SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
Stefan Schaufert
Dear Amelians,
I want to change all seals etc. for the main and mizzen manual rolling gear. I was in contact with Maud. She sends me a good picture, but cannot send me a list of measurements etc. and a set of seals etc. (at least not at the moment). The forum helped me more (posts and references from Pat SM 123, Scott, Ken ...) but I'm completely stuck now.
Not sure about the dimensions or type of the seals, I haven't found a good source.
So I hope that someone has a list with the proven number, dimension, etc. of all the seals required, etc.,
as well as a good source in Europe, ideally in Germany (preferably all parts together).
Thanks a lot you for your help.
Best regards
Stefan
A54 # 119 Lady Charlyette, currently La Palma - Canary Islands
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I got these from Pat & Diane Shenanagins This is what I have for the Mizzen Parts Required/Sources (USA) Bearings: Source, Motion Industries - 1 each Tapered bearing item#32009xm-90kmi, bore 45mm OD 75mm Width 20mm Mfg: Timken 1 each: item# 9105k Bore 25mm, OD. 47mm, Width 12mm Mfg: Fafnir Seals: 1 each VA-45 (or VA-045) V-ring Seal: 40mm ID x 50mm OD x 9mm SKF Part # 400450 1 each following: Source, Metric Seals 45mmX60mmX7mm Seal <Or, Possibly next> 45mmX58mmX7mm Seal 25mmX33mm X6mm Seal 30mmx40mmx7mm Outer Hub Seal VA-45 V-ring Seal Manual Furling Gearbox, Mizzen (Main Similiar) Credit: Pat SM 123 Shenanigans Last modified 2021-08-22 Copyright Amel Owners Yacht School 2021 Page This is what I have for the Main : Bearings: Source , Motion Industries - Tapered bearing item# 32009xm-90kmi , Bore 45mm, OD. 75mm, Width 20mm , Manufacturer Timken Ball Bearing, item# 9105k Bore 25mm, OD. 47mm, Width 12mm Manufacturer Fafnir Oil Seals : Source , Metric Seals Inc. 45mmX60mmX7mm 25mmX33mm X6mm You will need one each of bearings and seals
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 1:54 PM Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Stefan. I have just completed a service of the main furler gearbox. Seals are available from SKF. As you would expect the list Maud has sent you shows the correct dimensions. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 25 September 2021 at 06:54 Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:
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Vladan SV PAME
Hi Stefan,
I bought set of seals for main sail manual furler in March this year from Amel.
After replacing them all on main sail furler I remained with one seal that I don’t know what is for.
In attached photo you have all dimensions. Seal number 5 was extra in my case.
If you need better photo or scan of document that came with seals let me know and I’ll send it to you.
Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 #157
-- Vladan A54 #157 SV PAME
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Vladan. Having just serviced my main sail furler I suspect from your photo this mounts externally on the output shaft sitting down on the top of the housing. One caviat on that opinion is I was looking at the photo on the small screen of my phone Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 27 September 2021 at 19:16 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
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Vladan SV PAME
Hi Danny,
I think you are referring to anti dust seal. That one I used and installed.
If I was not precise in my post, In Amel kit was supplied two number 5 seals and I used only one of them.
Don’t know how many seals are in mizen furler? Maybe that one goes there?
Best Regards,
Vladan – SV Pame A54 #157
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 09:35 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
Hi Vladan. Having just serviced my main sail furler I suspect from your photo this mounts externally on the output shaft sitting down on the top of the housing. One caviat on that opinion is I was looking at the photo on the small screen of my phone Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
-- Vladan A54 #157 SV PAME
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Vladan, The photo is too blurry for me to read. Is it possible that #5 is the V-Seal?
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Vladan SV PAME
Hi Bill,
Number 5 is not V seal. V seal was supplied only one piece and I used it.
Attached more photos.
Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 # 157
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 5:48:18 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
Vladan,
The photo is too blurry for me to read. Is it possible that #5 is the V-Seal?
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:16 AM Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
-- Vladan A54 #157 SV PAME
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Vladan, sorry I dont. Havent been there yet. Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi again Vladan. What is the size, You can read it off the seal. For example the one for the top of the gearbox is 60x45x7 if my memory serves me correctly. Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 28 September 2021 at 06:36 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
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Maybe that is the top seal of the motor, but I cannot tell the size. If the seal size is 45mmX65mmX8mm, it is for the top of the motor.
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Stefan Schaufert
Thank you Bill and Danny.
That helps. Dear Vladan, thx a lot. Unfortunately the photo is not readable (list of seals). Thus I appreciate a better resolution. Thanks for that. I found 2 good sources of supply (in Germany/ for Europe): https://www.kugellager-express.de/va-und-wellendichtringe (v-rings, oil seals)
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Vladan SV PAME
Hi Stefan,
I’m attaching again photo. Highlighted green are description and dimensions. however here they are: 1. Joint V-ring VA45 2. Joint OR Fi 94 x 2 3. Bague d’etancheite 25 x 33 x 6 4. Bague d’etancheite 30 x 40 x 7 AS 5. Bague d’etancheite 45 x 58 x 7 6. Joint OR Fi 62 x 1,5 Hope this helps. Best Regards, -- Vladan A54 #157 SV PAME
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Vladan SV PAME
Bill,
the extra seal number 5 is 45 x 58 x 7 It’s difficult to check size of the motor seal without taking off motor. For sure shaft coming out of motor is 45 mm so it can be. Also as I see Danny is mentioning slightly different size of seal so could it be that not all manual furlers installed through production line were same? Best Regards, -- Vladan A54 #157 SV PAME
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Vladan, I did give the dimensions of one seal at 60x45x7. However I did say that was from memory. I will check in the next days and let you know. Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 01 October 2021 at 01:56 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
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