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Heave-to


karkauai
 

We hove-to three times this Spring before crossing the Stream. Each time 35+kts from the N, 8-10 ft seas. She heaves-to like a dream, slipping directly downwind with the upwind slick preventing waves from breaking on the side of the boat. Only two small waves slapped us on the beam in a total of 180 hours hove-to. Able to sleep, cook, read. Then crossed the Stream in 10-15kts from the SE.

In 35+ kts I have a handkerchief of jib and about a third of the Mizzen out with the Mizzen traveler halfway up the windward side.  If you haven't experimented it's well worth your time to get a feel for it.

Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243

On Jun 17, 2020 9:48 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Just pulled into Huntington NY this morning. 8 days 22 hours from St Thomas.
Kimberlite's 70,000 mile anniversary.
The Gulf Stream was a pill. 30-45 knots easterly in the stream. When we fell off wave after wave I was so happy to own an Amel.
It sure makes one heck of a sound. Nothing broken, everyone on board is well.
Keep up the good work.
Fair Winds,
Eric

On June 11, 2020 at 5:54 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Jacob,

Eric is on passage from the Caribbean to New York.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 4:18 PM Jacob Champness < jacob.champness@...> wrote:
Eric, what did you end up doing, and how did it work out?


 


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Kent, that sounds like good seamanship.

Danny

SM 200

Ocean Pearl

On 19 June 2020 at 00:52 "karkauai via groups.io" <karkauai@...> wrote:

We hove-to three times this Spring before crossing the Stream. Each time 35+kts from the N, 8-10 ft seas. She heaves-to like a dream, slipping directly downwind with the upwind slick preventing waves from breaking on the side of the boat. Only two small waves slapped us on the beam in a total of 180 hours hove-to. Able to sleep, cook, read. Then crossed the Stream in 10-15kts from the SE.

In 35+ kts I have a handkerchief of jib and about a third of the Mizzen out with the Mizzen traveler halfway up the windward side.  If you haven't experimented it's well worth your time to get a feel for it.

Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243

On Jun 17, 2020 9:48 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Just pulled into Huntington NY this morning. 8 days 22 hours from St Thomas.
Kimberlite's 70,000 mile anniversary.
The Gulf Stream was a pill. 30-45 knots easterly in the stream. When we fell off wave after wave I was so happy to own an Amel.
It sure makes one heck of a sound. Nothing broken, everyone on board is well.
Keep up the good work.
Fair Winds,
Eric

On June 11, 2020 at 5:54 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Jacob,

Eric is on passage from the Caribbean to New York.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 4:18 PM Jacob Champness < jacob.champness@...> wrote:
Eric, what did you end up doing, and how did it work out?

 

 


 


VICTOR MOLERO
 

Hello Ken and Iris.
I am very interested in the heave to operation. I understand from your mail that you only used a bit of jib, a third of the mizzen and the main down. Is this correct?
Thank you in advance.
Victor 
SM #314 Alendoy


El jue., 18 jun. 2020 15:53, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> escribió:
We hove-to three times this Spring before crossing the Stream. Each time 35+kts from the N, 8-10 ft seas. She heaves-to like a dream, slipping directly downwind with the upwind slick preventing waves from breaking on the side of the boat. Only two small waves slapped us on the beam in a total of 180 hours hove-to. Able to sleep, cook, read. Then crossed the Stream in 10-15kts from the SE.

In 35+ kts I have a handkerchief of jib and about a third of the Mizzen out with the Mizzen traveler halfway up the windward side.  If you haven't experimented it's well worth your time to get a feel for it.

Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243

On Jun 17, 2020 9:48 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Just pulled into Huntington NY this morning. 8 days 22 hours from St Thomas.
Kimberlite's 70,000 mile anniversary.
The Gulf Stream was a pill. 30-45 knots easterly in the stream. When we fell off wave after wave I was so happy to own an Amel.
It sure makes one heck of a sound. Nothing broken, everyone on board is well.
Keep up the good work.
Fair Winds,
Eric

On June 11, 2020 at 5:54 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Jacob,

Eric is on passage from the Caribbean to New York.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 4:18 PM Jacob Champness < jacob.champness@...> wrote:
Eric, what did you end up doing, and how did it work out?


 


VICTOR MOLERO
 

Hello Ken and Iris.
I am very interested in the heave to operation. I understand from your mail that you only used a bit of jib, a third of the mizzen and the main down. Is this correct?
Thank you in advance.
Victor 
SM #314 Alendoy


karkauai
 

That's correct Victor. A bit less than we were sailing with before we hove to, because the winds were picking up.  Leave the jib sheeted in and tack without changing jib sheets (backwind the jib) then turn the helm hard upwind and tie it off there.  Then go aft and bring the Mizzen traveler up at least half way to windward. You may have to experiment with how much jib and Mizzen you have out, and how much the Mizzen traveler needs to be brought upwind.  I never could make Kristy slide directly downwind with theain out even a little...she always sailed forward out of the slick at 1-2 kts.
Kent
Kristy
SM 243

On Jun 18, 2020 4:01 PM, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:
Hello Ken and Iris.
I am very interested in the heave to operation. I understand from your mail that you only used a bit of jib, a third of the mizzen and the main down. Is this correct?
Thank you in advance.
Victor 
SM #314 Alendoy


VICTOR MOLERO
 

I really appreciate the explanation, Kent.
I think that this is a fundamental piece of knowledge that is seldom explained as clear.
Thanks again.
Victor
SM#314 Alendoy


Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Kent,

 

That is an excellent explanation, and one presumably specific to Amel ketches?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: 19 June 2020 00:33
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heave-to

 

That's correct Victor. A bit less than we were sailing with before we hove to, because the winds were picking up.  Leave the jib sheeted in and tack without changing jib sheets (backwind the jib) then turn the helm hard upwind and tie it off there.  Then go aft and bring the Mizzen traveler up at least half way to windward. You may have to experiment with how much jib and Mizzen you have out, and how much the Mizzen traveler needs to be brought upwind.  I never could make Kristy slide directly downwind with theain out even a little...she always sailed forward out of the slick at 1-2 kts.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243

 

On Jun 18, 2020 4:01 PM, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:

Hello Ken and Iris.

I am very interested in the heave to operation. I understand from your mail that you only used a bit of jib, a third of the mizzen and the main down. Is this correct?

Thank you in advance.

Victor 

SM #314 Alendoy

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


karkauai
 

Hi Paul,
Every boat is going to be a little different depending on load distribution (center of lateral resistance) and even sail shape (center if effort). That's what works on Kristy and should be a pretty good place to start with most Amel SuperMaramus. I haven't tried it on a SN or A54.

I generally start with the sails furled as if I were sailing in the maximum wind I expect.  I recommend trying it in 15-20 kts until you know how your boat will react so you don't have to make too many adjustments in big breaking seas. 

Where ever you start, if you are pointing too high, try adding a bit of jib or reducing the amount of Mizzen. If you are falling off, reduce jib and/or let more Mizzen out. Once you are between 80 & 90 deg off the wind, if you are still sailing out if the slick, bring the Mizzen traveler upwind some more and)or sheet the Genoa in a bit.  You'll probably have to fall off and jibe to make changes in very high winds, then heave-to again.

If you are sailing short-handed and just need some rest, or a hot meal, or need to wait for sunrise before entering an unknown harbor, this calms everything down dramatically. I don't like to bash tacking upwind in steep seas, just don't make enough headway to be worth the wear and tear, so if I expect the wind to shift in a day or two, I heave-to and sail again when it's not so hard on the boat and crew.

I haven't hove-to in anything bigger than 12-15' seas, but I think it should be a pretty good technique in up to 60kts)20ft seas. After that running with a warp or drogue may be a better approach.

Have fun with it, l bet you'll find that you use it more often than you anticipate.
Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM 243

On Jun 19, 2020 9:08 AM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Kent,

 

That is an excellent explanation, and one presumably specific to Amel ketches?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: 19 June 2020 00:33
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heave-to

 

That's correct Victor. A bit less than we were sailing with before we hove to, because the winds were picking up.  Leave the jib sheeted in and tack without changing jib sheets (backwind the jib) then turn the helm hard upwind and tie it off there.  Then go aft and bring the Mizzen traveler up at least half way to windward. You may have to experiment with how much jib and Mizzen you have out, and how much the Mizzen traveler needs to be brought upwind.  I never could make Kristy slide directly downwind with theain out even a little...she always sailed forward out of the slick at 1-2 kts.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243

 

On Jun 18, 2020 4:01 PM, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:

Hello Ken and Iris.

I am very interested in the heave to operation. I understand from your mail that you only used a bit of jib, a third of the mizzen and the main down. Is this correct?

Thank you in advance.

Victor 

SM #314 Alendoy

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Kent, again a good description of wise seamanship. 

Thanks

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 20 June 2020 at 04:45 "karkauai via groups.io" <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi Paul,
Every boat is going to be a little different depending on load distribution (center of lateral resistance) and even sail shape (center if effort). That's what works on Kristy and should be a pretty good place to start with most Amel SuperMaramus. I haven't tried it on a SN or A54.

I generally start with the sails furled as if I were sailing in the maximum wind I expect.   I recommend trying it in 15-20 kts until you know how your boat will react so you don't have to make too many adjustments in big breaking seas. 

Where ever you start, if you are pointing too high, try adding a bit of jib or reducing the amount of Mizzen. If you are falling off, reduce jib and/or let more Mizzen out. Once you are between 80 & 90 deg off the wind, if you are still sailing out if the slick, bring the Mizzen traveler upwind some more and)or sheet the Genoa in a bit.  You'll probably have to fall off and jibe to make changes in very high winds, then heave-to again.

If you are sailing short-handed and just need some rest, or a hot meal, or need to wait for sunrise before entering an unknown harbor, this calms everything down dramatically. I don't like to bash tacking upwind in steep seas, just don't make enough headway to be worth the wear and tear, so if I expect the wind to shift in a day or two, I heave-to and sail again when it's not so hard on the boat and crew.

I haven't hove-to in anything bigger than 12-15' seas, but I think it should be a pretty good technique in up to 60kts)20ft seas. After that running with a warp or drogue may be a better approach.

Have fun with it, l bet you'll find that you use it more often than you anticipate.
Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM 243

On Jun 19, 2020 9:08 AM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Kent,

 

That is an excellent explanation, and one presumably specific to Amel ketches?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: 19 June 2020 00:33
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heave-to

 

That's correct Victor. A bit less than we were sailing with before we hove to, because the winds were picking up.  Leave the jib sheeted in and tack without changing jib sheets (backwind the jib) then turn the helm hard upwind and tie it off there.  Then go aft and bring the Mizzen traveler up at least half way to windward. You may have to experiment with how much jib and Mizzen you have out, and how much the Mizzen traveler needs to be brought upwind.  I never could make Kristy slide directly downwind with theain out even a little...she always sailed forward out of the slick at 1-2 kts.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243

 

On Jun 18, 2020 4:01 PM, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:

Hello Ken and Iris.

I am very interested in the heave to operation. I understand from your mail that you only used a bit of jib, a third of the mizzen and the main down. Is this correct?

Thank you in advance.

Victor 

SM #314 Alendoy

 

 



--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Mark Erdos
 

Kent and Iris,

 

Great info!

I would add, using chafing protection is a must. I have a length of fire-hose that I made three ply. I cut it lengthwise so I can position the hose over the forward main halyard to protect the jib sheet from chafing on the wire.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 6:46 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heave-to

 

Hi Paul,

Every boat is going to be a little different depending on load distribution (center of lateral resistance) and even sail shape (center if effort). That's what works on Kristy and should be a pretty good place to start with most Amel SuperMaramus. I haven't tried it on a SN or A54.

 

I generally start with the sails furled as if I were sailing in the maximum wind I expect.  I recommend trying it in 15-20 kts until you know how your boat will react so you don't have to make too many adjustments in big breaking seas. 

 

Where ever you start, if you are pointing too high, try adding a bit of jib or reducing the amount of Mizzen. If you are falling off, reduce jib and/or let more Mizzen out. Once you are between 80 & 90 deg off the wind, if you are still sailing out if the slick, bring the Mizzen traveler upwind some more and)or sheet the Genoa in a bit.  You'll probably have to fall off and jibe to make changes in very high winds, then heave-to again.

 

If you are sailing short-handed and just need some rest, or a hot meal, or need to wait for sunrise before entering an unknown harbor, this calms everything down dramatically. I don't like to bash tacking upwind in steep seas, just don't make enough headway to be worth the wear and tear, so if I expect the wind to shift in a day or two, I heave-to and sail again when it's not so hard on the boat and crew.

 

I haven't hove-to in anything bigger than 12-15' seas, but I think it should be a pretty good technique in up to 60kts)20ft seas. After that running with a warp or drogue may be a better approach.

 

Have fun with it, l bet you'll find that you use it more often than you anticipate.

Kent and Iris

Kristy

SM 243

 

On Jun 19, 2020 9:08 AM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Kent,

 

That is an excellent explanation, and one presumably specific to Amel ketches?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: 19 June 2020 00:33
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heave-to

 

That's correct Victor. A bit less than we were sailing with before we hove to, because the winds were picking up.  Leave the jib sheeted in and tack without changing jib sheets (backwind the jib) then turn the helm hard upwind and tie it off there.  Then go aft and bring the Mizzen traveler up at least half way to windward. You may have to experiment with how much jib and Mizzen you have out, and how much the Mizzen traveler needs to be brought upwind.  I never could make Kristy slide directly downwind with theain out even a little...she always sailed forward out of the slick at 1-2 kts.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243

 

On Jun 18, 2020 4:01 PM, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:

Hello Ken and Iris.

I am very interested in the heave to operation. I understand from your mail that you only used a bit of jib, a third of the mizzen and the main down. Is this correct?

Thank you in advance.

Victor 

SM #314 Alendoy

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


Craig Briggs
 

Hi Mark,
Not sure I understand positioning the chafe protection over the "forward main halyard". Did you maybe mean the "forward lower shroud"?
Cheers


Mark Erdos
 

Yes. Sorry – not sure where my mind went - again

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 4:35 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heave-to

 

Hi Mark,
Not sure I understand positioning the chafe protection over the "forward main halyard". Did you maybe mean the "forward lower shroud"?
Cheers


Porter McRoberts
 

Great discussion. Thank you!
Kent and Iris, where do you carry your dinghy?  Forward?  Our 9.5 foot is upside down on the aft cabin roof, the poop deck. There’s a good bit of windage. I’d imagine we’d use less mizzen then. How does the dinghy affect things?
In our 20k miles I’ve never gotten our boat to slide backwards when hove to. We always forreach a bit. I’d love to get that slick out front.  Thanks for the great discussion. 

Porter
IBIS A54-152. 


On Jun 19, 2020, at 10:34 PM, Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL via groups.io <sangaris@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,
Not sure I understand positioning the chafe protection over the "forward main halyard". Did you maybe mean the "forward lower shroud"?
Cheers


karkauai
 

Good advice, Mark,
I forgot Todo that and have to replace that sheet now.
Kent

On Jun 19, 2020 6:58 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Kent and Iris,

 

Great info!

I would add, using chafing protection is a must. I have a length of fire-hose that I made three ply. I cut it lengthwise so I can position the hose over the forward main halyard to protect the jib sheet from chafing on the wire.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 6:46 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heave-to

 

Hi Paul,

Every boat is going to be a little different depending on load distribution (center of lateral resistance) and even sail shape (center if effort). That's what works on Kristy and should be a pretty good place to start with most Amel SuperMaramus. I haven't tried it on a SN or A54.

 

I generally start with the sails furled as if I were sailing in the maximum wind I expect.  I recommend trying it in 15-20 kts until you know how your boat will react so you don't have to make too many adjustments in big breaking seas. 

 

Where ever you start, if you are pointing too high, try adding a bit of jib or reducing the amount of Mizzen. If you are falling off, reduce jib and/or let more Mizzen out. Once you are between 80 & 90 deg off the wind, if you are still sailing out if the slick, bring the Mizzen traveler upwind some more and)or sheet the Genoa in a bit.  You'll probably have to fall off and jibe to make changes in very high winds, then heave-to again.

 

If you are sailing short-handed and just need some rest, or a hot meal, or need to wait for sunrise before entering an unknown harbor, this calms everything down dramatically. I don't like to bash tacking upwind in steep seas, just don't make enough headway to be worth the wear and tear, so if I expect the wind to shift in a day or two, I heave-to and sail again when it's not so hard on the boat and crew.

 

I haven't hove-to in anything bigger than 12-15' seas, but I think it should be a pretty good technique in up to 60kts)20ft seas. After that running with a warp or drogue may be a better approach.

 

Have fun with it, l bet you'll find that you use it more often than you anticipate.

Kent and Iris

Kristy

SM 243

 

On Jun 19, 2020 9:08 AM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Kent,

 

That is an excellent explanation, and one presumably specific to Amel ketches?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: 19 June 2020 00:33
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heave-to

 

That's correct Victor. A bit less than we were sailing with before we hove to, because the winds were picking up.  Leave the jib sheeted in and tack without changing jib sheets (backwind the jib) then turn the helm hard upwind and tie it off there.  Then go aft and bring the Mizzen traveler up at least half way to windward. You may have to experiment with how much jib and Mizzen you have out, and how much the Mizzen traveler needs to be brought upwind.  I never could make Kristy slide directly downwind with theain out even a little...she always sailed forward out of the slick at 1-2 kts.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243

 

On Jun 18, 2020 4:01 PM, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:

Hello Ken and Iris.

I am very interested in the heave to operation. I understand from your mail that you only used a bit of jib, a third of the mizzen and the main down. Is this correct?

Thank you in advance.

Victor 

SM #314 Alendoy

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 



Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi, I undid the front lower shroud and threaded on a length of 20mm pvc water pipe on each side It is there permanently.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 21 June 2020 at 13:21 "karkauai via groups.io" <karkauai@...> wrote:

Good advice, Mark,
I forgot Todo that and have to replace that sheet now.
Kent

On Jun 19, 2020 6:58 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Kent and Iris,

 

Great info!

I would add, using chafing protection is a must. I have a length of fire-hose that I made three ply. I cut it lengthwise so I can position the hose over the forward main halyard to protect the jib sheet from chafing on the wire.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 6:46 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heave-to

 

Hi Paul,

Every boat is going to be a little different depending on load distribution (center of lateral resistance) and even sail shape (center if effort). That's what works on Kristy and should be a pretty good place to start with most Amel SuperMaramus. I haven't tried it on a SN or A54.

 

I generally start with the sails furled as if I were sailing in the maximum wind I expect.  I recommend trying it in 15-20 kts until you know how your boat will react so you don't have to make too many adjustments in big breaking seas. 

 

Where ever you start, if you are pointing too high, try adding a bit of jib or reducing the amount of Mizzen. If you are falling off, reduce jib and/or let more Mizzen out. Once you are between 80 & 90 deg off the wind, if you are still sailing out if the slick, bring the Mizzen traveler upwind some more and)or sheet the Genoa in a bit.  You'll probably have to fall off and jibe to make changes in very high winds, then heave-to again.

 

If you are sailing short-handed and just need some rest, or a hot meal, or need to wait for sunrise before entering an unknown harbor, this calms everything down dramatically. I don't like to bash tacking upwind in steep seas, just don't make enough headway to be worth the wear and tear, so if I expect the wind to shift in a day or two, I heave-to and sail again when it's not so hard on the boat and crew.

 

I haven't hove-to in anything bigger than 12-15' seas, but I think it should be a pretty good technique in up to 60kts)20ft seas. After that running with a warp or drogue may be a better approach.

 

Have fun with it, l bet you'll find that you use it more often than you anticipate.

Kent and Iris

Kristy

SM 243

 

On Jun 19, 2020 9:08 AM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Kent,

 

That is an excellent explanation, and one presumably specific to Amel ketches?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: 19 June 2020 00:33
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heave-to

 

That's correct Victor. A bit less than we were sailing with before we hove to, because the winds were picking up.  Leave the jib sheeted in and tack without changing jib sheets (backwind the jib) then turn the helm hard upwind and tie it off there.  Then go aft and bring the Mizzen traveler up at least half way to windward. You may have to experiment with how much jib and Mizzen you have out, and how much the Mizzen traveler needs to be brought upwind.  I never could make Kristy slide directly downwind with theain out even a little...she always sailed forward out of the slick at 1-2 kts.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243

 

On Jun 18, 2020 4:01 PM, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:

Hello Ken and Iris.

I am very interested in the heave to operation. I understand from your mail that you only used a bit of jib, a third of the mizzen and the main down. Is this correct?

Thank you in advance.

Victor 

SM #314 Alendoy

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

 




Alan Leslie
 

I have had pvc pipe on the forward and main shrouds of every boat I've had.
Chafe is one of your worst enemies.

We have hove-to on Elyse on a number of occasions. Most major between NZ and the Australs heading for Tahiti, a depreesion moved at high speed south from Fiji and we were caught in huge seas and 60+ knots. Elyse has a staysail on an inner forestay, which we were using at the time. We furled the main (genoa was already furled), tacked and hove to with the staysail and backed mizzen (known as jib and jigger), adjusted the wheel to keep her just forereaching and went below. She stayed like that all night, we had showers, hot food and SLEEP. In the morning the seas had died down a little, wind was down to 40 knots. We undid the wheel, got back on course and carried on.

Everyone should know how to make their boat heave-to.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437