A54 toploading fridge/ freezer clarification


Porter McRoberts
 

Reudi,
We appreciated your recent post re the removal process for the upright fridge/freezer. A question however. We can’t find these screws. please see link. Where are they?  Many many thanks,
Porter 
A54-152 IBIS 
Newcastle

https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/photo/272445/3379112?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C0


Arno Luijten
 

Porter,

Be aware you have the half-lid version of the countertop fridge/freezer, I don’t think you can do the same as what Ruedi did. But maybe I’m wrong.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique


WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Porter

 

I found 4 of the screw inside the freezer, 3 where on the Backboard side (Thermostat side) and one on Starboard below the lid strut.

5 of the screws are behind the wood-wall on the back of the saloon seating cushion. Excuse my English, it is not that good to explain perfect

 

Best regards

Ruedi

WASABI A54-55

 

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Reudi,
We appreciated your recent post re the removal process for the upright fridge/freezer. A question however. We can’t find these screws. please see link. Where are they?  Many many thanks,
Porter 
A54-152 IBIS 
Newcastle


https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/photo/272445/3379112?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C0


WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Porter, Hi Arno,

 

The half lid version can be removed on the same way. Some of the few screws are slightly on other position. But I’m sure 3-5 on the back of the seating.

I attached a photos from another boat with half lid who removed by a very similar way, but I have not more detailed Information.

 

Just watch out around the wood connections to find it. Be aware you don’t need to dismantle the whole fridge.

The complete cabinet come off in one piece, and there are not more than 8-10 connecting screws!

 

Regards,

Ruedi Waldispühl

WASABI A54-55

 

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Porter,

Be aware you have the half-lid version of the countertop fridge/freezer, I don’t think you can do the same as what Ruedi did. But maybe I’m wrong.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique


Porter McRoberts
 

Reudi, Arno, Thomas and all the 54 gang.  

Thank you for this thread. Sadly, however.. I’m still screwed…despite unscrewing everything I can find!  The cabinet shows no sign of movement with screws out, either in the vertical plane, aft plane or laterally.
5 Screws attaching cabinet to backrest/division of galley to salon (Picture one)
3 additional “mystery" screws in similar position (Picture one)
4 screw to the port side of the inside of of the lid enclosure (Picture two)
1 starboard screw attaching to the pillar at the most port of the backrest (not photographed, but in Reudi’s description
 Q: Are there more screws I am missing?

Last photograph is the reason I am so interested in this thread.  On a starboard tack there is a squeak from this join of the cabinetry.  I can see and feel about a half millimeter of travel there, red relative to blue when in any significant seas, which seems to be not occasionally.  

I want to eliminate that squeak (which incidentally doesn’t bother the rest of the crew), but I like a quiet ride, and it's getting more pronounced.

So I seek a solution to that movement, and thinking once cabinet is removed I can best address it. OR if anyone can think of an alternative approach I am all ears.  I can remove the screen at the base and get a hand back and inside.   Glue? More screws?   How do folks deal with squeaks on their boats? Or am I alone in this… the stairs are next...

All thinking appreciated!  

Thank you!

Porter
A54-152 
Newcastle, AUS



On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:43 PM, WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Porter, Hi Arno,
 
The half lid version can be removed on the same way. Some of the few screws are slightly on other position. But I’m sure 3-5 on the back of the seating.
I attached a photos from another boat with half lid who removed by a very similar way, but I have not more detailed Information. 
 
Just watch out around the wood connections to find it. Be aware you don’t need to dismantle the whole fridge.
The complete cabinet come off in one piece, and there are not more than 8-10 connecting screws!
 
Regards, 
Ruedi Waldispühl
WASABI A54-55
 
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Porter,

Be aware you have the half-lid version of the countertop fridge/freezer, I don’t think you can do the same as what Ruedi did. But maybe I’m wrong.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique 

<top load fridge compressor access (3)[2].pdf>


Courtney Gorman
 


Porter there’s a screw behind the hydraulic lift piston 
Cheers 

On Mar 19, 2022, at 1:10 AM, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Reudi, Arno, Thomas and all the 54 gang.  

Thank you for this thread. Sadly, however.. I’m still screwed…despite unscrewing everything I can find!  The cabinet shows no sign of movement with screws out, either in the vertical plane, aft plane or laterally.
5 Screws attaching cabinet to backrest/division of galley to salon (Picture one)
3 additional “mystery" screws in similar position (Picture one)
4 screw to the port side of the inside of of the lid enclosure (Picture two)
1 starboard screw attaching to the pillar at the most port of the backrest (not photographed, but in Reudi’s description
 Q: Are there more screws I am missing?

Last photograph is the reason I am so interested in this thread.  On a starboard tack there is a squeak from this join of the cabinetry.  I can see and feel about a half millimeter of travel there, red relative to blue when in any significant seas, which seems to be not occasionally.  

I want to eliminate that squeak (which incidentally doesn’t bother the rest of the crew), but I like a quiet ride, and it's getting more pronounced.

So I seek a solution to that movement, and thinking once cabinet is removed I can best address it. OR if anyone can think of an alternative approach I am all ears.  I can remove the screen at the base and get a hand back and inside.   Glue? More screws?   How do folks deal with squeaks on their boats? Or am I alone in this… the stairs are next...

All thinking appreciated!  

Thank you!

Porter
A54-152 
Newcastle, AUS



On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:43 PM, WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Porter, Hi Arno,
 
The half lid version can be removed on the same way. Some of the few screws are slightly on other position. But I’m sure 3-5 on the back of the seating.
I attached a photos from another boat with half lid who removed by a very similar way, but I have not more detailed Information. 
 
Just watch out around the wood connections to find it. Be aware you don’t need to dismantle the whole fridge.
The complete cabinet come off in one piece, and there are not more than 8-10 connecting screws!
 
Regards, 
Ruedi Waldispühl
WASABI A54-55
 
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Porter,

Be aware you have the half-lid version of the countertop fridge/freezer, I don’t think you can do the same as what Ruedi did. But maybe I’m wrong.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique 

<top load fridge compressor access (3)[2].pdf>


Porter McRoberts
 

The one behind the hydraulic lift is one that screws to starboard into the pillar?  I got that one. And incidentally the starboard side moves some with encouragement but the port side is stuck solid. Is it glued?    Thank you!

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS  A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Mar 19, 2022, at 11:12 PM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:


Porter there’s a screw behind the hydraulic lift piston 
Cheers 

On Mar 19, 2022, at 1:10 AM, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Reudi, Arno, Thomas and all the 54 gang.  

Thank you for this thread. Sadly, however.. I’m still screwed…despite unscrewing everything I can find!  The cabinet shows no sign of movement with screws out, either in the vertical plane, aft plane or laterally.
5 Screws attaching cabinet to backrest/division of galley to salon (Picture one)
3 additional “mystery" screws in similar position (Picture one)
4 screw to the port side of the inside of of the lid enclosure (Picture two)
1 starboard screw attaching to the pillar at the most port of the backrest (not photographed, but in Reudi’s description
 Q: Are there more screws I am missing?

Last photograph is the reason I am so interested in this thread.  On a starboard tack there is a squeak from this join of the cabinetry.  I can see and feel about a half millimeter of travel there, red relative to blue when in any significant seas, which seems to be not occasionally.  

I want to eliminate that squeak (which incidentally doesn’t bother the rest of the crew), but I like a quiet ride, and it's getting more pronounced.

So I seek a solution to that movement, and thinking once cabinet is removed I can best address it. OR if anyone can think of an alternative approach I am all ears.  I can remove the screen at the base and get a hand back and inside.   Glue? More screws?   How do folks deal with squeaks on their boats? Or am I alone in this… the stairs are next...

All thinking appreciated!  

Thank you!

Porter
A54-152 
Newcastle, AUS


<5 Backrest screws + 3 additional.jpeg>
<Four Side screws 2.jpg>
<Four side Screws.jpeg>
<My Nemesis the squeek.jpeg>

On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:43 PM, WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Porter, Hi Arno,
 
The half lid version can be removed on the same way. Some of the few screws are slightly on other position. But I’m sure 3-5 on the back of the seating.
I attached a photos from another boat with half lid who removed by a very similar way, but I have not more detailed Information. 
 
Just watch out around the wood connections to find it. Be aware you don’t need to dismantle the whole fridge.
The complete cabinet come off in one piece, and there are not more than 8-10 connecting screws!
 
Regards, 
Ruedi Waldispühl
WASABI A54-55
 
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Porter,

Be aware you have the half-lid version of the countertop fridge/freezer, I don’t think you can do the same as what Ruedi did. But maybe I’m wrong.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique 

<top load fridge compressor access (3)[2].pdf>


Sv Garulfo
 

Porter,

As a guess I would remove the cutlery drawer and look for screws in the beam axis. 

If it can make you feel better we have the exact same squeak when the boat rolls a bit much. Definitely annoying...

Let us know what you find

Best

Thomas 
GARULFO 
A54-122
Tahiti 



On 19 Mar 2022, at 11:13, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

The one behind the hydraulic lift is one that screws to starboard into the pillar?  I got that one. And incidentally the starboard side moves some with encouragement but the port side is stuck solid. Is it glued?    Thank you!

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS  A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

On Mar 19, 2022, at 11:12 PM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:


Porter there’s a screw behind the hydraulic lift piston 
Cheers 

On Mar 19, 2022, at 1:10 AM, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Reudi, Arno, Thomas and all the 54 gang.  

Thank you for this thread. Sadly, however.. I’m still screwed…despite unscrewing everything I can find!  The cabinet shows no sign of movement with screws out, either in the vertical plane, aft plane or laterally.
5 Screws attaching cabinet to backrest/division of galley to salon (Picture one)
3 additional “mystery" screws in similar position (Picture one)
4 screw to the port side of the inside of of the lid enclosure (Picture two)
1 starboard screw attaching to the pillar at the most port of the backrest (not photographed, but in Reudi’s description
 Q: Are there more screws I am missing?

Last photograph is the reason I am so interested in this thread.  On a starboard tack there is a squeak from this join of the cabinetry.  I can see and feel about a half millimeter of travel there, red relative to blue when in any significant seas, which seems to be not occasionally.  

I want to eliminate that squeak (which incidentally doesn’t bother the rest of the crew), but I like a quiet ride, and it's getting more pronounced.

So I seek a solution to that movement, and thinking once cabinet is removed I can best address it. OR if anyone can think of an alternative approach I am all ears.  I can remove the screen at the base and get a hand back and inside.   Glue? More screws?   How do folks deal with squeaks on their boats? Or am I alone in this… the stairs are next...

All thinking appreciated!  

Thank you!

Porter
A54-152 
Newcastle, AUS


<5 Backrest screws + 3 additional.jpeg>
<Four Side screws 2.jpg>
<Four side Screws.jpeg>
<My Nemesis the squeek.jpeg>

On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:43 PM, WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Porter, Hi Arno,
 
The half lid version can be removed on the same way. Some of the few screws are slightly on other position. But I’m sure 3-5 on the back of the seating.
I attached a photos from another boat with half lid who removed by a very similar way, but I have not more detailed Information. 
 
Just watch out around the wood connections to find it. Be aware you don’t need to dismantle the whole fridge.
The complete cabinet come off in one piece, and there are not more than 8-10 connecting screws!
 
Regards, 
Ruedi Waldispühl
WASABI A54-55
 
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Porter,

Be aware you have the half-lid version of the countertop fridge/freezer, I don’t think you can do the same as what Ruedi did. But maybe I’m wrong.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique 

<top load fridge compressor access (3)[2].pdf>


Porter McRoberts
 

Thankyou Thomas et al.

Good to know we’re in good company!
I cannot find further screws. A pal down the dock and wooden boat builder thinks there remains glue which prevents the removal. Interesting thought. And a possibility. His solution: a couple of mm of shim under the front “timber”. Done. Today 20 kts just forward of the beam, port tack, 8.5-9 kts in 2.5m seas. Silence is golden!!  Not a creak or a croak. 
 

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152 Newcastle. 
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Mar 22, 2022, at 2:28 PM, Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:


Porter,

As a guess I would remove the cutlery drawer and look for screws in the beam axis. 

If it can make you feel better we have the exact same squeak when the boat rolls a bit much. Definitely annoying...

Let us know what you find

Best

Thomas 
GARULFO 
A54-122
Tahiti 



On 19 Mar 2022, at 11:13, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

The one behind the hydraulic lift is one that screws to starboard into the pillar?  I got that one. And incidentally the starboard side moves some with encouragement but the port side is stuck solid. Is it glued?    Thank you!

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS  A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

On Mar 19, 2022, at 11:12 PM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:


Porter there’s a screw behind the hydraulic lift piston 
Cheers 

On Mar 19, 2022, at 1:10 AM, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Reudi, Arno, Thomas and all the 54 gang.  

Thank you for this thread. Sadly, however.. I’m still screwed…despite unscrewing everything I can find!  The cabinet shows no sign of movement with screws out, either in the vertical plane, aft plane or laterally.
5 Screws attaching cabinet to backrest/division of galley to salon (Picture one)
3 additional “mystery" screws in similar position (Picture one)
4 screw to the port side of the inside of of the lid enclosure (Picture two)
1 starboard screw attaching to the pillar at the most port of the backrest (not photographed, but in Reudi’s description
 Q: Are there more screws I am missing?

Last photograph is the reason I am so interested in this thread.  On a starboard tack there is a squeak from this join of the cabinetry.  I can see and feel about a half millimeter of travel there, red relative to blue when in any significant seas, which seems to be not occasionally.  

I want to eliminate that squeak (which incidentally doesn’t bother the rest of the crew), but I like a quiet ride, and it's getting more pronounced.

So I seek a solution to that movement, and thinking once cabinet is removed I can best address it. OR if anyone can think of an alternative approach I am all ears.  I can remove the screen at the base and get a hand back and inside.   Glue? More screws?   How do folks deal with squeaks on their boats? Or am I alone in this… the stairs are next...

All thinking appreciated!  

Thank you!

Porter
A54-152 
Newcastle, AUS


<5 Backrest screws + 3 additional.jpeg>
<Four Side screws 2.jpg>
<Four side Screws.jpeg>
<My Nemesis the squeek.jpeg>

On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:43 PM, WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Porter, Hi Arno,
 
The half lid version can be removed on the same way. Some of the few screws are slightly on other position. But I’m sure 3-5 on the back of the seating.
I attached a photos from another boat with half lid who removed by a very similar way, but I have not more detailed Information. 
 
Just watch out around the wood connections to find it. Be aware you don’t need to dismantle the whole fridge.
The complete cabinet come off in one piece, and there are not more than 8-10 connecting screws!
 
Regards, 
Ruedi Waldispühl
WASABI A54-55
 
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Porter,

Be aware you have the half-lid version of the countertop fridge/freezer, I don’t think you can do the same as what Ruedi did. But maybe I’m wrong.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique 

<top load fridge compressor access (3)[2].pdf>