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Staysail on a Super Maramu


eric freedman
 

Hi Amelians,

I have been speaking with Amel Martinique. They say they never delivered a Super Maramu with a Staysail.

I believe a number of you have had them installed when the boat was manufactured.

If you have a factory (LA Rochelle) installed please contact me.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Gerald Bassin
 

Hi Eric
If you are interested in having one installed , pls contact me at
huey at hispeed.ch, I may be able to help.
Brgrds
Gerald Bassin
Jetlag SM 113


On 7 Oct 2019, at 04:20, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Amelians,

I have been speaking with Amel Martinique. They say they never delivered a Super Maramu with a Staysail.

I believe a number of you have had them installed when the boat was manufactured.

If you have a factory (LA Rochelle) installed please contact me.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


amelforme
 

Hi Eric and I can confirm that the Amel folks in Martinique are correct and Amel never delivered a SM 53 with a staysail installed by the yard. They almost did once but decided at the last moment not to. After delivery, the boat was taken to a local rigger who installed a staysail. I was peripherally familiar with this sequence of events.

As you know, Jacques Carteau who was Amel’s technical manager/chief engineer-designer as well as a reluctant CEO on two separate occasions. His job was to take Captain Amel’s thoughts and do the engineering and then work with the production manager to be sure the boats were built properly.

Mr. Carteau encouraged my curiosity about all things Amel and spent quite some time with me over the years to answer all my questions so I could better inform my Amel customers about all the special and unique features which made Amel boats so desirable for serious offshore adventuring.

Mr. Carteau once explained why he would not install a staysail on a Super Maramu. When I gently but insistently told him that a staysail would enhance the boat both from a performance as well as a safety standpoint, he actually drew me a drawing showing what he said was the only correct way to install a staysail but urged me not to do so.

I have written about this in these spaces before and perhaps someone could dig my staysail install instructions out of the archives. If not, I could do it once again if anyone is interested.

Most of the Amel staysail installs I have seen were done incorrectly and apply serious loads into components that were never designed for such loading, according to what Mr. Carteau showed and told me.

 

Have Fun With Your Amel, Joel    

 

       JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:20 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Staysail on a Super Maramu

 

Hi Amelians,

I have been speaking with Amel Martinique. They say they never delivered a Super Maramu with a Staysail.

I believe a number of you have had them installed when the boat was manufactured.

If you have a factory (LA Rochelle) installed please contact me.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Charles Macdonald <c.macdonald@...>
 

On my Maramu, I  had my staysail (trinquette avec enrouleur sur étai fixe) installed by Secteur Blanc in La Rochelle. The owner/manager has been working for and under Henri Amel for twenty years or more. They know what they are doing.
Charles
SV Inuit


Thomas Kleman
 

My staysail is not from La Rochelle. However is was installed by Caraibe Greement (just down the dock from Amel in Martinique) per Alban's instructions regarding how it should be done. Very robust bracing and backstays along with the dos and donts of using it.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM 2K 422


Paul Osterberg
 

We had a stay sail installed a few years ago in Turkey. Olivier had a look t it and had nothing negative to say about the installation. However the cut on the jib it self was not good. This year when our heard sail swivel broke down, it was a great advantage to have the stay sail. The same when our Genoa started to delaminate and falling apart on the way to the Azores, from Bermuda again it was great to have a stay sail. It will save on your genoa who will not need to be deployed in have weather up wind sailing. I do not find the stay sail to be an obstacle when tacking. First if going up wind we do not tack very often from 30 minutes to maybe 3 hours between the tack. Second we furl in ca 50 % of the Genua during the tack which we did even before we had the stay sail.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


eric freedman
 

Hi,

I could not connect to your Email.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Bassin
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2019 2:34 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Staysail on a Super Maramu

 

Hi Eric

If you are interested in having one installed , pls contact me at

huey at hispeed.ch, I may be able to help.

Brgrds

Gerald Bassin

Jetlag SM 113


On 7 Oct 2019, at 04:20, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Amelians,

I have been speaking with Amel Martinique. They say they never delivered a Super Maramu with a Staysail.

I believe a number of you have had them installed when the boat was manufactured.

If you have a factory (LA Rochelle) installed please contact me.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


eric freedman
 

HI Joel,

I believe I have the drawing you are referring to.

If I remember it had a strop around the mast at the upper spreader—not for me.

How are you and Vela?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of amelforme
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2019 8:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Cc: jfpottercys@...
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Staysail on a Super Maramu

 

Hi Eric and I can confirm that the Amel folks in Martinique are correct and Amel never delivered a SM 53 with a staysail installed by the yard. They almost did once but decided at the last moment not to. After delivery, the boat was taken to a local rigger who installed a staysail. I was peripherally familiar with this sequence of events.

As you know, Jacques Carteau who was Amel’s technical manager/chief engineer-designer as well as a reluctant CEO on two separate occasions. His job was to take Captain Amel’s thoughts and do the engineering and then work with the production manager to be sure the boats were built properly.

Mr. Carteau encouraged my curiosity about all things Amel and spent quite some time with me over the years to answer all my questions so I could better inform my Amel customers about all the special and unique features which made Amel boats so desirable for serious offshore adventuring.

Mr. Carteau once explained why he would not install a staysail on a Super Maramu. When I gently but insistently told him that a staysail would enhance the boat both from a performance as well as a safety standpoint, he actually drew me a drawing showing what he said was the only correct way to install a staysail but urged me not to do so.

I have written about this in these spaces before and perhaps someone could dig my staysail install instructions out of the archives. If not, I could do it once again if anyone is interested.

Most of the Amel staysail installs I have seen were done incorrectly and apply serious loads into components that were never designed for such loading, according to what Mr. Carteau showed and told me.

 

Have Fun With Your Amel, Joel    

 

       JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:20 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Staysail on a Super Maramu

 

Hi Amelians,

I have been speaking with Amel Martinique. They say they never delivered a Super Maramu with a Staysail.

I believe a number of you have had them installed when the boat was manufactured.

If you have a factory (LA Rochelle) installed please contact me.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376