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crappy job ahead of me....... santorin waste pipe


Eric Meury
 

well i have some crappy news...turns out my holding tank pipe is leaking. It is not the hose clamps. What are my options here...this is a santorin. Removal of the wall is pretty straight fwd i believe.


Mike Ondra
 

Hi Eric,

We have been wrestling with holding tank issues for years, latest these past few months. There are numerous posts (maybe 300) on these issues on the bulletin board going back over the past 15 years. Some of which may be relevant to you. Take the time to understand the holding tank configuration you have and evolve you plan of attack after reading the relevant postings. This is a repair you would prefer to make once and be permanent. Your hull number would be useful to others who may offer advice.

I would suggest removing the deck plate and taking a look inside your tank to understand its internal condition before doing anything. I did this at night and hung a light inside so I could see well and took some pictures.

Mike Ondra

ALETES SM#240, Rock Hall, MD

 

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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] crappy job ahead of me....... santorin waste pipe

 

well i have some crappy news...turns out my holding tank pipe is leaking. It is not the hose clamps. What are my options here..this is a santorin. Removal of the wall is pretty straight fwd i believe.


Craig Briggs
 
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Hi Eric,
I don't believe Amel put holding tanks in SN's so, like ours, yours was likely done by a prior owner. (Just the forward was done when we got our boat - I later did a 2nd tank in the aft head.) From your question it sounds like your tank is behind the outboard panel with the openings for the storage shelf. If so, removal of the wall would depend on how whoever installed the tank did it in the first place.

On mine, it requires removal of the sink wood crossmembers for the towel rack, the medicine cabinet, plus some perimeter trim, then reaching inside the cubby openingings to remove a few screws. Not too difficult. The tank simply sits on one of the original shelves and the plumbing is readily accessible once the panel is off.  I redid mine with PVC which I'd highly recommend for a multi-decade no-odor fix. 

That being said, I recall several posts of other SN owners installing tanks in various other positions, like under the towel bars.  What's the configuration on your SN?

Craig
PS I forgot to mention the original panel was fiberglassed to the shelves, so that has to be cut open the first time the panel is removed. Upon replacing, use wood blocks and screws to fasten it. A FINE Multi-tool or equivalent will cut the fiberglass tabbing nicely.


david bruce
 

Hi Eric, 

 Sounds like you have a perfectly good system that just needs repair, so I’m not advocating this for you but just thought I would take this opportunity to share my experiences with a composting toilet. I do think Craig is right, in that our Santorin had no stock holding tanks. There is a small tank for the aft head located in the life raft locker and no tank forward in the forward head.  

 After converting a typically troublesome and odorous holding tank system on my Newport 41 a few years ago to a composting toilet and finding it works remarkably well and is infinitely preferable to a standard tank, I lugged an Airhead composting toilet to Greece last summer to install on Liesse.  I didn’t get around to it so it’s sitting in the lazarette at the moment waiting to be installed in the forward head but if not for a lack of headroom it could actually be used back there!   I have found the composting toilet to be odor free, easy to clean and maintain, and my only criticism is that when heeling it is difficult to keep urine from running around the little dam into the solids container.  It’s amazingly comforting to know the you will ALWAYS have a functional head!  We’re heading to Turkey when it’s possible and not sure how they will view the composting toilet in their blue card scheme...  Good luck w the repair.  

Dave Bruce
Liesse SN006


On Jul 3, 2020, at 4:12 AM, Eric Meury <ericmeury@...> wrote:

well i have some crappy news...turns out my holding tank pipe is leaking. It is not the hose clamps. What are my options here...this is a santorin. Removal of the wall is pretty straight fwd i believe.