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A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps

CW Bill Rouse
 

Two Things: More about the UP2-P and a New Source for Marco Pumps:

I believe that the UP2-P pump with PTFE gears (impellers), rated at 10 l/min at 24 volts, part number 16420213, is a good replacement for the Flojet 4105. I believe that the UP2-P 24 volt pump will output about 5 liter/min when connected to 12 volts and draw about 1.5 amps. To expand on Scott's statement about replacing brushes, Marco part number R6400080 (R-KIT motor cap ø52 mm) costs 24.93€ from www.Marco.it, or $28.56 from www.marco-pumps.com (more about this source below). This motor cap has the brushes installed. I believe that the best process is to simply replace this cap (photo below).The more adventurous could probably find and solder brushes to the existing cap.
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There is another source for Marco Pumps, shipping Marco pumps, worldwide from Vienna: www.marco-pumps.com  You will find almost all Marco pumps at this site (soon to be 100% of them), and a huge selection of Marco Pump Parts (Spares and Accessories). This source regularly ships to all of Europe AND is especially good for shipping to the USA, because they have a flat rate of $15 to ship to the US via USPS. They are now one of about 25 of the Preferred Vendors to Amel Yacht Owners School. The Preferred Vendor Discounts range from 5% to 20% on Amel OEM parts, equivatents, and services. 

I will share the Preferred Vendor Discount code for Yacht School clients with www.marco-pumps.com.  I have never done this before in this group. The Preferred Vender codes have always only been available to my clients, but I will make the exception this time. If you choose to order from www.marco-pumps.com, use code AMELSCHOOL to receive an additional 5%. Frankly, it appears that www.marco-pumps.com may be the best place to buy Marco Pump Parts (Spares and Accessories). They appear to stock a wider variety than www.Marco.it or the Marco US distributor www.mate-usa.com

DISCLAIMERS: 
I receive absolutely nothing when my clients order from Preferred Vendors. 
We do not have much history or experience with www.marco-pumps.com. At this point, I know of only one Amel owner who has ordered from them.


--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 8:54 PM Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:

Ok thanks Bill and Scott, that’s what I guessed 

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 11:45, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Exactly right. The keel (aka freshwater tank) is below the pump but I think the waterline is above it.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Scott SV Tengah
 

To expand on Bill's expansion :), replacing the rotor cap requires unbolting the old one and swapping out the new one.  I would get the seal kit, too. It's only 8 euro or so. Includes the shaft lip seal and a replacement bearing.

Every A54 seems to be different (!?!?) but to use the Marco on mine required me to buy hose barb adapters. I got these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Male-Thread-Pipe-Fitting-x-Barb-Hose-Tail-Connector-BSP-Stainless-Steel-ark/253006828611?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552054492119&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

I got the 3/8" BSP x 15mm barb. The BSP end is for the pump and the barb end is for my existing hoses. You will need 2 of these.

 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

Are those pumps a BSP thread or a NPT thread?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:16 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps

 

To expand on Bill's expansion :), replacing the rotor cap requires unbolting the old one and swapping out the new one.  I would get the seal kit, too. It's only 8 euro or so. Includes the shaft lip seal and a replacement bearing.

Every A54 seems to be different (!?!?) but to use the Marco on mine required me to buy hose barb adapters. I got these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Male-Thread-Pipe-Fitting-x-Barb-Hose-Tail-Connector-BSP-Stainless-Steel-ark/253006828611?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552054492119&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

I got the 3/8" BSP x 15mm barb. The BSP end is for the pump and the barb end is for my existing hoses. You will need 2 of these.

 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

CW Bill Rouse
 

Eric 

BSP 3/8" on the UP/2



--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:00 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Are those pumps a BSP thread or a NPT thread?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:16 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps

 

To expand on Bill's expansion :), replacing the rotor cap requires unbolting the old one and swapping out the new one.  I would get the seal kit, too. It's only 8 euro or so. Includes the shaft lip seal and a replacement bearing.

Every A54 seems to be different (!?!?) but to use the Marco on mine required me to buy hose barb adapters. I got these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Male-Thread-Pipe-Fitting-x-Barb-Hose-Tail-Connector-BSP-Stainless-Steel-ark/253006828611?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552054492119&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

I got the 3/8" BSP x 15mm barb. The BSP end is for the pump and the barb end is for my existing hoses. You will need 2 of these.

 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

Hi Bill,

Where are these pumps made?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 3:12 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps

 

Eric 

 

BSP 3/8" on the UP/2

 

 


--

CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

 

 

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:00 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Are those pumps a BSP thread or a NPT thread?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:16 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps

 

To expand on Bill's expansion :), replacing the rotor cap requires unbolting the old one and swapping out the new one.  I would get the seal kit, too. It's only 8 euro or so. Includes the shaft lip seal and a replacement bearing.

Every A54 seems to be different (!?!?) but to use the Marco on mine required me to buy hose barb adapters. I got these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Male-Thread-Pipe-Fitting-x-Barb-Hose-Tail-Connector-BSP-Stainless-Steel-ark/253006828611?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552054492119&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

I got the 3/8" BSP x 15mm barb. The BSP end is for the pump and the barb end is for my existing hoses. You will need 2 of these.

 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

CW Bill Rouse
 

Italy which happens to historically be the country of better marine pumps. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 5:13 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Where are these pumps made?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 3:12 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps

 

Eric 

 

BSP 3/8" on the UP/2

 

 


--

CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

 

 

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:00 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Are those pumps a BSP thread or a NPT thread?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:16 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps

 

To expand on Bill's expansion :), replacing the rotor cap requires unbolting the old one and swapping out the new one.  I would get the seal kit, too. It's only 8 euro or so. Includes the shaft lip seal and a replacement bearing.

Every A54 seems to be different (!?!?) but to use the Marco on mine required me to buy hose barb adapters. I got these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Male-Thread-Pipe-Fitting-x-Barb-Hose-Tail-Connector-BSP-Stainless-Steel-ark/253006828611?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552054492119&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

I got the 3/8" BSP x 15mm barb. The BSP end is for the pump and the barb end is for my existing hoses. You will need 2 of these.

 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

That’s odd that they use BSP and not NPT.

Thanks

Eric

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 6:59 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps

 

Italy which happens to historically be the country of better marine pumps. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 5:13 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Where are these pumps made?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 3:12 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps

 

Eric 

 

BSP 3/8" on the UP/2

 

 


--

CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

 

 

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:00 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Are those pumps a BSP thread or a NPT thread?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:16 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps

 

To expand on Bill's expansion :), replacing the rotor cap requires unbolting the old one and swapping out the new one.  I would get the seal kit, too. It's only 8 euro or so. Includes the shaft lip seal and a replacement bearing.

Every A54 seems to be different (!?!?) but to use the Marco on mine required me to buy hose barb adapters. I got these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Male-Thread-Pipe-Fitting-x-Barb-Hose-Tail-Connector-BSP-Stainless-Steel-ark/253006828611?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552054492119&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

I got the 3/8" BSP x 15mm barb. The BSP end is for the pump and the barb end is for my existing hoses. You will need 2 of these.

 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Alan Leslie
 

Eric,
Everywhere outside of North America uses BSP.
NPT is a US invention.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

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