Rey Marina - Fajardo Puerto Rico



seagasm
 

Kent, how did you remove the original plexiglass from the frame?

Barry
Tradewinds III SM #171


karkauai
 

Hi Barry,
I just cut the sealant with a utility knife from the top and pried it out with a screwdriver, cutting remaining sealant from the bottom as it came up.

There’s a great product made by 3M called Adhesive Remover, Citrus Base that works great for getting the sealant remnants cleaned out before reglazing.


Another good product for this is Marine Formula by DeBond Corp


It’s really hard to remove silicone, but this stuff will help you get it down to bare metal with just a little patience.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy.

On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:05 PM, seagasm <seagasm@...> wrote:

Kent, how did you remove the original plexiglass from the frame?

Barry
Tradewinds III SM #171


seagasm
 

Thank you Kent, one final question, how thick is the plexiglass? 

Barry
TW3 #171


karkauai
 

I’m not certain, Barry, I think it’s 5/16” (8mm).

Acrylic might be a better choice right under the mast, it’s supposed to be a bit stronger than plexiglass.  If you’re going to abrade the surface to make it frosted, the greater likelihood of scratching won’t make a difference.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Feb 20, 2019, at 4:07 PM, seagasm <seagasm@...> wrote:

Thank you Kent, one final question, how thick is the plexiglass? 

Barry
TW3 #171


Gary Silver
 

Barry

The Goiot web site and RigRite (parts supplier) indicate that the plexiglas for these hatches is 10 mm thick.  

Gary
s/v Liahona  SM 2000 #335
Puerto Rico


seagasm
 

Thank you Gary, much appreciated.

Barry
Tradewinds III SM 171