A54 floor boards


neurolept2
 
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Quick question if I may, are A54 floor boards made from wood or some faux wood? If wood curious to know why SM2K were done in GRP and later went back to wood panels. 
I like GRP on SM2K, I feel wood panels will need constant maintenance given salt water and foot traffic environment. 

On the other hand I see A54s pics with floor boards in a good shape, is there a trick at keeping them "like new"?

 

Regards, 
Ruslan. 

(still looking for one)

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of neurolept2 <TC215@...>
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I am heading out and will be back this evening some time.
 
 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 14:10
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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 floor boards
 

Quick question if I may, are A54 floor boards made from wood or some faux wood? If wood curious to know why SM2K were done in GRP and later went back to wood panels. 
I like GRP on SM2K, I feel wood panels will need constant maintenance given salt water and foot traffic environment. 

On the other hand I see A54s pics with floor boards in a good shape, is there a trick at keeping them "like new"?

 

Regards, 
Ruslan. 

(still looking for one)


Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila <ann-sofie@...>
 

We have all wooden floors on our SM 232, from 1998. There is no particular maintenance on it. We  have oiled it once or twice since 2006 when we bought Lady Annila. No trouble with footprints and we wash it with normal floor cleaning liquid  and water. 

SM2k also have wooden floor except on the steps on the ”ladder” and the lid to the floor compartments that is made of GRP.

Regards
Ann-Sofie & Jonas
S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998
In Portimão, Portugal


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05/10/2021 kl. 20:10 skrev neurolept2 <TC215@...>:


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I am heading out and will be back this evening some time.


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 14:10
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 floor boards
 

Quick question if I may, are A54 floor boards made from wood or some faux wood? If wood curious to know why SM2K were done in GRP and later went back to wood panels. 
I like GRP on SM2K, I feel wood panels will need constant maintenance given salt water and foot traffic environment. 

On the other hand I see A54s pics with floor boards in a good shape, is there a trick at keeping them "like new"?

 

Regards, 
Ruslan. 

(still looking for one)


Martin Birkhoff
 

Hi Ruslan,

the floor boards of our 54 are made of panels of plywood. The surfaces of the panels are coated by synthetic material. More or less undestroyable. It may happen that the edges become loose after years but they can be glued to the plywood again easily. For design reasons Amel added some wood mouldings (mahagony). After 15 years of use these mouldings do not need any maintenance. (You could treat them with furniture polish.)

As long as I know the second windlass was an extra. But I´m not sure. The strange thing when we got our boat in 2016 was: Obviously the second windlass was never connected to the batteries and it never was mounted to the deck correctly. When I dismounted the windlass I discovered a gap of 8 mm between the GRP of the deck and the gearbox of the windlass completely filled with aluminum oxide. 

Regards
Martin
Mago del Sur - 54#40
currently Mahon, Menorca


amelforme
 

Ruslan, good questions all and the answers will tell a bit about how things evolved at Amel. Originally, the SM 53 had plywood floor boards that were covered with a rather thin layer of teak veneer. The “caulking lines” between the “planks” were drawn with an industrial version of the Magic Marker. Near the end of the last century, Captain Amel was fully retired and living in the south of France near Amel’s base in Hyeres. Every year he would make a visit to the shipyard in La Rochelle. As all the managers of the company were enjoying their new found full freedom of operations with Captain Amel out of sight/out of mind, each time he would visit there was more than a little apprehension about how The Captain might react to any evolutions they had made to HIS design.

Again, Captain was fully retired and had no legal sway at Amel, as if that would make a difference to this larger-than-life man.

 

All of us who knew him were familiar with his ‘my way or the highway’ disposition. He was not to be trifled with. What he said was absolute law even when he was ‘retired’. Anyway, shortly after he arrived, he made an announcement that the lifting floor boards in the saloon were henceforth going to be made of fiberglass with a molded in non-skid and a hinge to position them. He then added that they were to be French Blue in color. I was not in France at the time, but my colleagues at the shipyard who were there were in shock. No way they wanted to do this. They knew, however, they had no choice . So, the Blue Floors, as we called them, were introduced as an evolution of the Super Maramu Millennium series. I could relate a few more interesting stories about the French Blue Floors. Maybe another time…

 

The Amel 54 was the first Amel designed without the assistance of Captain Amel. It was done by a group of Amel people/The Amel Design Team, under the guidance of Jacques Carteau, Captain Amel’s right hand man and, in many respects, his eyes as well. Carteau was the guy who took the Captain’s thoughts and turned them into the design drawings almost since the beginning of Chantiers Amel. It has often been said that the Amel 54 was the last Amel boat that had entirely Captain Amels DNA in it even though he had nothing to do with it. All the department managers had been selected by Henri Amel. Jacques Carteau was the guy who drew and engineered the plans on almost every previous Amel boat. All Captain Amel disciples at the top of their craft. What a team that was to work with! Personally, these were some of the best days of my life.

 

Without the Captain looking over their shoulders, all involved were free to incorporate what our customers were asking for. Stall showers, a ‘real washer and dryer, every port openable and plenty more of them, an even better and more ergonomic galley and navigation station, a standard centerline queen able to be converted into two snug sea berths ( optionally ) and dozens more improvements and evolutions. However, it was instantly recognizable as an Amel in any harbor.

 

The Amel 54 floors have a plywood core with a textured non-skid and a faux teak pattern. It is actually a FORMICA Brand marine division product and is very durable with the exception of the strips on the side which often become unglued from the plywood.

 

The second windlass on the Amel 54 was actually an option from the beginning. All of our demonstration boats, mine included, had dual windlasses so naturally it follows that the customers wanted another windlass too. The slight negative to the second windlass was, that on some boats, the secondary anchor would not get deployed very often. Mechanical things like maintenance and exercise in equal measure. Be sure to aggressively test the second/port side windlass during any survey of a prospective Amel 54.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

           JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C.

                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                  Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ruslan Osmonov
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 floor boards

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Quick question if I may, are A54 floor boards made from wood or some faux wood? If wood curious to know why SM2K were done in GRP and later went back to wood panels. 
I like GRP on SM2K, I feel wood panels will need constant maintenance given salt water and foot traffic environment. 

On the other hand I see A54s pics with floor boards in a good shape, is there a trick at keeping them "like new"?

and one more
- I noticed that later models have one windlass, what is the reason to go from 2 to 1? I would assume the 2 windlass setup was for some good reasons to start with, but not sure why the switch back. 

Regards, 
Ruslan. 

(still looking for one)


amelforme
 

I should have made mention that the Amel Design Team that created the Amel 54 was capably orchestrated and entirely overseen by Amel’s then chairman. Jean Jacques Lemonnier. Jacques Carteau did manage the design details and much of the construction, but would not add his name as the designer. A very modest guy without much of an ego to get in his way.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

           JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C.

                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                  Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of amelforme
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 4:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 floor boards

 

Ruslan, good questions all and the answers will tell a bit about how things evolved at Amel. Originally, the SM 53 had plywood floor boards that were covered with a rather thin layer of teak veneer. The “caulking lines” between the “planks” were drawn with an industrial version of the Magic Marker. Near the end of the last century, Captain Amel was fully retired and living in the south of France near Amel’s base in Hyeres. Every year he would make a visit to the shipyard in La Rochelle. As all the managers of the company were enjoying their new found full freedom of operations with Captain Amel out of sight/out of mind, each time he would visit there was more than a little apprehension about how The Captain might react to any evolutions they had made to HIS design.

Again, Captain was fully retired and had no legal sway at Amel, as if that would make a difference to this larger-than-life man.

 

All of us who knew him were familiar with his ‘my way or the highway’ disposition. He was not to be trifled with. What he said was absolute law even when he was ‘retired’. Anyway, shortly after he arrived, he made an announcement that the lifting floor boards in the saloon were henceforth going to be made of fiberglass with a molded in non-skid and a hinge to position them. He then added that they were to be French Blue in color. I was not in France at the time, but my colleagues at the shipyard who were there were in shock. No way they wanted to do this. They knew, however, they had no choice . So, the Blue Floors, as we called them, were introduced as an evolution of the Super Maramu Millennium series. I could relate a few more interesting stories about the French Blue Floors. Maybe another time…

 

The Amel 54 was the first Amel designed without the assistance of Captain Amel. It was done by a group of Amel people/The Amel Design Team, under the guidance of Jacques Carteau, Captain Amel’s right hand man and, in many respects, his eyes as well. Carteau was the guy who took the Captain’s thoughts and turned them into the design drawings almost since the beginning of Chantiers Amel. It has often been said that the Amel 54 was the last Amel boat that had entirely Captain Amels DNA in it even though he had nothing to do with it. All the department managers had been selected by Henri Amel. Jacques Carteau was the guy who drew and engineered the plans on almost every previous Amel boat. All Captain Amel disciples at the top of their craft. What a team that was to work with! Personally, these were some of the best days of my life.

 

Without the Captain looking over their shoulders, all involved were free to incorporate what our customers were asking for. Stall showers, a ‘real washer and dryer, every port openable and plenty more of them, an even better and more ergonomic galley and navigation station, a standard centerline queen able to be converted into two snug sea berths ( optionally ) and dozens more improvements and evolutions. However, it was instantly recognizable as an Amel in any harbor.

 

The Amel 54 floors have a plywood core with a textured non-skid and a faux teak pattern. It is actually a FORMICA Brand marine division product and is very durable with the exception of the strips on the side which often become unglued from the plywood.

 

The second windlass on the Amel 54 was actually an option from the beginning. All of our demonstration boats, mine included, had dual windlasses so naturally it follows that the customers wanted another windlass too. The slight negative to the second windlass was, that on some boats, the secondary anchor would not get deployed very often. Mechanical things like maintenance and exercise in equal measure. Be sure to aggressively test the second/port side windlass during any survey of a prospective Amel 54.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

           JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C.

                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                  Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ruslan Osmonov
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 floor boards

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Quick question if I may, are A54 floor boards made from wood or some faux wood? If wood curious to know why SM2K were done in GRP and later went back to wood panels. 
I like GRP on SM2K, I feel wood panels will need constant maintenance given salt water and foot traffic environment. 

On the other hand I see A54s pics with floor boards in a good shape, is there a trick at keeping them "like new"?

and one more
- I noticed that later models have one windlass, what is the reason to go from 2 to 1? I would assume the 2 windlass setup was for some good reasons to start with, but not sure why the switch back. 

Regards, 
Ruslan. 

(still looking for one)


Ruslan Osmonov
 

Thank you Ann-Sofie and Martin, very much appreciated. 
Special thank you to Joel, that was very informative and insightful. 


Laurens Vos
 
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Hi Joel,

Thanks for the beautiful and interesting story 👍

Laurens & Rineke


amelforme
 

Thanks Laurens and Rineke. Vela and I hope to see you both sooner than later.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

           JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C.

                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                  Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laurens Vos
Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 4:34 PM
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[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Joel,

Thanks for the beautiful and interesting story 👍

Laurens & Rineke