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Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Richard,

I’ll get to it later today

Cheers

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007 Opua NZ



On 20 Jul 2021, at 02:58, Richard May via groups.io <airwisrich2000@...> wrote:



JP Germain
can you post a photo detail of how you lock the induction cooktop into your OC3?


I am about to install and OC and am very excited for it.  I did not want to take full dive into their induction OC because I have not upgraded my electrical sys.   Seems like more aHr would be a must. 
Bill Kinney
 

We recently installed a Force10 and are very happy with the upgrade from the original.

We found a special deal on the four burner model, but would have been just as happy with the three burner.  Our old stove had two burners, each “medium” in heat.  Sometimes too cool, sometimes too hot, rarely perfect. This has one really hot burner, and three smaller ones, a good mix for almost all the cooking I do.  We really like the thermostatically controlled oven, that does a great job at holding the set temperature.  And having the overhead broiler is a great asset.

As far as current production quality, it uses exactly the same parts and design as the one I installed 20 years ago, that is still going strong in that boat.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Brunswick, GA
Richard May
 

JP Germain
can you post a photo detail of how you lock the induction cooktop into your OC3?


I am about to install and OC and am very excited for it.  I did not want to take full dive into their induction OC because I have not upgraded my electrical sys.   Seems like more aHr would be a must. 
Germain Jean-Pierre
 

The Ocean Chef 3 fits superbly in an early SM and offers 3 burners instead of 2.

The old saw applies…. You get what you pay for! Buy one on the last day of a boat show; bet you’ll get a discount.

Good luck,

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007, NZ

On 27 Apr 2020, at 02:02, ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

On my last boat, before my Amel I bought a GN Espace…Fantastic cooker but as you say££££££. Worth it though.

Nick
S/Y Amelia AML 54-019 Ashore Kilada Greece

On 26 Apr 2020, at 09:13, Linda Melton <lindajmelton@...> wrote:

I reported this in the last post on this topic. Early on in our acquisition of our Amel we replaced the beautiful 19 year old ENO stove with a new ENO. We looked at the GN Espace which we were very attracted to bar the price. It is our biggest regret not spending the money on the GN!
We only live on the boat 6 months a year, but in 7 years have had to replace a number of items which have rusted or melted!
No disgrace to the stove, but ENO and others have a bigger market in the mass market of boat owners still at work who unfortunately can only use their boats at weekends and short holidays - probably dining ashore as it’s a holiday.
Our cooker is on the same level of need as our electricity charging system which is in constant use every day. Next time, lesson learnt, I will replace with a GN.
PS. Although I don’t do much of the cooking, I do get all of the cleaning and maintenance of the cooker!!

Good luck with your choice.

Ian and Linda.
Ocean Hobo SN96
Nick Newington
 

On my last boat, before my Amel I bought a GN Espace…Fantastic cooker but as you say££££££. Worth it though.

Nick
S/Y Amelia AML 54-019 Ashore Kilada Greece

On 26 Apr 2020, at 09:13, Linda Melton <lindajmelton@...> wrote:

I reported this in the last post on this topic. Early on in our acquisition of our Amel we replaced the beautiful 19 year old ENO stove with a new ENO. We looked at the GN Espace which we were very attracted to bar the price. It is our biggest regret not spending the money on the GN!
We only live on the boat 6 months a year, but in 7 years have had to replace a number of items which have rusted or melted!
No disgrace to the stove, but ENO and others have a bigger market in the mass market of boat owners still at work who unfortunately can only use their boats at weekends and short holidays - probably dining ashore as it’s a holiday.
Our cooker is on the same level of need as our electricity charging system which is in constant use every day. Next time, lesson learnt, I will replace with a GN.
PS. Although I don’t do much of the cooking, I do get all of the cleaning and maintenance of the cooker!!

Good luck with your choice.

Ian and Linda.
Ocean Hobo SN96
Linda Melton <lindajmelton@...>
 

I reported this in the last post on this topic. Early on in our acquisition of our Amel we replaced the beautiful 19 year old ENO stove with a new ENO. We looked at the GN Espace which we were very attracted to bar the price. It is our biggest regret not spending the money on the GN!
We only live on the boat 6 months a year, but in 7 years have had to replace a number of items which have rusted or melted!
No disgrace to the stove, but ENO and others have a bigger market in the mass market of boat owners still at work who unfortunately can only use their boats at weekends and short holidays - probably dining ashore as it’s a holiday.
Our cooker is on the same level of need as our electricity charging system which is in constant use every day. Next time, lesson learnt, I will replace with a GN.
PS. Although I don’t do much of the cooking, I do get all of the cleaning and maintenance of the cooker!!

Good luck with your choice.

Ian and Linda.
Ocean Hobo SN96
Dan Wilcox
 

Thank you all for the recommendations.  As usual, this group is a wealth of knowledge that I greatly appreciate.  Luckily all the models recommended are local here.  Force 10 is about $1,500 at one end, and the OceanChef about $4,000 at the other.  So now comes the hard decision of how much to invest.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend #86

On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 04:14:10 AM PDT, Peter Jaeger via groups.io <mallamok@...> wrote:


Hi Dan
Last year I repalced my 1989 Electrolux stove by a Force 10, 2 burner American Standard. I am very happy with this model. Very easy to install, same sice. 
Best
Peter Jäger
Wilson SM#003

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Am 24.04.2020 um 16:09 schrieb Dan Wilcox via groups.io <dwilcox123@...>:

It seems that upon close inspection, our 1991 Electrolux stove has finally given up.  I hear Force 10 has nice options.  Has anyone purchased one, and would you mind sharing the model?  

I do plan to swap over to a convection setup someday, but it will be a while until I switch over to Lithium and Solar.  We are only cruising in the Pacific Northwest for the next 10 years, so getting propane and having the extra heat in the cabin is not a problem.

Thanks, Dan Wilcox
Feierabend SM#86

Peter Jaeger
 

Hi Dan
Last year I repalced my 1989 Electrolux stove by a Force 10, 2 burner American Standard. I am very happy with this model. Very easy to install, same sice. 
Best
Peter Jäger
Wilson SM#003

(Sent from mobile device)

Am 24.04.2020 um 16:09 schrieb Dan Wilcox via groups.io <dwilcox123@...>:

It seems that upon close inspection, our 1991 Electrolux stove has finally given up.  I hear Force 10 has nice options.  Has anyone purchased one, and would you mind sharing the model?  

I do plan to swap over to a convection setup someday, but it will be a while until I switch over to Lithium and Solar.  We are only cruising in the Pacific Northwest for the next 10 years, so getting propane and having the extra heat in the cabin is not a problem.

Thanks, Dan Wilcox
Feierabend SM#86

CW Bill Rouse
 

I totally agree. Once you had GN Espace, I doubt if you will ever go back to anything else. GN Espace is a Yacht School Preferred Vendor.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 3:22 PM ULRICH DANGELMEYER <ulrich.dangelmeyer@...> wrote:
Hi All,

the company you are looking for is GN Espace

top of the range. They have their roots in super yachts equipment and professional gastronomy stuff, but meantimes also suppliers for premium boatyards like Amel, HR, Rustler and oyster.

We met these guys on Southampton boatshow, very friendly, customer oriented and helpful, no problem to create individual solutions, also for spec galley systems.
Will be our next choice if our ENO will go at anytime.
Force 10 formerly was an independent Canadian company, highly recommended but than „Involved" by ENO…now the same. sadly.

Best Regards to all and stay safe, wherever you are moored.

Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ /A54#88
locked down in Greece.
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Am 24.04.2020 um 20:04 schrieb Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>:

Just my 2¢, I think Force10 quality has gone downhill over the years.
 
There was a thread on this forum a little while ago about a company in the UK who makes really top notch stoves. Sorry, I do not recall the brand but they are impressive. Also, have you considered Dickison: http://dickinsonmarine.com/
 
Both companies ship globally.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Wilcox via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 4:09 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Galley Stove Replacement #galley #stove
 
It seems that upon close inspection, our 1991 Electrolux stove has finally given up.  I hear Force 10 has nice options.  Has anyone purchased one, and would you mind sharing the model?  

I do plan to swap over to a convection setup someday, but it will be a while until I switch over to Lithium and Solar.  We are only cruising in the Pacific Northwest for the next 10 years, so getting propane and having the extra heat in the cabin is not a problem.

Thanks, Dan Wilcox
Feierabend SM#86
Arno Luijten
 

GN Espace are very nice. However the price is eye-watering. About twice the price of Force 10. Also they use this (again expensive) system for putting things is in the oven that I did not really like.

I agree that Force 10 did not benefit from the ENO takeover. However they still have some distinct advantages over the standard ENO stuff. But the quality of finishing did suffer quite a bit. I replaced the Eno on our 54 with a 4 burner Froce 10. Although not nearly at the point of what you can get in domestic stuff for that price, it's working OK.
I still like the balanced oven door. It's their mayor selling point. When installing be careful as there can be some sharp edges on the back.
The 4 burner required some work on the cavity of the 54 as the total width of the stove is less then the Amel version of the ENO. However the effective cooking surface is virtually the same. Also the locking mechanism for the gimbal has been taken from the ENO line again not improving on quality.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi All,

the company you are looking for is GN Espace

top of the range. They have their roots in super yachts equipment and professional gastronomy stuff, but meantimes also suppliers for premium boatyards like Amel, HR, Rustler and oyster.

We met these guys on Southampton boatshow, very friendly, customer oriented and helpful, no problem to create individual solutions, also for spec galley systems.
Will be our next choice if our ENO will go at anytime.
Force 10 formerly was an independent Canadian company, highly recommended but than „Involved" by ENO…now the same. sadly.

Best Regards to all and stay safe, wherever you are moored.

Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ /A54#88
locked down in Greece.
<>
Am 24.04.2020 um 20:04 schrieb Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>:

Just my 2¢, I think Force10 quality has gone downhill over the years.
 
There was a thread on this forum a little while ago about a company in the UK who makes really top notch stoves. Sorry, I do not recall the brand but they are impressive. Also, have you considered Dickison: http://dickinsonmarine.com/
 
Both companies ship globally.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Wilcox via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 4:09 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Galley Stove Replacement #galley #stove
 
It seems that upon close inspection, our 1991 Electrolux stove has finally given up.  I hear Force 10 has nice options.  Has anyone purchased one, and would you mind sharing the model?  

I do plan to swap over to a convection setup someday, but it will be a while until I switch over to Lithium and Solar.  We are only cruising in the Pacific Northwest for the next 10 years, so getting propane and having the extra heat in the cabin is not a problem.

Thanks, Dan Wilcox
Feierabend SM#86
Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Dan and Mark,

When we refitted Eleuthera, SM007, we went for Ocean Chef 3.(OC3)  This is the cooker installed on Oysters.

Advantages:
- Fits well into the space vacated by the old unit, 
- 3 burner cook top instead of 2 in dearly departed old unit
- Good gimbal.
- Top grate locks in our Induction cookplate (Unold… inexpensive and a great unit) we rarely use the Ocean Chef propane cook top.

Disadvantages:
- OC3 markings/decals disappear very quickly if cleaned.
- Igniter unit failed quickly even with limited use.  We now use one of the long igniters to light the oven.
- We added a brushed SS deflector plate to dissipate the heat under the Microwave shelf.

Piccies available if needed. After 4 years, we are very satisfied.

The Induction add-on is awesome.  Would not be without it. UNOLD … Germany made

Good luck, 


Jean-Pierre Germain



On 25 Apr 2020, at 06:04, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Just my 2¢, I think Force10 quality has gone downhill over the years. 
 
There was a thread on this forum a little while ago about a company in the UK who makes really top notch stoves. Sorry, I do not recall the brand but they are impressive. Also, have you considered Dickison: http://dickinsonmarine.com/
 
Both companies ship globally. 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Wilcox via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 4:09 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Galley Stove Replacement #galley #stove
 
It seems that upon close inspection, our 1991 Electrolux stove has finally given up.  I hear Force 10 has nice options.  Has anyone purchased one, and would you mind sharing the model?  

I do plan to swap over to a convection setup someday, but it will be a while until I switch over to Lithium and Solar.  We are only cruising in the Pacific Northwest for the next 10 years, so getting propane and having the extra heat in the cabin is not a problem.

Thanks, Dan Wilcox
Feierabend SM#86 
Mark Erdos
 

Just my 2¢, I think Force10 quality has gone downhill over the years.

 

There was a thread on this forum a little while ago about a company in the UK who makes really top notch stoves. Sorry, I do not recall the brand but they are impressive. Also, have you considered Dickison: http://dickinsonmarine.com/

 

Both companies ship globally.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Wilcox via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 4:09 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Galley Stove Replacement #galley #stove

 

It seems that upon close inspection, our 1991 Electrolux stove has finally given up.  I hear Force 10 has nice options.  Has anyone purchased one, and would you mind sharing the model?  

I do plan to swap over to a convection setup someday, but it will be a while until I switch over to Lithium and Solar.  We are only cruising in the Pacific Northwest for the next 10 years, so getting propane and having the extra heat in the cabin is not a problem.

Thanks, Dan Wilcox
Feierabend SM#86

Dan Wilcox
 

It seems that upon close inspection, our 1991 Electrolux stove has finally given up.  I hear Force 10 has nice options.  Has anyone purchased one, and would you mind sharing the model?  

I do plan to swap over to a convection setup someday, but it will be a while until I switch over to Lithium and Solar.  We are only cruising in the Pacific Northwest for the next 10 years, so getting propane and having the extra heat in the cabin is not a problem.

Thanks, Dan Wilcox
Feierabend SM#86

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