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Hi all, We're headed to New Zealand this Austral Summer and have a load of projects to get done. I know some of you are from NZ and many of you have been there, so I'm hoping to get some recommendations for the following projects: 1) Strip hull to gelcoat and repaint. It seems that in NZ, soda blasting is less common than sand blasting. I'd also like to get the cast iron ballast stripped and recoated. We also want to raise the waterline. 2) Building a hard top for our A54 After this thread, I'm seriously contemplating having a hard top added. The current favored design is something similar to Soleil Bleu https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/hardtop_for_amel_54/75406304?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&jump=13) Replace motor mounts. Two bolts have broken on our motor mounts so the motor will need to be lifted and the remaining studs drilled out. 4) Acrylic window replacement 5) Solar electrical. We want to add more rigid solar on top of the new hard top. Currently, we have an appointment for haul out at Norsand boatyard and they're mostly an "open boatyard" except for boatbuilding and painting. For projects requiring those tradesmen, we will need to use Norsand. If Norsand is not a good choice, I'm happy to switch boatyards. Thanks in advance! -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah, currently Tahiti, preparing for passage to Fiji http://www.svtengah.com
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Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
Hi Scott,
I have a lot of experience based in Opua/Bay of Islands and can recommend a few businesses related to your projects in case you stay up here. I'm sure others can give better tips regarding the Whangarei area (usually pronounced fuhng-uh-ray). I haven't heard of any issues at the Norsand boatyard except the tornado that ripped through in June 2020 - obviously that's out of their control. They do use a trailer/slipway method vs a travel lift. The yard is also unsealed. At least four other SuperMaramus have used Riverside Drive Marina in Whangarei (further up the river) for their haul outs recently (Quetzal, Pitu, Glazig, Perigee). It's closer to the town center but further from the marine industrial area where Norsand is located. Perhaps they can comment on their experiences.
Business I recommend in Opua: BOI Marina boatyard or Bluefix can do bottom work - sanding, painting, etc. I'm not sure about the particle blasting tho Opua Boat Builders or Bluefix for hardtop Cater Marine is an excellent source for anything marine - if they don't have it in stock, they can get it in and will price match Cam from TransMarine for anything electrical Matt Randell from Marine Solutions Northland for engine/mechanical (motor mounts) I know you didn't mention it, but there's also a great rigger up here that has recently done rig replacements on several Amels (including a 54). His name is Paul "Buddha" Smith from NZ Yacht Services.
Happy to discuss more and look forward to seeing you guys get here!
Cheers, Mike Longcor SV Trilogy SM23 NZ
Hi all,
We're headed to New Zealand this Austral Summer and have a load of projects to get done. I know some of you are from NZ and many of you have been there, so I'm hoping to get some recommendations for the following projects:
1) Strip hull to gelcoat and repaint. It seems that in NZ, soda blasting is less common than sand blasting. I'd also like to get the cast iron ballast stripped and recoated. We also want to raise the waterline.
2) Building a hard top for our A54
After this thread, I'm seriously contemplating having a hard top added. The current favored design is something similar to Soleil Bleu
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/hardtop_for_amel_54/75406304?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&jump=1
3) Replace motor mounts. Two bolts have broken on our motor mounts so the motor will need to be lifted and the remaining studs drilled out.
4) Acrylic window replacement
5) Solar electrical. We want to add more rigid solar on top of the new hard top.
Currently, we have an appointment for haul out at Norsand boatyard and they're mostly an "open boatyard" except for boatbuilding and painting. For projects requiring those tradesmen, we will need to use Norsand. If Norsand is not a good choice, I'm happy to switch boatyards.
Thanks in advance!
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah, currently Tahiti, preparing for passage to Fiji
http://www.svtengah.com
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I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina. Heinz sy Quetzal. 292
Hi all,
We're headed to New Zealand this Austral Summer and have a load of projects to get done. I know some of you are from NZ and many of you have been there, so I'm hoping to get some recommendations for the following projects:
1) Strip hull to gelcoat and repaint. It seems that in NZ, soda blasting is less common than sand blasting. I'd also like to get the cast iron ballast stripped and recoated. We also want to raise the waterline.
2) Building a hard top for our A54
After this thread, I'm seriously contemplating having a hard top added. The current favored design is something similar to Soleil Bleu
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/hardtop_for_amel_54/75406304?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&jump=1
3) Replace motor mounts. Two bolts have broken on our motor mounts so the motor will need to be lifted and the remaining studs drilled out.
4) Acrylic window replacement
5) Solar electrical. We want to add more rigid solar on top of the new hard top.
Currently, we have an appointment for haul out at Norsand boatyard and they're mostly an "open boatyard" except for boatbuilding and painting. For projects requiring those tradesmen, we will need to use Norsand. If Norsand is not a good choice, I'm happy to switch boatyards.
Thanks in advance!
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah, currently Tahiti, preparing for passage to Fiji
http://www.svtengah.com
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Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people
Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina. Heinz sy Quetzal. 292 -- Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
I'll add that my understanding of the NZ electrical certification/electrical warrant of fitness that Heinz speaks of only applies to yachts in the water at the marinas - and only if they wish to plug the vessel into shore power. You can buy/rent pre-certified "boxes" that provide A/C outlets for onboard appliances, tools, anything you want to plug in besides the vessel itself. It seems vessels on the hard can basically do what they want regarding electricity. I'm sure each marina has its own policies on that. The electricity was "free" (included) in the hardstand fee when I was hauled out at BOI Marina in Opua in November 2020.
Cheers, Mike Longcor SV Trilogy SM23 NZ
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina. Heinz sy Quetzal. 292 -- Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Absolutely correct Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:52, Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy) <svtrilogy53@...> a écrit :
I'll add that my understanding of the NZ electrical certification/electrical warrant of fitness that Heinz speaks of only applies to yachts in the water at the marinas - and only if they wish to plug the vessel into shore power. You can buy/rent pre-certified "boxes" that provide A/C outlets for onboard appliances, tools, anything you want to plug in besides the vessel itself. It seems vessels on the hard can basically do what they want regarding electricity. I'm sure each marina has its own policies on that. The electricity was "free" (included) in the hardstand fee when I was hauled out at BOI Marina in Opua in November 2020.
Cheers, Mike Longcor SV Trilogy SM23 NZ For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina. Heinz sy Quetzal. 292 -- Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.
Is that not the case?
We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina. Heinz sy Quetzal. 292 -- Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 18:55 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.
Is that not the case?
We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina.
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292
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Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
Hi Scott, You are definitely spoilt for choices in New Zealand. Spent 15 years living aboard our previous yacht in three different marinas in Auckland- (city of sails) I was also in charge of four Sail Training Craft (STC) that were maintained to a very high standard using numerous boatyards and services. Ovlov did engine rebuilds and eventually replaced all the (STC) Volvo engines in theses boats over the years. My choice would be Orams in downtown Auckland for haulout and projects. This yard does not have any shower facilities so it is not set up for live aboard. It is not the cheapest but it has all the services right there including every Marina shop you ask for. Can’t beat the location as you are in downtown Auckland and have three of New Zealand’s largest chandleries within 400m. Like the Bay of Islands - Auckland’s Hauraki Gulf has a fabulous cruising ground.
Gulf Harbour is another good location in terms of marine services and haulout facilities. Marina costs are expensive but it has good liveaboard (showers, laundry restaurant etc) facilities
Norsand is also very good and widely used by visiting boats from overseas. I was once there when there were four other Amels hauled out. This is a good choice for live aboard on the hard. Opua has good marine services and fantastic boat club and a couple of very good chandleries, but is limited in supermarkets and you will need to go the Paihia for greater selection. My experience being hauled out there was that the yard is not sealed and once when we hauled out there the hydraulic lift burst a hose and sprayed oil all over our teak decks and mainsail.
My choices in terms of cost and live aboard would be: 1. Norsand 2. Opua
My choices in terms of location and availability of services: 1. Orams, Auckland 2. Gulf Harbour, Auckland 3. Opua
There are many other options. You need to way up what are all your needs. You will love your time in New Zealand for many reasons. Sailing, maintenance and scenery. Make sure you get the South Island.
Ross snd Donna SV INTREPID KIWI SM2K #356 Currently cruising Montenegro
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:34 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 18:55 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.
Is that not the case?
We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina.
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292
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Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
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Hi Ross, just one update to your information they sealed the Opua boat yard this year and a couple of years ago completed a huge expansion to the marina. They also have an extensive area of what are designated work berths, obviously to get work done on your boat, 45 NZ$ per night for the SM. Toilets and showers are first class and there is a big upstairs lounge for liveaboards to use.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 22:39 Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,
You are definitely spoilt for choices in New Zealand. Spent 15 years living aboard our previous yacht in three different marinas in Auckland- (city of sails) I was also in charge of four Sail Training Craft (STC) that were maintained to a very high standard using numerous boatyards and services. Ovlov did engine rebuilds and eventually replaced all the (STC) Volvo engines in theses boats over the years. My choice would be Orams in downtown Auckland for haulout and projects. This yard does not have any shower facilities so it is not set up for live aboard. It is not the cheapest but it has all the services right there including every Marina shop you ask for. Can’t beat the location as you are in downtown Auckland and have three of New Zealand’s largest chandleries within 400m. Like the Bay of Islands - Auckland’s Hauraki Gulf has a fabulous cruising ground.
Gulf Harbour is another good location in terms of marine services and haulout facilities. Marina costs are expensive but it has good liveaboard (showers, laundry restaurant etc) facilities
Norsand is also very good and widely used by visiting boats from overseas. I was once there when there were four other Amels hauled out. This is a good choice for live aboard on the hard. Opua has good marine services and fantastic boat club and a couple of very good chandleries, but is limited in supermarkets and you will need to go the Paihia for greater selection. My experience being hauled out there was that the yard is not sealed and once when we hauled out there the hydraulic lift burst a hose and sprayed oil all over our teak decks and mainsail.
My choices in terms of cost and live aboard would be:
1. Norsand
2. Opua
My choices in terms of location and availability of services:
1. Orams, Auckland
2. Gulf Harbour, Auckland
3. Opua
There are many other options. You need to way up what are all your needs. You will love your time in New Zealand for many reasons. Sailing, maintenance and scenery. Make sure you get the South Island.
Ross snd Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently cruising Montenegro
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:34 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 18:55 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.
Is that not the case?
We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina.
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292
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Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
Thanks Danny, it has been a few years since I was last in Opua. Pleased to hear they upgraded the haulout area. I knew it was in the plan. Love those meals and social evenings at the yacht club.
Regards
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 9:08 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi Ross, just one update to your information they sealed the Opua boat yard this year and a couple of years ago completed a huge expansion to the marina. They also have an extensive area of what are designated work berths, obviously to get work done on your boat, 45 NZ$ per night for the SM. Toilets and showers are first class and there is a big upstairs lounge for liveaboards to use.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 22:39 Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,
You are definitely spoilt for choices in New Zealand. Spent 15 years living aboard our previous yacht in three different marinas in Auckland- (city of sails) I was also in charge of four Sail Training Craft (STC) that were maintained to a very high standard using numerous boatyards and services. Ovlov did engine rebuilds and eventually replaced all the (STC) Volvo engines in theses boats over the years. My choice would be Orams in downtown Auckland for haulout and projects. This yard does not have any shower facilities so it is not set up for live aboard. It is not the cheapest but it has all the services right there including every Marina shop you ask for. Can’t beat the location as you are in downtown Auckland and have three of New Zealand’s largest chandleries within 400m. Like the Bay of Islands - Auckland’s Hauraki Gulf has a fabulous cruising ground.
Gulf Harbour is another good location in terms of marine services and haulout facilities. Marina costs are expensive but it has good liveaboard (showers, laundry restaurant etc) facilities
Norsand is also very good and widely used by visiting boats from overseas. I was once there when there were four other Amels hauled out. This is a good choice for live aboard on the hard. Opua has good marine services and fantastic boat club and a couple of very good chandleries, but is limited in supermarkets and you will need to go the Paihia for greater selection. My experience being hauled out there was that the yard is not sealed and once when we hauled out there the hydraulic lift burst a hose and sprayed oil all over our teak decks and mainsail.
My choices in terms of cost and live aboard would be:
1. Norsand
2. Opua
My choices in terms of location and availability of services:
1. Orams, Auckland
2. Gulf Harbour, Auckland
3. Opua
There are many other options. You need to way up what are all your needs. You will love your time in New Zealand for many reasons. Sailing, maintenance and scenery. Make sure you get the South Island.
Ross snd Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently cruising Montenegro
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:34 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 18:55 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.
Is that not the case?
We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina.
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292
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Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
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What exactly does sealed mean?
Does that mean that they do not allow outside contractors? I have heard some of them don't even allow you to work on your own boat!
On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 09:07 Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:
Hi Ross, just one update to your information they sealed the Opua boat yard this year and a couple of years ago completed a huge expansion to the marina. They also have an extensive area of what are designated work berths, obviously to get work done on your boat, 45 NZ$ per night for the SM. Toilets and showers are first class and there is a big upstairs lounge for liveaboards to use.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Hi Scott,
You are definitely spoilt for choices in New Zealand. Spent 15 years living aboard our previous yacht in three different marinas in Auckland- (city of sails) I was also in charge of four Sail Training Craft (STC) that were maintained to a very high standard using numerous boatyards and services. Ovlov did engine rebuilds and eventually replaced all the (STC) Volvo engines in theses boats over the years. My choice would be Orams in downtown Auckland for haulout and projects. This yard does not have any shower facilities so it is not set up for live aboard. It is not the cheapest but it has all the services right there including every Marina shop you ask for. Can’t beat the location as you are in downtown Auckland and have three of New Zealand’s largest chandleries within 400m. Like the Bay of Islands - Auckland’s Hauraki Gulf has a fabulous cruising ground.
Gulf Harbour is another good location in terms of marine services and haulout facilities. Marina costs are expensive but it has good liveaboard (showers, laundry restaurant etc) facilities
Norsand is also very good and widely used by visiting boats from overseas. I was once there when there were four other Amels hauled out. This is a good choice for live aboard on the hard. Opua has good marine services and fantastic boat club and a couple of very good chandleries, but is limited in supermarkets and you will need to go the Paihia for greater selection. My experience being hauled out there was that the yard is not sealed and once when we hauled out there the hydraulic lift burst a hose and sprayed oil all over our teak decks and mainsail.
My choices in terms of cost and live aboard would be:
1. Norsand
2. Opua
My choices in terms of location and availability of services:
1. Orams, Auckland
2. Gulf Harbour, Auckland
3. Opua
There are many other options. You need to way up what are all your needs. You will love your time in New Zealand for many reasons. Sailing, maintenance and scenery. Make sure you get the South Island.
Ross snd Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently cruising Montenegro
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:34 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.
Is that not the case?
We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina.
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292
Am 22.06.2022 12:43 schrieb Scott SV Tengah < Scott.nguyen@...>:
Hi all,
We're headed to New Zealand this Austral Summer and have a load of projects to get done. I know some of you are from NZ and many of you have been there, so I'm hoping to get some recommendations for the following projects:
1) Strip hull to gelcoat and repaint. It seems that in NZ, soda blasting is less common than sand blasting. I'd also like to get the cast iron ballast stripped and recoated. We also want to raise the waterline.
2) Building a hard top for our A54
After this thread, I'm seriously contemplating having a hard top added. The current favored design is something similar to Soleil Bleu
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/hardtop_for_amel_54/75406304?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&jump=1
3) Replace motor mounts. Two bolts have broken on our motor mounts so the motor will need to be lifted and the remaining studs drilled out.
4) Acrylic window replacement
5) Solar electrical. We want to add more rigid solar on top of the new hard top.
Currently, we have an appointment for haul out at Norsand boatyard and they're mostly an "open boatyard" except for boatbuilding and painting. For projects requiring those tradesmen, we will need to use Norsand. If Norsand is not a good choice, I'm happy to switch boatyards.
Thanks in advance!
--
Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah, currently Tahiti, preparing for passage to Fiji
http://www.svtengah.com
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Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
Sealed means they have upgraded the haulout ground from gravel to either concrete or tar seal. I have not heard of many yards in NZ that will not allow you to work on your own boat. Many marinas do require contractors to be registered with local marinas for a number of reasons including health and safety.
Regards
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:02 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote: What exactly does sealed mean?
Does that mean that they do not allow outside contractors? I have heard some of them don't even allow you to work on your own boat! On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 09:07 Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:
Hi Ross, just one update to your information they sealed the Opua boat yard this year and a couple of years ago completed a huge expansion to the marina. They also have an extensive area of what are designated work berths, obviously to get work done on your boat, 45 NZ$ per night for the SM. Toilets and showers are first class and there is a big upstairs lounge for liveaboards to use.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Hi Scott,
You are definitely spoilt for choices in New Zealand. Spent 15 years living aboard our previous yacht in three different marinas in Auckland- (city of sails) I was also in charge of four Sail Training Craft (STC) that were maintained to a very high standard using numerous boatyards and services. Ovlov did engine rebuilds and eventually replaced all the (STC) Volvo engines in theses boats over the years. My choice would be Orams in downtown Auckland for haulout and projects. This yard does not have any shower facilities so it is not set up for live aboard. It is not the cheapest but it has all the services right there including every Marina shop you ask for. Can’t beat the location as you are in downtown Auckland and have three of New Zealand’s largest chandleries within 400m. Like the Bay of Islands - Auckland’s Hauraki Gulf has a fabulous cruising ground.
Gulf Harbour is another good location in terms of marine services and haulout facilities. Marina costs are expensive but it has good liveaboard (showers, laundry restaurant etc) facilities
Norsand is also very good and widely used by visiting boats from overseas. I was once there when there were four other Amels hauled out. This is a good choice for live aboard on the hard. Opua has good marine services and fantastic boat club and a couple of very good chandleries, but is limited in supermarkets and you will need to go the Paihia for greater selection. My experience being hauled out there was that the yard is not sealed and once when we hauled out there the hydraulic lift burst a hose and sprayed oil all over our teak decks and mainsail.
My choices in terms of cost and live aboard would be:
1. Norsand
2. Opua
My choices in terms of location and availability of services:
1. Orams, Auckland
2. Gulf Harbour, Auckland
3. Opua
There are many other options. You need to way up what are all your needs. You will love your time in New Zealand for many reasons. Sailing, maintenance and scenery. Make sure you get the South Island.
Ross snd Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently cruising Montenegro
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On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:34 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.
Is that not the case?
We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina.
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292
Am 22.06.2022 12:43 schrieb Scott SV Tengah < Scott.nguyen@...>:
Hi all,
We're headed to New Zealand this Austral Summer and have a load of projects to get done. I know some of you are from NZ and many of you have been there, so I'm hoping to get some recommendations for the following projects:
1) Strip hull to gelcoat and repaint. It seems that in NZ, soda blasting is less common than sand blasting. I'd also like to get the cast iron ballast stripped and recoated. We also want to raise the waterline.
2) Building a hard top for our A54
After this thread, I'm seriously contemplating having a hard top added. The current favored design is something similar to Soleil Bleu
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/hardtop_for_amel_54/75406304?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&jump=1
3) Replace motor mounts. Two bolts have broken on our motor mounts so the motor will need to be lifted and the remaining studs drilled out.
4) Acrylic window replacement
5) Solar electrical. We want to add more rigid solar on top of the new hard top.
Currently, we have an appointment for haul out at Norsand boatyard and they're mostly an "open boatyard" except for boatbuilding and painting. For projects requiring those tradesmen, we will need to use Norsand. If Norsand is not a good choice, I'm happy to switch boatyards.
Thanks in advance!
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah, currently Tahiti, preparing for passage to Fiji
http://www.svtengah.com
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Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
-- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
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Hi Ross, yes the Opua Cruising club meals are still going strong. The quality of the offering is really good now, a real step up in the last 2 years even though the people doing it are the same. I would say their standard has lifted from cook to chef.
Kind Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
On 23/06/2022 08:56 Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer@...> wrote:
Thanks Danny, it has been a few years since I was last in Opua. Pleased to hear they upgraded the haulout area. I knew it was in the plan. Love those meals and social evenings at the yacht club.
Regards
Ross
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 9:08 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi Ross, just one update to your information they sealed the Opua boat yard this year and a couple of years ago completed a huge expansion to the marina. They also have an extensive area of what are designated work berths, obviously to get work done on your boat, 45 NZ$ per night for the SM. Toilets and showers are first class and there is a big upstairs lounge for liveaboards to use.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 22:39 Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,
You are definitely spoilt for choices in New Zealand. Spent 15 years living aboard our previous yacht in three different marinas in Auckland- (city of sails) I was also in charge of four Sail Training Craft (STC) that were maintained to a very high standard using numerous boatyards and services. Ovlov did engine rebuilds and eventually replaced all the (STC) Volvo engines in theses boats over the years. My choice would be Orams in downtown Auckland for haulout and projects. This yard does not have any shower facilities so it is not set up for live aboard. It is not the cheapest but it has all the services right there including every Marina shop you ask for. Can’t beat the location as you are in downtown Auckland and have three of New Zealand’s largest chandleries within 400m. Like the Bay of Islands - Auckland’s Hauraki Gulf has a fabulous cruising ground.
Gulf Harbour is another good location in terms of marine services and haulout facilities. Marina costs are expensive but it has good liveaboard (showers, laundry restaurant etc) facilities
Norsand is also very good and widely used by visiting boats from overseas. I was once there when there were four other Amels hauled out. This is a good choice for live aboard on the hard. Opua has good marine services and fantastic boat club and a couple of very good chandleries, but is limited in supermarkets and you will need to go the Paihia for greater selection. My experience being hauled out there was that the yard is not sealed and once when we hauled out there the hydraulic lift burst a hose and sprayed oil all over our teak decks and mainsail.
My choices in terms of cost and live aboard would be:
1. Norsand
2. Opua
My choices in terms of location and availability of services:
1. Orams, Auckland
2. Gulf Harbour, Auckland
3. Opua
There are many other options. You need to way up what are all your needs. You will love your time in New Zealand for many reasons. Sailing, maintenance and scenery. Make sure you get the South Island.
Ross snd Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently cruising Montenegro
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:34 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 18:55 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.
Is that not the case?
We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :
I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina. No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina.
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292
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Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
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Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
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Hi Scott My experiences getting BOTTOM PAINT REPLACED at Riverside Drive Marina. (Whangarei).
For environmental reasons blasting antifoul paint off was not allowed. So it was done by hand by Limbard scraper. It was time consuming & difficult to get experienced workers).
The marina staff were always helpful but were paranoid about any flakes of antifoul paint that might end up on the ground - fines if caught. They required big screens to completely surround the boat & tarpaulins underneath. This took 2 days to set up & frequently had to be fixed when the winds were strong. Of course, when spray painting the screens were already set up.
local painter - Simon was very good. He painted the bottom layers. (Mostly spray paint - fast)
I also considered doing the keel. I decided to wait until I could access a sand blaster.
This marina was unsealed. Rain => muddy mess - difficult to keep out of boat I certainly would research other places to get this job done. This job is not nice & labour intensive. Can you do it in Fiji? I am not sure - maybe soda blasting can be done in NZ but probably need to go in a shed (masts pulled)??
SOLAR PANELS I upgraded my solar panels at Opua. I can recommend Cameron (someone else also recommended him) This job required some welding Garth the local welder did a good job. Unfortunately can’t weld in the water without council permission so this job is best done on the hard.
Chris Paul SV GLAZIG SM 352
On 22 Jun 2022, at 12:43 pm, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Hi all, We're headed to New Zealand this Austral Summer and have a load of projects to get done. I know some of you are from NZ and many of you have been there, so I'm hoping to get some recommendations for the following projects: 1) Strip hull to gelcoat and repaint. It seems that in NZ, soda blasting is less common than sand blasting. I'd also like to get the cast iron ballast stripped and recoated. We also want to raise the waterline. 2) Building a hard top for our A54 After this thread, I'm seriously contemplating having a hard top added. The current favored design is something similar to Soleil Bleu https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/hardtop_for_amel_54/75406304?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&jump=13) Replace motor mounts. Two bolts have broken on our motor mounts so the motor will need to be lifted and the remaining studs drilled out. 4) Acrylic window replacement 5) Solar electrical. We want to add more rigid solar on top of the new hard top. Currently, we have an appointment for haul out at Norsand boatyard and they're mostly an "open boatyard" except for boatbuilding and painting. For projects requiring those tradesmen, we will need to use Norsand. If Norsand is not a good choice, I'm happy to switch boatyards. Thanks in advance! -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah, currently Tahiti, preparing for passage to Fiji http://www.svtengah.com
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