Anchor chain counter
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Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Thanks Scott, good info. I’m amazed at all the positive feedback I’ve been getting on this comparatively trivial issue!
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: 01 September 2020 22:45 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter
We just had this problem. It was a rusted magnet. -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Jamie Wendell
I had a similar problem, wherein the chain counter would count on its own, regardless of the anchor position. I had Alban in Martinique look at it and he cleaned the magnet. It worked for awhile and then quit completely. I am convinced it is the sensor that fails - not the magnet.
My approach was to replace the Lewmar A500 unit with the newer A560. It comes with a new sensor/magnet combination and uses a different technology. It requires 3 wires vs. the 2-wire system installed with the original Lewmar A500 on my A54. Fortunately, Amel was wise and they ran a 3-wire cable from the cockpit to the windlass. Getting the old sensor and magnet out of the windlass was the biggest issue, but I was able to do that and hook up the new sensor using the previously unused wire. The new display is a big improvement and actually self-calibrates. It was a lot more expensive ($500 USD) than simply replacing the sensor/magnet ($90 USD), but it really works and has proven very reliable. Keeping the buildup residue on the magnet is still important though. I am a happy camper now when I use the windlass - no more counting in my head as I deploy. Jamie Wendell Phantom, A54 #44
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Scott SV Tengah
We just had this problem. It was a rusted magnet.
It's very easy to open up the windlass and see the magnet on the gypsy. On A54 #69, we have two windlasses, so I just took the gypsy from the port windlass and put it on starboard. There's no counter on port anyways and we barely use it, so the gypsy looked nearly new. By doing that, you could probably get quite a few more years of life and it will isolate whether the problem is the magnet or the sensor. If you look at the AutoAnchor manual, it shows you how to get into diagnostic mode to determine whether the sensors are getting power. That may help you figure out what's wrong. I suppose there could be wiring issues, but for us, it was easily remedied by swapping gypsies and hence, magnets. Good time to grease up the windlass, too. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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The magnet gets rusty. You may test the system , take off the gipsy and hold/turn a magnet above the reed relay and observe the counter Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162
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Having had an intermittently working chain counter for the past two years (it could not record properly the chain going down, but was OK on the chain going up), I share my two cents which worked in my case: I dismounted and opened the unit in the cockpit and sprayed it with « WD40 contact ». It worked like a charm since then. The same recipe worked on our Hydra 2000, which was acting and stopped working at times; I spread the contacts and all the electronic boards and all went back to 100%. Again, sure it doesn’t apply in all cases, but it worked in ours!
Guillaume Carpathia III, SM2K #293
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Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Hi Oliver,
Thanks for that. Any idea where I can get one? I’ve contacted a couple of dealers but no reply so far.
The other thing is that I don’t actually know what the problem is other than that it stopped working. I just assume the sensor because, like you say, it is the most exposed component. It also was intermittent for a while before stopping completely. Wolfgang from Elise suggested it might be the magnet so I probably should get one of those too.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
Sent: 01 September 2020 07:17 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter
Hi Paul, It is a simple reed contact, example Meeder. Costs like 99 cents. Better order some spare, as the windlass is quite exposed to saltwater. When connected to the wire, dip it in sikkaflex or epoxy.
Oliver from Vela Nautica A54#39 Martinique
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 05:19 Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Thanks, I never thought about that. But how can a magnet “break”?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Wolfgang Weber via groups.io
Sent: 31 August 2020 21:14 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter
Mostly you need a new magnet in the gipsy to count the length on the counter Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 /162
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
No worries, I’m on the right track with this now. Thanks all the same.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Sent: 01 September 2020 00:21 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter
Ah....54...no sorry -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
Hi Paul, It is a simple reed contact, example Meeder. Costs like 99 cents. Better order some spare, as the windlass is quite exposed to saltwater. When connected to the wire, dip it in sikkaflex or epoxy. Oliver from Vela Nautica A54#39 Martinique
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 05:19 Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:
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Thomas Peacock
Yes, the 54 and SM are different in terms of chain counters. I’m pretty sure the SM “button” on the windlass is not magnetic, the proximity sensor only requires a metal counter.
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-- Tom Peacock SM 240 Aletes Chesapeake Bay
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Ah....54...no sorry
I jumped the gun a bit there....you have a different windlass system to us. I should be more careful, I only know about SMs Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Mostly you need a new magnet in the gipsy to count the length on the counter Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 /162
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Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Many thanks Attika.
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roque
Sent: 31 August 2020 14:50 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter
Paul
If you have the Lewmar chain counter maybe the attached Manual will help.
I think it is quite different from the SM
Chain Corrente counterManual-…
Roque Attika A54 -117 Paraty Brasil
Em seg, 31 de ago de 2020 às 09:25, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> escreveu:
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Roque
Paul If you have the Lewmar chain counter maybe the attached Manual will help. I think it is quite different from the SM  Roque Attika A54 -117 Paraty Brasil Em seg, 31 de ago de 2020 às 09:25, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> escreveu:
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amelforme
Hello Paul. The Amel 54 uses a vertical capstan Lewmar windlass with an integral chain counter as part of the system. It is entirely different than the Pouchon supplied counter on the Lofrans horizontal capstan windlass on the Super Maramu 53
All the best, Joel
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 8:26 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter
Many thanks again Rink for this useful advice. I will follow it when I return to the boat.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rink De Haan
Hi Paul,
I have an Amel53 with a Lofrans Tigres windlass. Don’t know if you have the same. On the Tigres the sensor is in the black tube housing attached to the Tigres (by Amel). You need to remove the cover (2 bolts) and then you can unscrew the tube housing and remove the old sensor. The new sensor will come with a long cable which you need to shorten. Disconnect the old ones and re-connect the new ones. Align the new sensor the same way as the old one was placed. I fixed the new sensor with some sika and two pieces of plastic form a tie wrap.
Again, this is on my 2001 SM2K with a Lofrans Tigres (which I btw upgraded with a new motor which is 1500W).
Best regards, Rink
Van: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> namens Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Rink,
Many thanks. Whereabouts exactly is the unit located? Do I need to open the windlass?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rink De Haan
Hi Paul,
There are different numbers showing up at the Forum. You can find the documents at the suppliers website https://www.ifm.com/gb/en/product/IB5072 I ordered the IB5072 (EUR 79) and installed it this summer. Installation is very simple and it worked straight away. Fixed the sensor with 2 tie wrap pieces inserted.
Best regards,
Rink SY Razor’s Edge SM2k #330 Greece
Van: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> namens Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Hi all,
I believe I need to get a replacement anchor chain counter sensor. I’m away from the boat and cannot find anything on the Lewmar online store so I would much appreciate if someone could advise the part number. IFM5072 turned up in this forum but I can’t find anything online in English relating to it.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
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Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Many thanks again Rink for this useful advice. I will follow it when I return to the boat.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rink De Haan
Sent: 31 August 2020 14:06 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter
Hi Paul,
I have an Amel53 with a Lofrans Tigres windlass. Don’t know if you have the same. On the Tigres the sensor is in the black tube housing attached to the Tigres (by Amel). You need to remove the cover (2 bolts) and then you can unscrew the tube housing and remove the old sensor. The new sensor will come with a long cable which you need to shorten. Disconnect the old ones and re-connect the new ones. Align the new sensor the same way as the old one was placed. I fixed the new sensor with some sika and two pieces of plastic form a tie wrap.
Again, this is on my 2001 SM2K with a Lofrans Tigres (which I btw upgraded with a new motor which is 1500W).
Best regards, Rink
Van: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> namens Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Rink,
Many thanks. Whereabouts exactly is the unit located? Do I need to open the windlass?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rink De Haan
Hi Paul,
There are different numbers showing up at the Forum. You can find the documents at the suppliers website https://www.ifm.com/gb/en/product/IB5072 I ordered the IB5072 (EUR 79) and installed it this summer. Installation is very simple and it worked straight away. Fixed the sensor with 2 tie wrap pieces inserted.
Best regards,
Rink SY Razor’s Edge SM2k #330 Greece
Van: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> namens Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Hi all,
I believe I need to get a replacement anchor chain counter sensor. I’m away from the boat and cannot find anything on the Lewmar online store so I would much appreciate if someone could advise the part number. IFM5072 turned up in this forum but I can’t find anything online in English relating to it.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Rink De Haan
Hi Paul,
I have an Amel53 with a Lofrans Tigres windlass. Don’t know if you have the same. On the Tigres the sensor is in the black tube housing attached to the Tigres (by Amel). You need to remove the cover (2 bolts) and then you can unscrew the tube housing and remove the old sensor. The new sensor will come with a long cable which you need to shorten. Disconnect the old ones and re-connect the new ones. Align the new sensor the same way as the old one was placed. I fixed the new sensor with some sika and two pieces of plastic form a tie wrap.
Again, this is on my 2001 SM2K with a Lofrans Tigres (which I btw upgraded with a new motor which is 1500W).
Best regards, Rink
Van: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> namens Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Rink,
Many thanks. Whereabouts exactly is the unit located? Do I need to open the windlass?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Rink De Haan
Sent: 31 August 2020 13:36 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter
Hi Paul,
There are different numbers showing up at the Forum. You can find the documents at the suppliers website https://www.ifm.com/gb/en/product/IB5072 I ordered the IB5072 (EUR 79) and installed it this summer. Installation is very simple and it worked straight away. Fixed the sensor with 2 tie wrap pieces inserted.
Best regards,
Rink SY Razor’s Edge SM2k #330 Greece
Van: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
namens Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Hi all,
I believe I need to get a replacement anchor chain counter sensor. I’m away from the boat and cannot find anything on the Lewmar online store so I would much appreciate if someone could advise the part number. IFM5072 turned up in this forum but I can’t find anything online in English relating to it.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
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Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Rink,
Many thanks. Whereabouts exactly is the unit located? Do I need to open the windlass?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rink De Haan
Sent: 31 August 2020 13:36 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter
Hi Paul,
There are different numbers showing up at the Forum. You can find the documents at the suppliers website https://www.ifm.com/gb/en/product/IB5072 I ordered the IB5072 (EUR 79) and installed it this summer. Installation is very simple and it worked straight away. Fixed the sensor with 2 tie wrap pieces inserted.
Best regards,
Rink SY Razor’s Edge SM2k #330 Greece
Van: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> namens Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Hi all,
I believe I need to get a replacement anchor chain counter sensor. I’m away from the boat and cannot find anything on the Lewmar online store so I would much appreciate if someone could advise the part number. IFM5072 turned up in this forum but I can’t find anything online in English relating to it.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Alan,
Many thanks. Are you able to confirm that the same one is used on the 54?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Sent: 31 August 2020 11:56 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter
Paul, -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Rink De Haan
Hi Paul,
There are different numbers showing up at the Forum. You can find the documents at the suppliers website https://www.ifm.com/gb/en/product/IB5072 I ordered the IB5072 (EUR 79) and installed it this summer. Installation is very simple and it worked straight away. Fixed the sensor with 2 tie wrap pieces inserted.
Best regards,
Rink SY Razor’s Edge SM2k #330 Greece
Van: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> namens Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Hi all,
I believe I need to get a replacement anchor chain counter sensor. I’m away from the boat and cannot find anything on the Lewmar online store so I would much appreciate if someone could advise the part number. IFM5072 turned up in this forum but I can’t find anything online in English relating to it.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
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